Rather surprised to continually learn from online headlines that Charlie Kirk was killed ", age 31."
How many headline writers found this noteworthy? And how many of them quoted, in the headlines they crafted, their ages at death of innumerable schoolchildren murdered in mass shootings at U.S. schools - human sacrifices on the altar of the #NRA's shibboleth, the #2A?
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RIP Melissa and Mark Hortman, assassinated on June 14, along with their beloved dog Gilbert.
Gilbert was trained to be a service dog but was let go from the program because he was “too friendly.”
Where was the outrage then? Were was the outrage for the Minneapolis shooting? Were was the outrage for the Colorado shooting? Why is Charlie Kirk's murder a "political assassination" but no one is saying that about the Hortmans?
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Maybe it has something to do with that weird secret that Trump and Epstein had?
We all thought it had to do with his some kid they raped together or something but really they had devised a plan to make society decide some half of it (those inclined to tolerate pedophilia) could be killed off by the other half but not visa-versa. This way the pedophiles and rapists among them would be safer.
Hard-right Christians do tend to support child marriage.
Why is Charlie Kirk's murder a "political assassination" but no one is saying that about the Hortmans?
We all know the answer...don't we?
Well said!
I may add I personally have no sympathy for violence, but Kirk got a taste of his own medicine.
Critics say the president is engaging in selective patriotism.The New Republic
I'm trying to make my own Kombucha.
This is the second attempt as the first was trying to make my own scoby, and it didn't work out!
I then bought a proper scoby and have just started the process, hopefully in a week or so I will have my first batch, 🤞!
Us Against Them Man
Staunch defender
of the 2nd Amendment
takes an ironic bullet to the head
All hope now #exhausted and dead
as the mob goes ballistic
demanding revenge
The spark is ignited
as the payback pretext is set
Blame is quickly fixed
The Thems gonna pay
The tanks roll in
Retribution is swift
The opposition is erased
like a blemish stain
on the Body Politic
My country tis of thee
Sour swirl of anarchy
Soon they will be coming for me
for a post I wrote in 2003
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Normal people don't know who Charlie Kirk is. My mom, dad, husband, neighbor are very confused why it's such a big deal.
Which is good to remember. He's never done anything notable. Didn't run for office, didn't break a big story, didn't write an important book.
So, for a lot of people this is all very confusing.
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Most people find politics very boring and obnoxious.
To some degree this can be by design, to keep people from engaging.
IDK I don't think this is a big deal. Or rather it's exactly the same size deal as all of the other shootings. Which just keep coming.
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Was he in the army? This is nonsense.
I knew about him because my 14yr old Australian child told me about him.
My impression is because Kirk was relatively young (31), he was more of a known entity to younger people.
e.g. my child follows progressive commentators on TikTok and Kirk's views were discussed there.
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A lot of far right online people were recently VERY mad at him for covering for Epstein among other things.
For left wing online types he was a reliable punching bag, more embarrassing than threatening.
For people who have felt the sweet caress of grass on their feet? They are all saying Who???
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@troberts "more embarrassing than threatening..."
He's called for violence against the transgender community.
Also called for overturning the Civil Rights Act.
FA? Meet FO.
Live so that no one writes you a eulogy like this one.
I don't think this will stay in the news all that long. Unless they find the shooter and they are some kind of person the right wing can villainize.
That is possible but given the pattern of these types of shootings I think it's a little unlikely. But we shall see.
@LGS
Shootings are bad. I want to live in a country without all of these shootings.
Worth noting that while my parents also didn't know his name.. my teenager and her friends absolutely did.
His target audience was younger.
I think it's very possible this attack was coming from one of the people who used to like him, angry because of the Epstein cover up. That's where *violent* rhetoric about this guy was coming from most recently.
Some of his fans had a para-social relationship with him. He's always been propped up by right wing big money, while trying to "reach out to the youth" and trying to seem "anti-establishment"
The cognitive dissonance of a recent statement he made "I will trust my friends in the government" (on Epstein) caused many of his fans to attack him. They were VERY mad.
So, that's what I suspect. Of course I could be wrong.
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@jbrownesq@mastodon.social so he was the 'youth pastor' of bigoted fascists, got it.
Explains why I never heard of him.
@jbrownesq I think it's important to not care too much about who he was.
He was a person who thought school shootings were ok, the necessary price of the second amendment.
He was a person who thought queer people should be killed.
He was a person who thought the Civil Rights Act was one of the greatest mistakes in history.
You don't need to know more than that. He was a shithead and we're better off without him. That's all that matters.
I could totally be wrong. We still have no idea who this guy was or what he was on about. To some degree it doesn't matter because living with these shootings all of the time is intolerable.
A right wing fan who felt alienated.
A left wing extremist fixated on Kirk for some reason.
A person who didn't like Kirk for personal or imagined reasons not related to politics.
Anyone can buy a gun, it's so easy. It's even easy to buy one and no one knows that you have it.
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Oh now he "quiet" and "no one saw this coming"
I thought he was ultra-left antifa super-solider. What changed?
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Oh yes. White shooters are always described as quiet and people say they never could see it coming.
Even the ADL had a file on the guy for violent rhetoric. This is the "I don't feel safe if the pilot flying the plane is black" guy. Very racist, anti semetic, anti Arab, hated immigrants, wanted women to be put back in a box. His death doesn't erase how he choose to live his life.
It's horrible that there are so many shootings in public places. None of us should have to put up with it. Especially school children. And now it seems they can't even catch this most recent shooter.
Me too. Didn't know who he was.
Feel sorry for his wife & kids but from what I've read, good riddance. 🤷♂️
To me that was the scary part.
He had an organization larger than the young republicans indoctrinating students destine for places of power more important than trades or labor in terms of politics.
And no normal person has really heard about him.
He was part of a pipeline warning kids that "the crazy liberals will cut off your genitals and make you pray to Stalin!" And then he offered them a "safe space" from a boogey man who didn't exist.
Like so much of this regimes network, he was just another nobody with a suspiciously funded org making sure educated people got the right indoctrination before going off to be political staffers or lawyers or whatever.
He is amongst the modern embodiment of the banality of evil.
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This is what the money on the right wanted him to be very badly. And he had so much funding he made a little headway.
But, it was not an efficient operation. He was caught buying views and fake subscribers.
A lot of younger people know him because there are so many videos making fun of him.
I worry about Nick Fuentes more when it comes to playing this role.
What a career. So many memorable moments. Wow.
my partner literally showed me the video of the shooting, and called him "some nazi guy".
later while watching youtube went "who the fuck is this charlie kirk guy" completely unaware of who it was. (hes a construction worker who is wonderfully unplugged)
he had no clue, but had seen the video in context of "nazi got got"
I'm annoyed with the liberals fretting over the optics of "disrespectful" online reactions to this news and frankly by some of the reactions that ignore the dynamic of this kind of violence. The pattern with these things has been "disillusioned right wingers"
I would like to talk about all of the very upset well armed unstable people we've been farming as of late.
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> He's never DONE anything notable.
Yet he was very much notable for the literal evil that he propagated, disseminated, and encouraged.
If being normal means being unaware of such existential threats, then I'm proud that I put in the work to NOT be normal.
@JosephMeyer That’s sad for you, Joseph.
I thought most people in the US had some understanding who Charlie Kirk is. Definitely in the Phoenix AZ area that TurningPoint had so many rallies for Trump and Trump attended here.
He was also in news quite a bit like headlines even from APNews to Salon to NPR and also online places like Twitter, C, TruthSocial, RawStory, Reddit etc.
Especially outside the US.
I was taken aback yesterday when I got the breaking news notification that *Trump* had announced Charlie Kirk's death. I was like "who?".
Some of the things he is being quoted as saying ring a bell, but I've never associated them with his name. He wasn't high profile like Joe Rogan, Richard Spencer or Milo Y.
@CptSuperlative Captain, your question will be answered in Wired.com in a breaking news article today about the Charlie Kirk killing.
When one’s participation in politics is just Parasocial Relationships replacing both community and political thought processes, it really makes sense why so many people are galvanizing around one primarily online guy with a podcast.
It’s like putting flags half mast for a talk show radio host passing.
Utterly bizarre behavior until you realize that for a large portion of the Right, Politics to them is just Parasocial Relationships with online celebrities. Then it makes sense why the figure head would stand out more than one’s actual elected representatives
honestly i would’ve been one of those people had I not been listening to Tim Alberta’s book, The Kingdom, the Power, and the Glory (which is damn good btw) this week
In fact, I paused the reading in the middle of the chapter that featured Kirk to run an errand this afternoon, only to turn on the radio in my pickup and hear the news that he’d been shot
I don’t know what word describes that phenomenon, but that was definitely too much of it today
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Yeah. I keep forgetting that people treat this like folklore not something that is really happening. It's all a story with villains and heroes. It's a team sport with sides.
Maybe that is why the fact that Trump was shot by right wing members of his movement just can't stick in people's heads. It's not as good of a story.
I try to keep track of all the English-speaking cultural "influencers" on the far right, both sides of the pond. I'm part of an anti-racist group who do that, and there are various private spaces where we share info.
That makes me atypical. I doubt anyone in this English town had a clue who Kirk was before, and most probably still have no idea today. News of his death will have been lost in the white noise of all the other reports of shootings in America.
Even those who know who he is can wonder why his death is so newsworthy.
People are shot and killed every day in this country, hundreds actually, hundreds every day. It's the leading cause of death among children!
All of these are tragic and avoidable. But only the smallest fraction of a percent of them get as much attention as Kirk's.
What makes him special? Why are we talking more about him than the children who are shot and killed every single day?
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I have to say I'd never heard of him before seeing reports of him being shot
Then when I read more about him I lost any interest
Unlike the kids in the school shooting that happened on the same day, three of whom were in critical condition from the vanishingly few reports I found, anyone know how they're doing ?
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I never heard of Charlie Kirk, nor did I understand why there was so much gnashing of teeth and rending of clothes by right wingers. It was another shooting in the US, on the same day as a school shooting in the US, where shootings are, unfortunately, a regular occurrence.
I still don't understand the reactions. But, I'm not desperate to bump the Epstein files out of the top spot in the national conversation.
Just an interesting insight - my son works for a police force (civilian side). His forces (there are three who work together) are suffering from cash problems and are making cuts.
And yet another force - the Met, not far from us - is spending so much of their resources on arresting pensioners and peaceful demonstrators.
If there is not enough resources, maybe reducing the time and amount spent on doing stupid and useless stuff.
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Yeah, but not everyone follows the hashtag. I tend to follow accounts because I'm up for conversation.
So there is value in that.
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The best thing about being in a car is that I or my wife is the only one talking to me .
A passenger has just got on the bus and is talking to everyone, not making any sense - not making sense is my job!
Immigrant hotel protestors have been confronted with the terrifying face of logic this morning.NewsThump
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The Deep Shame of the United Kingdom
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The PM will stress the "the action Israel must take to end the horrific suffering" in Gaza, No 10 said.Brian Wheeler (BBC News)
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Will
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In
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@tadbithuman @tompearce49 may monsters whirr round their heads in fitful nightmares
Starmer
Lammy
All the enablers
Curse them all
@tompearce49
...I hope and pray that it does come through, preferably in a just and peaceful way.
Same with people in positions of power polluting the earth too. 3 sets of crimes that have no punishments barred for me.
Prime Minister Keir Starmer and Rachel Reeves have released their tax returns in April 2025. And former Prime Minister Rishi Sunak did the same in 2024.
For the sake of fairness, democracy and transparency, we call on you to support this petition and demand that #Frogface makes his financial records public. Your signature can make a difference in urging for transparency from our political leaders
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I've just sent this to my MP, I wonder if I will get a reply?
Subject: Pirates of the Mediterranean
Dear MP
What sort of response am I going to get from the UK Government, via yourself, that will justify the latest international lawbreaking of the Israeli Government?
Dropping drones on unarmed boats in Tunisian waters, dropping bombs on Qatar targetting people who are trying to negotiate for peace, and the Israeli Defense Ninister saying the Gates of Hell have opened on Gaza.
Also, also why the F*** is Starmer welcoming the President of Israel today, he should be arresting him for complicity in war crimes!
A disgusted, disapointed constituent!
Fund NHS COVID boosters for Clinically Vulnerable people – keep covid boosters
'Protect the NHS' and 'Save Lives' by continuing to fund NHS COVID boosters for Clinically Vulnerable people, including most previously shielded as CEV, rather than limiting them to over-75s, care home residents and those with severely weakened immune systems.
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Preston’s university name change: From the Institution for the Diffusion of Knowledge to the University of Lancashire
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The England cerebral palsy team were beaten 3-1 by Ukraine in the European Championship final.BYTESEU (Bytes Europe)
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Have these sunglasses been mistakenly left on this bench, or is an invisible person sitting there and watching the reaction of passersby?
#LostProperty
#Sunglasses
#InvisiblePerson
#InvisibleMan
#InvisibleWoman
So the headline from BBC News - Consultation to look at closing children's A&E unit in Ormskirk
The NHS says moving a children's emergency unit from Ormskirk to Southport is its "preferred option".
Or does the final paragraph explain
"With increasing population aging and complexity in care needs, maintaining duplicate services across two sites is unsustainable," it said.
Do they want to move a children's A&E to a hospital that hasn't had a Children's A&E for 20 years or does local NHS want to move ONLY children's A&E or close Ormskirk A&E
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This is indeed true but there is such pressure these days to shift orthodoxy ever more to the Right, indeed to build a House extension in which to re-site the Overton Window that I find it useful to listen occasionally to the quiet voice of the young lad pointing out the Emperor's naturist tendencies...
#NoKings