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NDP tables bill to repeal section 107 of labour code


The full text of section 107 says that the federal minister responsible for labour may “do such things as to the Minister seem likely to maintain or secure industrial peace and to promote conditions favourable to the settlement of industrial disputes or differences and to those ends the Minister may refer any question to the Board or direct the Board to do such things as the Minister deems necessary.”

Since June 2024, section 107 has been invoked eight times to interfere with bargaining or end strikes, including those by postal workers, flight attendants and railway workers.

“When big corporations complain, the government caves,” Gazan said while tabling the bill on Monday. “This is a direct violation of workers’ rights, the right to strike and the right to free collective bargaining. These rights were won through generations of struggle and sacrifice, yet government after government violates the rights of workers whenever it is politically convenient.”

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CanadaPlus
Unions have pretty limited purview, so I'm not sure I could ever describe them as "corrupt with power". At worst they become stuck in the old way of doing things, which this seems like an example of.
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In practice, very little. People who are in unions tend to be a lot of other things first. Historically unions have endorsed the NDP, but the NDP never got close to actual federal power.

They can stop work. That's close to the only thing they can do, and they usually don't want to.

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patatas
Don't you love it when people just say stuff, like completely made up stuff that is the opposite of how things work in reality
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CanadaPlus
Okay, it's just that the argument you wrote out there has implications far beyond the mail.
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CanadaPlus
So are you one of those people that want no taxes or government? Like, sure, mail delivery isn't a human right, but neither are things we all agree someone should care for, like a transportation network of any kind.
in reply to CanadaPlus

Besides, it would be simple enough to just mandate that 'last-mile' delivery is the exclusive right of Canada Post, which would have the effect of:

  • not letting companies pick and choose the profitable routes while handing off deliveries that are money-losing to CanPost;
  • guaranteeing good wages, benefits, and working conditions for all delivery workers.
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in reply to patatas

I'm not sure I'd call full nationalisation of an industry "simple", especially when it steps on American toes that much. But I guess yes, it is an option.
in reply to CanadaPlus

Sure, maybe not 'simple', but it wouldn't be nationalising the entire shipping industry either - just the final leg of delivery
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moody

Before calling Canada Post's union corrupt, have you ever looked at what their demands are? Because pretty much everything they're asking for is super reasonable, and Canada Post refuses to budge because they know that they're considered an essential service and the government will eventually step in to force a return to work. They've gotten no concessions in last year's strike or since then.

Never mind the fact that Canada Post is a service by definition and shouldn't be driven by profits.

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Fredthefishlord
"things that are human right" are not the only services the government should provide
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Fredthefishlord
People should have an option to get official government notices, and other important notices from companies through a service that is not owned by capitalism. Sounds like it isn't for free if everyone is paying for it lol
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Anyone blaming unions are a fool. Sure you can keep pointing at the bad unions of this and that with abusive power. The overall calculus of it all is that it is good for the worker and good for the economy. The boomer middle class got to where it was is because of unions. Full stop.

Section 107 when used should trigger something like dissolving the C-suite and the board if government intervention is needed to resolve the dispute. After all, they are asking the government to do THEIR jobs because they made it worse due to THEIR poor management. But hey, people love blaming unions and the worker drone below trying to do the jobs they were hired for right? Right?

There will be people saying about "free market" - don't kid yourself - in Canada and many countries, there's no such thing. Government subsidies, incentives, tax credits etc all go against that concept. I'm not for a full blown "free market". That would be disastrous all around in this current reality.

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FapMaster69
Do you have a source for the percentage of boomers (not) in unions?
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Fredthefishlord
Did you not read my comment?
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Red Whacker

Does that show the percentage of boomers though.

My cousin who is 22 years old just joined a Union. Age of union does not reflect on boomer percentage.

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DoPeopleLookHere

Nice whataboutism......

Says nothing about what's actually tabled here.....

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DoPeopleLookHere

First off, Canada Post is a service not a busisnes. Do we expect direct profits from the trans Canada highway?

Also, bill C58 still isn't the topic at hand.

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petrol_sniff_king

I think someone's jealous.

you do not require mail EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK


Counter point: mail is fun.

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twopi

Show your math. Otherwise doing self assigned math on wikipedia numbers doesn't cut it. Show us the math and numbers and why those math and numbers.

Three important points here.

  1. Union membership never surpassed 40% but the residual effects may still effect culture and policy after peak membership.
  2. Is it 20% of population or workers?
  3. Women entered the workplace during this time may skew results/percentages.

What's undeniably true is that union membership increases as one gets closer to the depression era (both before and after) and that income share of the owners of companies and high earners is inversely correlated to union membership.

But yeah the union forcing unproductive/unnecessary work is wrong.

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All in all I'm of the belief that Canada Post should be converted into a worker co-op.

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twopi

The last statement I made is ambiguous.

Statement:

But yeah the union forcing unproductive/unnecessary work is wrong.


I was trying to say that it is wrong for unions to force unproductive/unnecessary work. Not that the statement "union[s] forcing unproductive/unnecessary work" is itself wrong.

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in reply to FapMaster69

He never provided a source of boomers not in unions.

When I asked to provide union membership data when doing "math" on Wikipedia he responded with this:

lemmy.ca/post/53158288/1944658…


I responded to his comment with actual sources here (US data by the way):

lemmy.ca/post/53158288/1944791…
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dubyakay
by their own actions, they prove that mail is not essential as it is not as important as their money/ benefits package.

that was a LOT of power and they seriously damaged the canadian economy right before things went from bad to even worse.


Keep going, you are almost there.

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acargitz
Keep licking employer boot. I'm sure they will reward your loyalty. Maybe one day you'll get to hold the whip too
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twopi
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twopi

I encourage you to put this chain through Chat GPT and ask it to give you real resources and go back and forth on it.

I will not be continuing this conversation.

Since it your close to it any way, a bid you a dieu.

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