Who's side are we supposed to be on for this one? I tend to default to supporting unions, but I've been hearing about Canada Post being way over budget.
Here's how Amazon is using its dominant market position to eat away at Canada Post:
Amazon requires online sellers to list their products on Amazon at whatever their lowest online price is (meaning, if I have my own website and I list on Amazon, I cannot charge more on Amazon or I will be breaking their Terms Of Service)
But! Amazon subsidises their shipping costs by charging the seller high fees. Sellers either have to not be on Amazon, or raise prices everywhere they sell online.
At Amazon's warehouses and distribution centres, the working conditions are famously horrific, and when workers actually manage to form unions, Amazon simply shuts down those warehouses, as they did in Quebec. They're similarly abusive toward delivery workers.
So, Amazon is not only squeezing sellers, they are also undermining working conditions and pay for all warehouse & delivery workers.
And Canada Post is being told by the govwrnment to "compete" against this with their hands tied by their service mandate:
I think pretty much everyone would agree that
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Here's how Amazon is using its dominant market position to eat away at Canada Post:
Amazon requires online sellers to list their products on Amazon at whatever their lowest online price is (meaning, if I have my own website and I list on Amazon, I cannot charge more on Amazon or I will be breaking their Terms Of Service)
But! Amazon subsidises their shipping costs by charging the seller high fees. Sellers either have to not be on Amazon, or raise prices everywhere they sell online.
At Amazon's warehouses and distribution centres, the working conditions are famously horrific, and when workers actually manage to form unions, Amazon simply shuts down those warehouses, as they did in Quebec. They're similarly abusive toward delivery workers.
So, Amazon is not only squeezing sellers, they are also undermining working conditions and pay for all warehouse & delivery workers.
And Canada Post is being told by the govwrnment to "compete" against this with their hands tied by their service mandate:
I think pretty much everyone would agree that t's a good thing that Canada Post has a mandate to deliver to every Canadian address, and that it does so equitably - e.g., letter mail costs the same amount of money to send across the country as it does to send across town.
(This is fantastic for our overall economy, and keeps the playing field level no matter where in Canada you are selling or buying products from.)
It's a similar thing with the individual delivery routes themselves: delivering to a single apartment complex with 1000s of people in it is going to be way more efficient than driving all around a suburban neighbourhood, but Canada Post does not treat these things differently in terms of pricing.
(But, by the way, it's still way more efficient for one delivery person to walk/drive to each door than to have every resident walk to a community post box!)
All of this means that some portion of deliveries are going to be profitable, and some portion are going to be unprofitable.
Guess which ones Amazon chooses to deliver to? And guess which ones it dumps on Canada Post?
That's right - Amazon doesn't have a mandate to deliver to all of Canada. So they skim off the profitable routes, and effectively have their operations subsidised with public money when they dump the unprofitable deliveries onto Canada Post.
That's why we should make it so ALL last-mile deliveries must be done by Canada Post workers.
Canada post is a public service, its supposed to be over budget. That's like saying the firemen aren't making enough money grifting people with fire putting out fees every time they get a call.
I was hoping to get more information on the historical budgets, and interesting found that Canada post has their annual reports available to be downloaded and viewed on their website
However, from 2004 to 2017 you can get really detailed reports such as
And more
But starting 2018 and onwards it only shows bullshit paragraphs about the president's message and select pieces of information, not raw data, which is also the year they supposedly started to loss money instead of be profitable.
I don't like how non-transparent that seems. I was also trying to find what the budget was historically and when or if it has been raised to keep up with inflation but it's too early to do that on my phone
ITT: people more interested in getting their shit than they are in solidarity.
I guess Canada Post is correct to relax the strike to appease people like that, but I'm disappointed that they feel the need to. Y'all need to suck it up and attribute the blame where it belongs: on the government for failing to capitulate to the workers' demands.
It’s not Canada Post relaxing the strike, it’s CUPW (the postal workers union). The reason they’re doing this (IMO) is that they don’t want to cause a huge mail backlog going into the holiday season. They are afraid of turning the public against them.
A billion+ dollars in the red every coming year and potentially dropping the ball at Christmas? I can already hear the Conservatives foaming at the mouth for more privatization of the public sector.
There are public services that should benefit them and them only. These should be free. (Roads seem to be the most important among conservatives in my neck of the woods)
Public services that don't serve them specifically should be done away with. (Public healthcare, education, transport)
Anything else seems to them to be a waste of "my money".
They are the most selfish, ignorant buffoons imaginable. They say they just want to be left alone, yet they barge into public forums and bitch all the time.
It's like "well fine, why are you even here to begin with if you don't want to interact with other people? Just fuck off and live your own life far away from the rest of us. We have a society to run here."
cadekat
in reply to SamuelRJankis • • •patatas
in reply to cadekat • • •Here's how Amazon is using its dominant market position to eat away at Canada Post:
Amazon requires online sellers to list their products on Amazon at whatever their lowest online price is (meaning, if I have my own website and I list on Amazon, I cannot charge more on Amazon or I will be breaking their Terms Of Service)
But! Amazon subsidises their shipping costs by charging the seller high fees. Sellers either have to not be on Amazon, or raise prices everywhere they sell online.
At Amazon's warehouses and distribution centres, the working conditions are famously horrific, and when workers actually manage to form unions, Amazon simply shuts down those warehouses, as they did in Quebec. They're similarly abusive toward delivery workers.
So, Amazon is not only squeezing sellers, they are also undermining working conditions and pay for all warehouse & delivery workers.
And Canada Post is being told by the govwrnment to "compete" against this with their hands tied by their service mandate:
I think pretty much everyone would agree that
... show moreHere's how Amazon is using its dominant market position to eat away at Canada Post:
Amazon requires online sellers to list their products on Amazon at whatever their lowest online price is (meaning, if I have my own website and I list on Amazon, I cannot charge more on Amazon or I will be breaking their Terms Of Service)
But! Amazon subsidises their shipping costs by charging the seller high fees. Sellers either have to not be on Amazon, or raise prices everywhere they sell online.
At Amazon's warehouses and distribution centres, the working conditions are famously horrific, and when workers actually manage to form unions, Amazon simply shuts down those warehouses, as they did in Quebec. They're similarly abusive toward delivery workers.
So, Amazon is not only squeezing sellers, they are also undermining working conditions and pay for all warehouse & delivery workers.
And Canada Post is being told by the govwrnment to "compete" against this with their hands tied by their service mandate:
I think pretty much everyone would agree that t's a good thing that Canada Post has a mandate to deliver to every Canadian address, and that it does so equitably - e.g., letter mail costs the same amount of money to send across the country as it does to send across town.
(This is fantastic for our overall economy, and keeps the playing field level no matter where in Canada you are selling or buying products from.)
It's a similar thing with the individual delivery routes themselves: delivering to a single apartment complex with 1000s of people in it is going to be way more efficient than driving all around a suburban neighbourhood, but Canada Post does not treat these things differently in terms of pricing.
(But, by the way, it's still way more efficient for one delivery person to walk/drive to each door than to have every resident walk to a community post box!)
All of this means that some portion of deliveries are going to be profitable, and some portion are going to be unprofitable.
Guess which ones Amazon chooses to deliver to? And guess which ones it dumps on Canada Post?
That's right - Amazon doesn't have a mandate to deliver to all of Canada. So they skim off the profitable routes, and effectively have their operations subsidised with public money when they dump the unprofitable deliveries onto Canada Post.
That's why we should make it so ALL last-mile deliveries must be done by Canada Post workers.
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in reply to Knoxvomica • • •I was hoping to get more information on the historical budgets, and interesting found that Canada post has their annual reports available to be downloaded and viewed on their website
However, from 2004 to 2017 you can get really detailed reports such as
But starting 2018 and onwards it only shows bullshit paragraphs about the president's message and select pieces of information, not raw data, which is also the year they supposedly started to loss money instead of be profitable.
I don't like how non-transparent that seems. I was also trying to find what the budget was historically and when or if it has been raised to keep up with inflation but it's too early to do that on my phone
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in reply to SamuelRJankis • • •ITT: people more interested in getting their shit than they are in solidarity.
I guess Canada Post is correct to relax the strike to appease people like that, but I'm disappointed that they feel the need to. Y'all need to suck it up and attribute the blame where it belongs: on the government for failing to capitulate to the workers' demands.
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in reply to snoons • • •Very succinct comment.
Conservatives seem to think one of two things:
There are public services that should benefit them and them only. These should be free.
(Roads seem to be the most important among conservatives in my neck of the woods)
Public services that don't serve them specifically should be done away with.
(Public healthcare, education, transport)
Anything else seems to them to be a waste of "my money".
They are the most selfish, ignorant buffoons imaginable. They say they just want to be left alone, yet they barge into public forums and bitch all the time.
It's like "well fine, why are you even here to begin with if you don't want to interact with other people? Just fuck off and live your own life far away from the rest of us. We have a society to run here."
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