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in reply to elfahor

Distrobox exists, so one is not bound to use a specific distro just because it packages some of the apps/binaries they require.

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in reply to throwawayish

So enjoying immutable fedora with AUR support. Cannot be overstated...
in reply to MalReynolds

Yeah, Arch Linux is beautiful as a container OS. I use it all the time.
in reply to throwawayish

Installed distrobox on NixOS because I was worried being limited to only nixpkgs and have not touched it once lol

Same goes for the windows VM except for the time I needed to run excel macros for work

in reply to flashgnash

Thats been a fear of mine moving to nixos. Glad to know it'll cover most of my software needs.
in reply to flashgnash

Worried about being limited to only the biggest selection of packages available. Does not compute.
in reply to null

I'd never heard of nixpkgs before so thought it was some small niche thing
in reply to flashgnash

I did on my Nix, there was a package in Nixpkgs that was outdated, so I had the opportunity to use distrobox for that, at leqst temporarily until they update the package.
in reply to throwawayish

Am I reading the readme correctly in that I can run apt-get within distrobox on Fedora, and not be limited to dnf packages?
in reply to π•Έπ–”π–˜π–˜

You can install Distrobox on Fedora (or any of the distros that support it), create a Debian distrobox on your Fedora install, and within the Debian distrobox you can use apt-get to install whichever Debian package you like. Or..., you could make an Arch distrobox and even install stuff from the AUR. Or really any package from any of your favorite distros as long as it's supported.
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in reply to throwawayish

Awesome! And it'll be segregated from the base system and from other containers, like toolbox installs are?
in reply to π•Έπ–”π–˜π–˜

And it’ll be segregated from the base system and from other containers, like toolbox installs are?


Exactly. It's even possible to segregate it beyond what Toolbx has been able to do (at least since the last time I checked) in that you can define another folder/directory as your HOME directory within the distrobox.

in reply to throwawayish

Amazing!! Yup. Looks like this is getting installed on my Fedora tonight. Thanks!!
in reply to elfahor

After switching to Linux I wish I knew how to report bugs. I'm a qa tester and I notice so many little things that can be replicated and fixing them would polish the user experience. But there are so many layers I don't know who to report the issue to. My first thought wasto report it to the distro forum and have the more technical people there take a look at the issue then escalate it to the distro maintainers or the actual software devs.

Another thing I wish I knew, was how to get my 2nd hdd to mount automatically. I fucked to my system 4 times(and recovered it) trying and then had to get my sys admin friend to do it for me.

in reply to Fizz

Reporting KDE bugs is still extremely inconvenient.

There should be a 1-click option just to submit an automatically collected data dump, maybe with an optional text field we can write. Just to help providing some data, without all the hassle of creating an account, answering N questions, and following up with answers - sometimes I do care about the issue, most times I don't, but still want to flag that something wrong happened so they're aware of it.

I have the impression that a lot of bugs and random crashes go unnoticed because users don't bother to go through the process of opening a bug report - and they shouldn't need to, nor know how to.

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in reply to Eager Eagle

My first time I was presented with the bug reporter I thought it was cool, but then it said I had to have all the debug symbols installed so it could unwind the call stack. Ok I thought, and searched apt for a little. But I couldn't find them all as there is not a standard naming scheme, so that effort was wasted. I wish their bug reporter would auto download all debug symbols needed.
in reply to Fizz

Bugs? We call those features around here!
in reply to elfahor

Nothing, to be honest. It just worked and I loved it.
in reply to elfahor

That I could put /home on a different drive
That I would never boot into Windows again so having partitions for it was a waste of time
That mounting drives with their uuid as the mount location is insane
in reply to Montagge

That mounting drives with their uuid as the mount location is insane


Why tho? Kernel sometimes can index drives in different order (if you have multiple drives), screwing your mount locations. But UUID is always the same

in reply to SneakyThunder

It's just really long is all. I wish I had given it something shorter but descriptive.
in reply to SneakyThunder

You can give your partitions labels and mount by label. Labels are persistent, like UUIDs, but are also easier to remember and copy.
in reply to GamingChairModel

But why would I even try to remember them? Just look them up. Nowadays I don't even see them since I use Gnome Disk Utility or KDE partition manager to automount them (they both just write to your /etc/fstab)
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in reply to Holzkohlen

But why would I even try to remember them? Just look them up.


For me, I used labels when setting up those volumes manually. Creating a LUKS container, setting up LVM groups and volumes, configuring my bootloader to decrypt the correct encrypted disk, etc. It was just easier to remember which device label was my encrypted container, which was the group, and what the different volumes were. And once the labels were made, well, I just used them.

in reply to elfahor

That even though you are running an LTS version of Ubuntu (e.g. Ubuntu 22.04), some packages that have arrived over a year ago on e.g. 23.10 will never arrive on 22.04.

Example: i3-wm 4.22 or up (https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=i3&searchon=names&suite=jammy§ion=all).

in reply to TurboTurbo

That's the whole point of an LTS distro. And it's why non-rolling distros for desktop OSes make no sense

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in reply to elfahor

It was ~20 years ago so my advice to myself then would be pretty irrelevant now. I messed up my laptop, and my advice then would have been don't start with a laptop (because laptop compatibility was lacking back then compared to desktop, different times).
in reply to Mane25

Laptop compatibility still sucks at times, especially with weird configurations of amd apu and nvidia gpu laptops... or maybe it's just my skill issue.
in reply to Rin

NVIDIA's contempt for the Linux community is legendary. Definitely not a skill issue.
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in reply to Rin

Skill issue

Nah but seriously Nvidia loves to make it difficult and Linux doesn't make it any easier. It's like an unstoppable force meets an unmoving object

in reply to elfahor

I learned to never settle. If you don't like the default workflow of Gnome, try some extensions, or even a different DE. Same with Package Managers. If you don't like the syntax, make an alias. Don't just "deal with it". Windows has brainwashed people into thinking that there is only one way to do a thing.
in reply to Cwilliams

Its why I always find it funny when people complain about changes to the start bar, because surely there isnt a bunch of 3rd party options in existance that change it, and can mimic 7's start bar.

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in reply to Dudewitbow

I have heard that shell replacements are often very buggy on Windows.
in reply to lud

Ive been using classic(then open) shell since moving off of 7 for consistency. for the most part, there haven't been any serious bugs that im aware of. Because the app works between windows versions, start bar for me at least has been pretty much consistent since windows 7 existed, and the stuff id adjust to would be changes in some apps (e.g control panel > settings) that happened overtime.

The problem of some users is they want the vanilla experience to be what they want when there are options to not make something vanilla. Similar to debates on linux distros on whether you want a very specific UI design vs having a distro that is personalizable and customizable based on preference.

in reply to Cwilliams

See I've run into an issue now where I like and am used to GNOME, but I also want to try a tiling WM and doesn't seem like there's really a good way to do that in gnome
in reply to Cwilliams

This is kinda funny to me because I hadn't realized how terrible the Windows workflow was for me until Gnome 3 came out.

Ever since, while I'll use extensions for stuff like alphabetical app grid and Caffeine, I never do anything that changes the Gnome workflow. It's not for everyone, but it absolutely is for me.

in reply to elfahor

I guess the main things would be:

  • As a beginner, don't bother trying to dual boot -- If you still need a Windows box, get some cheap hardware to do your Linux work on. It's too easy to screw up both systems otherwise.
  • Don't get too hung up on a specific distro, the better you are at dealing with different configurations, the better prepared you will be for whatever comes. Once you've gotten one set up, don't be afraid to just try a different one.

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in reply to Aa!

I did the opposite, have always dual booted my laptops and had win on my PC until quite recently now that I'm comfortable enough not to need a safety net anymore
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flashgnash
Isn't it? I'm fairly sure I've flashed a windows iso a couple times from Linux before
in reply to elfahor

Though I enjoy and am currently using Linux Mint, I wish I learned about Wayland sooner. I didn't understand why game performance felt so off with my dual monitor setup for several months. I have since dabbled with an Ubuntu Gnome DE for some gaming, but plan to look into other options when I've organized my data a bit more and establish proper backups.

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in reply to elfahor

I could but I always get a feeling like I'm being monitored constantly. Like imagine being at work and if you don't move your mouse for a few minutes you'd get a warning or something. Or remember using a computer at school where the teacher could literally see the screen of every student, yeah like that.
in reply to Tom

Once you go FOSS, you never go back.
in reply to elfahor

How I was fucked up by trade-based society. Linux is cheap( not free), but is fun and enjoyable. It us fun to interact, support and be brave to act.
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in reply to elfahor

It was free, I could not afford a Sun workstation and Minix had problems, so when this Finnish guy wrote in Usenet that he was working on a free kernel/OS, it was cool!
in reply to PseudoSpock

The biggest bonus to the democratic world stems from just one individual. And the rest of the world believing in his idea.

So never say that just you cannot make a difference in this world.

Because you can!

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in reply to Papamousse

386BSD was a thing back then too, but there was the AT&T lawsuit that scared everyone away. That gave Linux an opportunity.
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It's a better foot-gun, that's for sure
in reply to elfahor

  • tab completion in bash
  • vim
  • zfs
  • git (though it didn't exist then)
in reply to supert

I wouldn't use ZFS. Too risky. If a new kernel comes along and ZFS fails to build or something, my system will be unbootable.

Btrfs scratches my copy-on-write/checksum/integrated RAID itch well enough anyway.

in reply to argv_minus_one

Nix and ubuntu have in kernel support. Void's module build system also prevents this situation. I use nix and void, so have never faced this problem.
in reply to supert

I've been fuckin with btrfs so far haven't tried zfs yet. Anything cool compared to btrfs?
in reply to secret301

In contrast to btrfs it doesn't break your data. Everyone learns the hard way not to use btrfs...

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in reply to dmrzl

Not breaking your data, that is a pretty cool feature

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in reply to dmrzl

Btrfs was the best filesystem I had used up until it corrupted my data.

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in reply to secret301

I gave up on btrfs when Icouldn't recover from a full disk situation (years ago, may be better nwo). But zfs tooling is so good, reliable and intuitive, I'd not want to switch anyway.
in reply to elfahor

That everything you need will work out of the box and you wouldn't boot into windows for 2 months. Would have done a full installing instead of dual-booting. Windows did have a matrix backup I needed though.

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in reply to elfahor

That wine and proton are pieces of poo that i should have never bothered with, countless hours of diddling for next to no result

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in reply to Mandy

Really? They always worked very well for me, with a bit of fiddling around
in reply to elfahor

i have no idea how, why or what is wrong
it always feels like russian roulette but with 5 chambers filled
im honestly envious to constantly hear hwo great proton and stuff is
but for me it works like 1 out of 5 times, distro doesnt matter, all the results are the same

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in reply to mranachi

my goodness what an idea! Why didnt i think of that!

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in reply to Mandy

Lol, so defensive.

So the games not running is a problem unique to your system then

in reply to mranachi

thats the furthest from being defensive, more like aggressive against a piece of shit piece of software, but whatever dude

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in reply to Mandy

The people trying to help you that you're being so rude to are not the software you're upset with. You shouldn't be taking it out on others; especially not people being kind to you and just trying to help you. (Extra especially considering Beehaw's whole thing is to 'bee nice!')
in reply to Zoop

(something is wrong with the replies, it shows me yours two times so idk whats happening right now, i also replied to the wrong thing just now)
i dont see much kindness here, just something i have heard way too much about (not like anybody here knows), but ill stand by the point of the post, if id known the pain going through trying to make things work (and often failing) id have never bothered
in reply to Mandy

Sure.

What i don't follow is why you're having this experience, when for the average user is click to install and play out if the box for many many games.

If it's not the game, because you've checked protondb, and it's not the software, because you've installed multiple distros i feel like you've either got some super unique hardware challenge or you're making a unlikely mistake. Heaven forbid people ask you if you've done things that are obvious, we're just trying to help. Nothing sucks more than sinking time into getting a game to work for it to fail.

Regardless, based on highly emotional responses to many posts my guess is that you're the root cause of your own problems.

in reply to Mandy

You are quite the cocky jerk for not getting software to run that complete noobs are using on their Steam Deck. I'd be more ashamed than anything in your shoes.

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in reply to Holzkohlen

jerk? sure (cause i have heard that "advice just as often as things havent worked, to me its about the same as "have you tried turning it off and on again?", could i have been nicer about it? sure but at this point im so over it) but cocky? i know a dumb bitch and run of the mill advise, while good intentioned doesn’t make it helpful, granted i also havent shared more than it just not working (which is really all there is to it)
in reply to Mandy

I used to have this problem but not since the Steam Deck is out.

Before, I was always frustrated fiddling with Lutris, winetricks, etc. But now it's only been plug and play for me, just let Steam take care of it. Zero compatibility issues. In fact, recently I've had more issues with native games than Proton.

in reply to wim

i have a pc, im not about to buy a console again any time soon
especially when its a handheld that isnt exactly suited for anything than games that need a controller
in reply to Mandy

I'm not talking about buying a Steam Deck, I'm talking about the effect it has had on Linux gaming in general.

I mostly play on a laptop with a Radeon GPU and it's been absolutely issue free gaming wise.

in reply to wim

That or Bottles, that also takes care of a lot of the fiddly stuff.
in reply to elfahor

Trying not to make it windows.

There's a lot of conveniences that Windows comes default with.

When I switched to Linux, my immediate goal was to find alternatives for EVERYTHING. That lead to being disappointed by a lot.

Understanding Linux and also recognizing there's a lot of shit I don't need (that windows was giving me for the sake of VALUE) was a game changer.

in reply to Potatos_are_not_friends

Understanding Linux and also recognizing there's a lot of shit I don't need (that windows was giving me for the sake of VALUE) was a game changer.


This 100%! After using Linux for the past few years I've realized a lot of the crap windows has by default is stuffed in there to have something to market.

in reply to Potatos_are_not_friends

Nowadays there's a lot of good alternatives for everything, including windows hello for any password prompt
Unknown parent

Used to use gedit, the found nano and it was awesome. Then found Vim... I RAN back to nano haha

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ExLisper
I vaguely remember pressing Alt+F4 while trying to close vim in a terminal once. It did switch to me login prompt so I thought it worked.
in reply to elfahor

It was so long ago there was nothing to know, really. Most pages looked fine in links, you had irssi for your social networks, mplayer for your movies (still great), mutt for email, vim for programming... It kind of just worked.
in reply to ExLisper

That's pretty much where I've landed. Except I use firefox.
in reply to supert

I still use mplayer but now it's neovim will lots of plugins. Modern IDEs are much different today. Mutt is hard to use in the time of HTML emials. I also use lots of graphical apps like signal, Spotify, steam or libre office that didn't exist 20 years ago. I think getting it all to work is a bit more complicated now. Maybe I just use computer for a lot more things.
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rotopenguin

By the time you've dressed out an Rpi to be halfway usable, you've spent about as much as a decent NUC. And all you have to show for it is a slow-as-mud sd card, hardly any video acceleration, a USB stack that only crashes sometimes, a busy OOM killer, and no software.

Get an N95 based nuc. A Beelink with 8/256 runs about $150, and it just works. (Well, you might need pcie_aspm=off).

in reply to warmaster

On Windows, I often simply took out the USB drive without "safely removing" it. The data was there 99% of the time. On Linux, if I'm not mistaken, unmounting the drive before disconnecting is what actually writes data to it.
in reply to guillermohs9

Really? I've literally never done this but I suppose I really only use my USB for dd'ing a distro.
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in reply to guillermohs9

It's pretty important on Windows too, though. Always β€œeject” or β€œsafely remove hardware” before unplugging!
in reply to argv_minus_one

Not in Windows 10/11. You can still "eject" if it makes you feel better, but it's basically redundant. They reworked the support for removable media so they are always ready to remove except during active read/write operations.
in reply to its_pizza

Read/write operations can happen in the background at any moment as long as the drive is mounted, so that's not terribly comforting.

Anyway, Windows has always avoided deferring writes on removable media, for as long as it's been capable of deferring writes at all. That's not new in Windows 10.

Linux has a mount option, sync, to do the same thing. Dunno if any desktop environments actually use it, but they could. Besides being slower, though, it has the downside of causing more write operations (since they can't be batched together into fewer, larger writes), so flash drives will wear out faster. I imagine Windows' behavior has the same problem, although with Windows users accustomed to pulling out their drives without unmounting, I suppose that's the lesser of two evils.

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Mandy

i stopped counting how often i got the useless "must be your hardware or your config!!!", cant be that the software steam is trying to peddle and the software its based on are fundamentally broken, and when something goes wrong you might as well shoot yourself cause youd be hard pressed to find any reasonable help

no, my hardware is fine, it works perfectly and doesnt have any issues anywhere else

no, my config is fine, cause im not stupid enough to go anywhere near any kind of config that could break anything, i dont touch that stuff, cause there is no reason

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in reply to elfahor

Nothing of note, really. The openness of the whole system meant that I could learn whatever I needed to know as the need arose.

I started when I was a kid, though. I had plenty of time to explore and discover. It'd be harder as an adult in a hurry.

in reply to iawia

And 20 more years there will still be people switching
in reply to iawia

People who wanted Linux on the desktop to be so user-friendly their grandma could use it are now grandparents.
in reply to elfahor

That just like windows and Mac if it doesn't support that platform prepare for headaches. Unlike windows and Mac you can get things that aren't supposed to run on Linux to run thanks to great tools like wine, proton, and even waydroid. But if you wanna avoid headaches just stick with what's supported for the most part.
in reply to elfahor

There isn't a hardware panel nor a proper task manager nor a GUI registery editor.

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in reply to mtchristo

I disagree on the task manager. I like the KDE Plasma monitor application for instance. Very convenient way to sigterm or sigkill.
in reply to Holzkohlen

Agreed, and if you're not on KDE then htop will do just fine.
in reply to mtchristo

There is no registry in Linux so there can't be a registry editor.

Hardware panels and task managers do exist (and they come in more windows-like distros), they're just different to Windows ones. I do concede that hardware management in Windows is much easier.

Task manager for Windows absolutely blows though. It doesn't show real data, just estimates that sometimes are wildly wrong.

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in reply to elfahor

Proper drive mounting process. When I finally learned, it was a life changer.
in reply to MXX53

Please explain. You make me wonder if I'm doing it wrong.
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guillermohs9
Yeah, but you just describe 2 features on specific apps that don't need to be enabled by default.
in reply to π•Έπ–”π–˜π–˜

Try micro.

It's much better and quite easy if not easier to use than nano.
It should really be the default simple editor.

in reply to elfahor

The 1:1 windows:Linux replacement is just a means to keep you on Windows. Once you learn Linux, you'll come to understand how much of a farce it is and how it's designed to keep you away
in reply to eldavi

Linux is a farce and designed to keep you away? Could you elaborate?

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in reply to Holzkohlen

No, i think he means the idea that Linux is supposed to substitute Windows 1:1
in reply to elfahor

I wish I'd known how much of a pain in the ass having an NVIDIA card would be. I would have gotten a different computer.
in reply to EponymousBosh

Same. I bought my GPU at like 170% of its MSRP. I regret it now, should have went the amd way
in reply to elfahor

When you're just trying to get work done: pick a solid, well-tested high-profile distribution like Fedora, Pop!_OS, or Debian (or Ubuntu). Don't look for the most beautiful, or most up-to-date, or most light-weight (e.g. low CPU usage, RAM, etc.). Don't distro hop just to see what you're missing.

Of course, do those things if you want to mess around, have fun, or learn! But not when you're trying to get work done.

in reply to canadaduane

When you're just trying to get work done: pick Windows.
in reply to SRo

I've gone Arch for this year's linux adventure. It has been the most stable I've ever tried.
in reply to canadaduane

Is Pop!_OS really that popular? I started using Linux about 10 years ago and it wasn't around then, so I never tried it in my distro hopping days. I see it's developed by System76 so I can see why you'd choose it on their hardware, but is there any point doing that on other hardware?
in reply to AlpacaChariot

Idk, it seems to be picking up steam. It's what I use unless I'm trying to use something super lightweight.

For me it has the stability of Ubuntu without having to use Ubuntu.

Haven't tried Debian yet though.

in reply to AlpacaChariot

Snaps are basically Ubuntu's private app store, and flatpaks (the supported method of app distribution by almost every other distro) are not supported; there's no tiling WM built-in for large monitors; the kernel is not kept up to date (i.e. improved hardware coverage and support); some things like streaming with OBS studio and Steam don't work out of the box (this may have changed, but it was the case for me about a year ago).
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in reply to canadaduane

Interesting, thanks. I had a feeling snaps would be in the list!
in reply to AlpacaChariot

There's a small amount of telemetry going on.

Also, Pop_OS makes running an Nvidia GPU less painful.

in reply to AlpacaChariot

The System76 engineers are culturally very aligned with the core values of freedom of choice, customization, etc. They build software with the larger ecosystem in mind, and in fact, I've never seen them build something only for their own hardware (even things that could have been just for their own hardware, like the system76 power management system, has extensibility built in).

That said, they also balance this freedom with a set of "opinionated" good choices that they test and support. If you care a lot about stability, it's easy to go along with the "happy path" and get a solid, up-to-date system delivered frequently. Every time they upgrade new features or kernel, they go through a systematic quality assurance process on multiple machines--including machines not of their own brand. (I've contributed software/PRs to their codebase, and they've always sent it through a code review and QA process).

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in reply to elfahor

I wish I'd known how to use node-based compositors like Natron to produce VFX so I don't have to keep going back to macOS to use After Effects.
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nik0
I mean really if you don't like your current DE, you can always just switch within your own distro. For example, you can switch from cinnamon to gnome for mint.
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xapr [he/him]
Just read this book:
in reply to elfahor

Always put your filesystems in an LVM volume (and in general, partition disks with LVM rather than partition tables)! You never know when you might need to combine multiple disks, make a snapshot, add redundancy, or transfer to another disk without unmounting. But it's very difficult to format a block device as LVM once you can't erase its contents.

Make your /boot partition at least 500MiB.

Leave at least 1GiB of free space at the beginning of every disk. You never know when you might need to add EFI and boot partitions to that disk. And again, it's very difficult to do after the fact.

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in reply to elfahor

Gnome is better on 1920 than in 1366. XFCE is better on 1366...

And Ubuntu sucks..

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Holzkohlen
Just install BIOS updates from within the BIOS like a normal person.

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Swarfega
I remember, back in the day, I asked on IRC how to edit a file in Linux. Someone said vi. Little did I know that in chat someone said, the next question is how do I quit. I asked that exact question. Yes chat erupted.
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Slotos

Either by making it segfault or you don’t.

I got a whole software developer career going out of my attempts to exit vim.

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mub
I like gnome but it doesn't support variable refresh rate (freesync). But I've made KDE look quite nice and works ok. It bring Linux there is almost always an option for your needs
in reply to elfahor

I've learnt how to use Linux in preparation for the day when Windows finally goes to far.

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in reply to elfahor

If you switch to Linux you'll probably have to learn at some point to use the terminal but with some recent developments (new fonts, ligatures etc..) console applications evolved to be more and more ... Graphical! And this is awesome: check out btop, neovim/nvchad, lsd etc...
in reply to π•Έπ–”π–˜π–˜

I hear you 😁. For whatever reason I stuck with the Vim tutorial and did it a few times over the years. Now I'm using the IdeaVIM extension in IntelliJ - that mode system is just sooo powerful. It has a horrible learning curve, yes, but if you manage to stick with it, it pays huge dividends. I probably know, like, 18% of all commands, and it completely changed how I edit files (mostly for coding, but also text).
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in reply to moormaan

Alright alright. You win haha seriously, you've convinced me to give vim another chance.
in reply to elfahor

Don't use linux with the expectation that it works like windows.
If you want to use linux, be open to new ways of doing things, and you will likely have a great time, try the old methods and you will run into impassable walls.
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garam

Wow. Redmond theme.. πŸ˜‚

KDE seems hard for me. Personal Preference, it's hard to learn the flow, even it's near Windows Like Experience πŸ˜”

in reply to elfahor

Ctrl + R in the terminal. I never used it until I got a job using Linux, now it's probably my most used command at work and at home.
in reply to elfahor

how cool and sexy and irrestible i became

to the right people \^^

in reply to π•Έπ–”π–˜π–˜

Use vimtutor. It comes with vim and teaches you to the basic vim commands from within vim.

And don't worry about exiting vim, that's lesson 1.2 :)

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in reply to JaxNakamura

Hahaha!!! I actually know how to exit Vim. Had to learn it when setting up a server config on a server that only had Vim installed. Once set up, nano got installed.

This vimtutor looks pretty awesome, and I can't wait to get learning on it. In all honesty, vim does looks super helpful. It's just that I usually use text editors to quickly setup configs, when gui won't do or I'm just done with gui for the moment. During those times, my patience is usually low, and searching how to save or quit or open or do any other basic functionality, reduces that patience further. But vimtutor makes it a point to learn vim when I'm not trying to get in, get it done, and get out. This may work for me. I may actually learn vim!

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