"this is a subject that's near and dear to my heart
no you didn't, you retconning fucks
your decades of anti-governance "free market" "government never functions" propaganda paved the way for the complete authoritarian decimation of labor, consumer, environmental protections"
It feels like I spend half my life arguing either "if we don't keep saying this is wrong it will never change" or "this isn't going to change after time so soon so we need to..."
This includes the arguing with myself. It's so hard some days to have the serenity to keep on believing things can and should change and doing what's possible, while also dealing with the reality of what's here right now. But it is also the only way to live life where I can both survive now and live with myself later.
I think that sort of lazy thinking is present across the generations. Society has always* seemed to be split into those who accept the status quo, those who don't, and those who are prepared to attempt to change society. (*Speaking as a 70 year old)
I don't think these divisions are necessarily driven by class or education, more by life experiences, and maybe to some extent the attitude of parents.
The ones who fight for change need the 'passive' group for support (moral, financial & political). The passive group can influence the 'acceptance' group to change their views, and to take simple action like voting differently. People may slowly move between groups as their circumstances change.
Usonians ‘Americans’ think of FDR’s new deal as more fair, equitable . Actually, from the depression, to Reagan’s election. Although there was a little thing called WWII thrown into the mix, for good or ill.
For inspiration, the British ended the Atlantic Slave Trade. It took a long time and lots of effort—too much of each was required—but it happened in a nation that originally didn't see it as a problem.
I am not sure *how* old these elderly people are but a good portion of elderly people aren't truly aware of "just how it is".
As just a surface example, I bought my home in 1999 for about $140k, and a home just like mine on my street recently sold for over $600k. My parents see this sort of thing on the news and are aware of it and will say things like "it must be hard for young people to buy a home if they are barely making $200k/year eh?" And I am like "oh mum they're lucky to make much more than half that" and they are just mind blown.
My parents were born before WW2 and grew up through the end of the depression and wartime rations so know hardship, but have lived their entire lives through fairly constant progress and prosperity. For older boomers they don't even know that pre war hardship, and comfortably retired they are all quite isolated from the experience of young adults. They cannot conceive of the concept 1st world society has unacceptably declined in recent years.
I am 74, in UK, and my wife and I see that 'house prices have gone up 'lots of percent' and we say "that'll be great for our kids - but it is no good if you need to upsize or move house as those prices will have gone up too, and you will have to pay the silly prices now being demanded" This is my home, not a cash cow!
Sounds like they might be comfortable people and the suffering hasn't reached them yet, maybe?
People have to get fed up, out of patience. High empathy people can get fed up with the suffering of others. Low empathy people have to suffer directly, or see people just like themselves suffering, before they can get fed up.
they sound like someone who understands how difficult it is to tax a powerful person with almost unlimited resources who can pay experts and workers to execute anything while they themselves sit on the beach un-bothered by any of it.
My very comfortably off sister said a while back that she has no problems with people becoming wealthy. I forgot to ask her both whey she said it and why she meant it.
Wealthy people on a planet with BILLIONS in poverty ...
It’s a conundrum because not caring or just accepting or only working on things that I can change is a good way to inner peace and the mental health that I need and maybe that’s why those people are how they are. But boy we need to fight back like hell, too.
hit 'em with history? anyone within spitting distance of "elderly" was around for the reagan tax cuts (from 70% to 50%). if they're actually oldies, then they were around for kennedy/johnson cutting rates from 90% to 70%.
i believe many want to fight but if you have children and loved one it is hard to fight as there is high chance to die. Look what happened in Minnesota. I am not sure if USA is a democracy anymore.
Discord faces backlash over age checks after data breach exposed 70,000 IDs Discord to block adult content unless users verify ages with selfies or IDs. arstechnica.com/tech-policy/20…
Yes but the point is to deny community and support to queer and trans kids while continuing to protect and support the anonymous trolls talking kids into suicide online.
If compelled by law to age-verify in some jurisdictions, then why can't a site set one bit saying user Joe123 is a verified adult after evidence is provided, and then delete the uploaded information after a very short period? The people promoting these laws claim that the intent is to protect kids, not to eliminate all anonymity, so if they are telling the truth this should be ok.
Beefnoodle Soup-Restaurant in meiner Hood. Die haben ne Nudel-Schneidemaschine, die wie ein Roboter aus nem 50er Jahre Sci-Fi aussieht. Die Kids lieben es.
Moin #Fediverse und euch einen gesunden Start in die neue Woche. Alles wird gut!
Interesting how those ‘drug boats’ off Venezuela suddenly disappear the moment the cameras move on. Almost like the migrant caravans that magically vanished after Election Day in Donald Trump’s first term.
"Jimmy Lai, who has been jailed for 20 years, always said he owed Hong Kong, a city that had given him "everything". The Hong Kong billionaire tested China's limits. It cost him his freedom"
nice. Thanks for sharing. It might be an example of “form follows function” allowing this creative design. I’ve been looking at a lot of examples over the last year and trying to think of new applications (and how to apply it to GUI).
stux⚡️
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •Don't get me wrong, I think I know how reality works
It's not gonna change within a year or maybe 50..
But at some point people have to start and fight back
If we keep repeating "It's just how it is" shit will NEVER change
I refuse to accept shit as is, otherwise what's the point of everything
Michael Newton
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •It feels like I spend half my life arguing either "if we don't keep saying this is wrong it will never change" or "this isn't going to change after time so soon so we need to..."
This includes the arguing with myself. It's so hard some days to have the serenity to keep on believing things can and should change and doing what's possible, while also dealing with the reality of what's here right now. But it is also the only way to live life where I can both survive now and live with myself later.
Mike 🇬🇧 🇪🇺
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •I think that sort of lazy thinking is present across the generations.
Society has always* seemed to be split into those who accept the status quo, those who don't, and those who are prepared to attempt to change society.
(*Speaking as a 70 year old)
I don't think these divisions are necessarily driven by class or education, more by life experiences, and maybe to some extent the attitude of parents.
The ones who fight for change need the 'passive' group for support (moral, financial & political). The passive group can influence the 'acceptance' group to change their views, and to take simple action like voting differently.
People may slowly move between groups as their circumstances change.
Just my theory.
Hold the faith!
Chancerubbage
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •Paul Chernoff
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •stux⚡️
in reply to Paul Chernoff • • •@paulc Someone has to stand up at some point
If it's popular or not, it shouldn't matter
stux⚡️
Unknown parent • • •@mloxton I had such an idea but still..
The point of acceptance if the same as giving up I guess?
Mark Shane Hayden
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •I am not sure *how* old these elderly people are but a good portion of elderly people aren't truly aware of "just how it is".
As just a surface example, I bought my home in 1999 for about $140k, and a home just like mine on my street recently sold for over $600k. My parents see this sort of thing on the news and are aware of it and will say things like "it must be hard for young people to buy a home if they are barely making $200k/year eh?" And I am like "oh mum they're lucky to make much more than half that" and they are just mind blown.
My parents were born before WW2 and grew up through the end of the depression and wartime rations so know hardship, but have lived their entire lives through fairly constant progress and prosperity. For older boomers they don't even know that pre war hardship, and comfortably retired they are all quite isolated from the experience of young adults. They cannot conceive of the concept 1st world society has unacceptably declined in recent years.
john lomax
in reply to stux⚡️ • •This is my home, not a cash cow!
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stux⚡️
in reply to john lomax • • •@jayflo I remeber my parents build a house a year before i was born, it was a pretty huge house and i estimate under half a million at the time
Currently it's almost 3 times that
(they dont own it anymore)
A house we recently wanted to rent was on market for 450K and it was a relative simple house
We don't stand a chance
Coach Spore Diesel
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •Sounds like they might be comfortable people and the suffering hasn't reached them yet, maybe?
People have to get fed up, out of patience. High empathy people can get fed up with the suffering of others. Low empathy people have to suffer directly, or see people just like themselves suffering, before they can get fed up.
Robert kirkum
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •Ingonymous
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •Maybe they feel powerless. Maybe they are lazy.
Hard to say.
But yes, it's a very common phenomenon.
Richard Quinn
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •Neil Moffatt
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •My very comfortably off sister said a while back that she has no problems with people becoming wealthy. I forgot to ask her both whey she said it and why she meant it.
Wealthy people on a planet with BILLIONS in poverty ...
Kevin Ashworth
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •Piglet
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •hit 'em with history? anyone within spitting distance of "elderly" was around for the reagan tax cuts (from 70% to 50%). if they're actually oldies, then they were around for kennedy/johnson cutting rates from 90% to 70%.
so yeah, no, that's not how it has to be.
Driftya
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •Droid Boy
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