FOSS JS extension? (blocking by default non-FOSS JS)
I am a long-time NoScript extension (noscript.net/) user. For those who don't know this automatically blocks any javascript and let you accept them (temporarily or permanently) based on the scripts' origin domain.
NoScript as some quality-of-life option like 'accepting script from current page's domain by default' so only 3rd parties would be blocked (usefull in mobile where it is tedious to go to the menu).
When I saw LibreJS (gnu.org/software/librejs/) I though that would be a better version of NoScript but it is quiet different in usage and cares about license and not open-source code (maybe it can't).
Am I the only one who thought about checking for open-source JS scripts filtering (at least by default)? This would require reproducibility of 'compilation'/packaging. I think with lock files (npm, yarn, etc) this could be doable and we could have some automatic checks for code.
Maybe the trust system for who checks could be a problem. I wanted to discuss this matter for a while.
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Som en konsekvens av Elon Musks övertagande av Twitter urartade plattformen. Moderering avskaffades i praktiken och högerextremism, rasism och antifeminism med mer abredde ut sig.
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Elon Musk träder in på arenan. Som en konsekvens av Elon Musks övertagande av Twitter urartade plattformen. Moderering avskaffadesAnders_S (Svenssons Nyheter)
en petitess som bara nämns kort i början, men värt att nämna:
Det var inte att moderingen upphörde, utan att den ändrades. Musk släppte in nyss utkastade högerextremister (Trump bla.) och började stänga av en massa vänstersidor.
Detta har trollats bort i mainstreammedia där det istället hävdats just att modereringen skulle upphört. Därefter uppstod en debatt på felaktiga premisser huruvida detta är bra eller dåligt där högertomtar kunnat spela rollen som censurmotståndare.
Har själv hört flera från vänster som gett sig in i detta och börjat debattera huruvida det är rätt eller fel med moderering/censurering av högerextremister när den verkliga storyn är att Elon Musk censurerar vänstern, antirasister och sina egna kritiker.
Resume work from backup on another device?
I use 2 different computers in 2 different locations both running Universal Blue.
I was wondering if there is any way to create a backup system where i could backup Computer1 over the internet to Computer2 and continue work like nothing happened with all the user data and installed applications being there. The goal is to only need to transfer the user data/applications and no system data (that should be the same for both because of Ublue, right?), to keep the backup size small.
To be clear, i need help figuring out the backup part, not the transfering over the internet part.
If I were to backup the directories on Computer1, which store user data, with for example borgbackup, could I restore them on Computer2 and have a working system? Or would there be conflicts because of more low level stuff missing like applications and configs? Which directories would I need and which could be excluded?
Is there a better option? Any advice is appreciated!
I also came across btrfs snapshot capabilities and thought they could possibly used for this. But as far as I understand it, that would mean transferring the whole system and not only the data and applications. Am i missing something?
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Regardless of what technical solution you decide to rely on, e.g borgbackup, Synchting or rsync, the biggest question is "what" do you actually need. You indeed do not need system files, you probably also applications (which can fetch back anyway) so what left is actually data. You might want to then save your ~ directory but that might still conflict with some things, e.g ~/.bashrc or ~/.local so instead you might want to start with individual applications, e.g Blender, and see where it implicitly or you explicitly save the .blend files and all their dependency.
How I would do it :
- over the course of a day, write down each application I'm using, probably a dozen at most (excluding CLI tools)
- identify for each where data is stored and possibly simplify that, e.g all my Blender files in a single directory with subdirectory
- using whatever solution I have chosen, synchronize those directories
- test on the other device while being on the same network (should be much faster and with a change of fixing problems)
then I would iterate over time. If I were to often have to move and can't really iterate, I would make the entire ~ directory available even though it's overkill, and only pick from it on a per needed basis. I would also insure to exclude some directories that could be large, maybe ~/Downloads
PS: I'd also explore Nix for the system and applications side of things but honestly only AFTER taking care of what's actually unique to you, i.e data.
Thank you for the detailed response!
Yes, the what data and how to not create conflicts has been troubling me the most.
I think I might first narrow it down with test VMs first, to skip the transfer part, before I actually use it “in production“.
Honestly a very imperfect alternatives but that's been sufficient for me for years is... NextCloud of documents.
There are few dozen documents I need regardless of the device, e.g national ID, billing template, but the vast VAST majority of my files I can get on my desktop... which is why I replied to you in depth rather than actually doing it. I even wrote some software for a "broader" view on resuming across devices including offline, namely git.benetou.fr/utopiah/offline… as a network of NodeJS HTTP servers but ... same, that's more for the intellectual curiosity than a pragmatic need. So yes explore with VMs if you prefer but I'd argue remain pragmatic, i.e what you genuinely do need versus an "idealized" system that you don't actually use yet makes your workflow and setup more complex and less secure.
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The torture crimes in “Ofer” camp are no less severe than the torture crimes recorded in “Sde Teman” camp.
The Prisoners and Ex-Prisoners Affairs’ Commission and the Palestinian Prisoners Club announced in an alarming statement yesterday, that the level of abuse in “Ofer” camp against Palestinian prisoners is not less severe than the testimonies that emerged from the “Sde Teman” concentration camp, which has been the most prominent site of torture crimes against Gaza detainees.
“Ofer,” which holds hundreds of Gaza detainees, is one of several camps and prisons where prisoners face systematic and unprecedented crimes since the start of the genocide war.
Details of the torture crimes against prisoners and detainees in the occupation’s prisons and camps are ongoing, with daily shocking and horrifying testimonies being recorded by various organizations.
Testimony from the detainee G.W. about torture crimes following his arrest on March 2, 2024, at a checkpoint in the city of Hamad (Gaza):
“During my interrogation, the interrogators tried to drown me using the water from the toilet bowl.”
“To this day, we are subjected to torture, humiliation, and beatings.”
“The occupation forces stripped me of my clothes, tied my hands behind my back, blindfolded me, and transferred me to a truck. They assaulted me and all the other detainees who were with me. We were then taken to a roofed area (zinko), where the occupation kept us for 100 days along with dozens of other detainees. This phase was the most severe, in terms of the torture methods used against us.”
For the 100 days, the detainees were beaten for any movement they made. During this time, the detainees’ hands remained tied, and their eyes were blindfolded, or they were forced to sit on their legs or stomachs. Prolonged standing as a punishment method was commonly used against the detainees.
The detainee continued: “During my interrogation, I was subjected to an attempt to drown me using the water inside the the toilet, in addition to prolonged standing as a punishment method.”
The detainee is currently held in “Ofer” camp. The management of this camp is under the occupation army, and according to several visits made to Gaza detainees there, each room holds at least 20 prisoners who are subjected to torture, humiliation, abuse, and beatings.
One detainee reported that the prison administration recently raided the room-cell where he was held after the detainees hid bread slices. The raid lasted several hours, during which the forces used methods such as bending the hand and severe beating on the shoulder and fingers, resulting in a broken hand for one detainee and a broken nose for an elderly detainee.
Visits conducted under high levels of surveillance.
The lawyer confirmed that the visits to Gaza detainees in “Ofer” camp are conducted under high levels of strict surveillance. Most of the detainees refused to give any details about their detention conditions, and signs of fear and intimidation were evident on them. One detainee refrained from talking about anything, fearing being beaten, and only mentioned that he experiences severe shaking for long periods after any attack.
The Commission and the Club confirmed that the level of surveillance imposed on lawyers, detainees, and prisoners – in various prisons – is unprecedented, casting a shadow over the work of legal teams and affecting the behavior of detainees and their testimonies during visits, especially since some prisons have adopted assaults on prisoners during their transfer for visits, with Naqab Desert prison being one of the most notable. The level of surveillance has been one of several systematic obstacles and policies that have significantly impacted lawyers’ visits.
The most prominent crimes reflected in the testimonies of Gaza detainees over the past period:
• The crime of enforced disappearance, which has been the most prominent crime imposed by the occupation on the majority of Gaza detainees.
• Using detainees as human shields for extended periods during ground military operations.
• Committing torture crimes against them through various methods, including electric shocks, prolonged standing, continuous handcuffing, repeated beatings that caused broken limbs for many detainees, and the use of police dogs during attacks.
• Systematic medical crimes by depriving them of basic treatment, performing surgeries without anesthesia, and amputating limbs of detainees due to continuous restraint.
• Committing rape and sexual assault crimes at various levels.
• Committing the crime of starvation against them.
• Forcing detainees to utter demeaning words that insult their dignity and offend their families.
• Forcing them to sit in certain positions that cause severe pain and aim to humiliate them.
• No detainee is allowed to speak to another detainee, and those who do are subjected to severe beatings.
• Depriving them of practicing any religious rituals.
Key facts about Gaza detainees in the occupation’s prisons:
Since the start of the genocide war, the occupation has detained thousands from Gaza, with the occupation’s prison administration acknowledging the detention of 1,584 detainees from Gaza, whom the occupation classified as unlawful combatants. This figure does not include all Gaza detainees, particularly those in camps under military management. Despite some legal amendments made by the occupation regarding Gaza detainees, which allowed institutions to reveal the fate of Gaza detainees through a specific mechanism, the vast majority of them remain in enforced disappearance, including martyrs who ascended due to torture, estimated to be in the dozens. The specialized institutions face significant challenges in following up on the issue of Gaza detainees, especially since visits are still limited.
As of early August, the number of prisoners in the occupation’s prisons exceeds 9,900, a figure that does not include all Gaza detainees, particularly those held in military camps.
The Commission and the Club renew their ongoing call to the international human rights system to reclaim the role for which it was established, and to move beyond merely documenting the occupation’s crimes and issuing statements and calls, to another level that upholds the values of human justice. This begins with holding the occupation leaders accountable for their ongoing systematic crimes as part of the ongoing extermination war against our people in Gaza, and its other face represented by the torture crimes and severe violations against prisoners and detainees in “israeli” prisons.
Microsoft’s latest security update has ruined dual-boot Windows and Linux PCs
Microsoft’s latest security update has ruined dual-boot Windows and Linux PCs
Microsoft has issued a security update that has broken dual-boot Linux and Windows machines. The update wasn’t supposed to reach dual-boot PCs.Tom Warren (The Verge)
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Microsoft breaks bootloader and nixes Linux partition
Microsoft: "patch seems to be working as intended"
I don't think dual boot has ever been a good solution (unless you also run one or both of the OS's under the other in a VM).
Like, if you are unsure about linux, trying it out, learning, whatever, you can just boot a live"cd", or maybe install it on an external (flash) drive.
If you are kinda sure you want to switch, just nuke Windows; it's easier to switch that way than to have everything on two systems, having to switch.
I recently moved from proton to a W11 KVM with my 4080 passed through.
Unfortunately those hostile GAAS probably would be able to detect and block you (I don't play those games)
You can have a own EFI partition per Drive (and on it whatever bootloader you want). You then need to use the UEFI boot menu if you want e.g. boot the Windows one.
If you have 2 different OS on different drives they should never interfere with each other.
Well, i mean you could of course use the Linux Bootmanager to then forward to the Windows boot manager on the other disk. but i never experimented with that.
even if you have two drives, you still have only one bootloader, not?
The idea is to have completely separate boot and OS drives. You select which one you want to boot through the BIOS boot selection (ie. pressing F10 or F11 at the BIOS screen).
This functionally makes each OS "unaware" of the other one.
Unfortunately it really doesn’t. And it’s actually Linux that’s the bigger problem: whenever it decides to updates GRUB it looks for OSes on all of your drives to make grub entries for them. It also doesn’t necessarily modify the version of grub on the booted drive.
Yes I’m sure there’s a way to manually configure everything perfectly but my goal is a setup where I don’t have to constantly manually fix things.
If you install each OS with it's own drive as the boot device, then you won't see this issue.
Unless you boot Windows via the grub boot menu. If you do that then Windows will see that drive as the boot device.
If you select the OS by using the BIOS boot selection then you won't see this issue.
I was bitten by Windows doing exactly this almost 15 years ago. Since that day if I ever had a need for dual-boot (even if running different distros) each OS will get it's own dedicated drive, and I select what I want to boot through the BBS (BIOS Boot Selection). It's usually invoked with F10 or F11 (but could be a different key combo.
My install does not seem to do this. I removed the windows drive when installing Linux on a new drive. Put both drives in and select which one to boot in the bios. Its been that way for about a year and, so far, grub updates have never noticed the windows install nor added to grub.
That's with bazzite, can't speak for any other distro as that is the only dual-boot machine I own. Bazzite does mention they do not recommend traditional dual boot with the boot loader and recommend the bios method so maybe they have something changed to avoid that?
Oh you sweet sweet summer boy....
We're talking Microsoft here, they'll make sure they're aware and they'll make sure to f you over because Microsoft
While I generally agree with that, that's not what seems to be happening here. What seems to be happening is that anyone who boots Windows via grub is getting grub itself overwritten.
When you install Linux, boot loaders like grub generally are smart and try to be helpful by scanning all available OSes and provide a boot menu entry for those. This is generally to help new users who install a dual-boot system and help them not think that "Linux erased Windows" when they see the new grub boot loader.
When you boot Windows from grub, Windows treats the drive with grub (where it booted from) as the boot drive. But if you tell your BIOS to boot the Windows drive, then grub won't be invoked and Windows will boot seeing it's own drive as the boot drive.
This is mostly an assumption as this hasn't happened to me and details are still a bit scarce.
I did that and a Windows update nuked Linux from the BIOS boot loader a few weeks ago.
The only safe option is to have completely separate machines. Thankfully with the rise of ridiculously powerful minipcs that's easier than ever.
This means that it is impossible for them to make a patch or PR because it would conflict with the projects licence and fact its open source.
That's not how it works. It just means the company owns the code for all intents and purposes, which also means that if they tell you that you can release it under a FOSS license / contribute to someone else's project, you can absolutely do that (they effectively grant you the license to use "their" code that you wrote under a FOSS license somewhere else).
Also, youre telling somebody who has worked with big companies not allowing it in their employer contract that he is lying? Riiiight...
A lot of google devs also are not allowed to do any linux work outside of work without explicit permissions because of all the internal docs, teams and other work being done on linux from within google. Development rights is an absolute mess, legally.
I usually dont care and do what is right, despite what my emploter contract says, but i have gotten in trouble for it
They can forbid you to work on opensource stuff while being in free time? I mean, I understand that you are not allowed to generate open code that utilises private know how of the company you work for. But not working on Linux in free time seems very strange to me 😮
Edit: deleted wrong “Edit:”
I keep Linux and windows on separate disks, grub or windows boot manager don't know about each other.
I have the Linux disk as the primary boot, if I need to boot into windows i use the bios boot selection screen.
It's a bit of a pain at times(have to mash F12 to get the bios boot menu) bit it's less of a headache than trying to fix grub
Your assessment of probability is speculation
It is, but anecdote is insufficient to counter it.
And yes, some companies need to give you a green light to work on projects in your free time, because they might have a team doing similar things somewhere, it might compete in something they would like to do in the future or like you said, might use company know how which is a huge nono.
Its bs imo, but those clauses and rules are found in some employment agreements.
Remember, always read your employment agreements!
Legit have never had an issue with multi boot and windows like ever, tbf I don't go into windows that frequently anymore but it's never given me grief in at least a decade. I know my experience isn't universal though, so sorry to anyone who does have boot issues after windows updates.
In the worst case, could use bcdedit and use the windows boot loader (tbh I have no idea if that works here, but could be worth a try)
bcdedit
Reference article for the bcdedit command, which creates new stores, modify existing stores, and add boot menu parameters.learn.microsoft.com
I'm not saying you're lying, but you said
do not allow software developers to send a patch or PR to open source projects.
But this sentence in particular was misleading. Maybe you specifically did not have the right to do so, but in the Linux and BSD codebases there are a lot of @microsoft @netflix @oracle contributions, so at least there is someone in those companies authorized to do so
Yeah if you write proprietary code and then work on a similar project in your spare time, your company might sue you because you're likely reusing code you've seen or written at work.
For example Windows developers are forbidden from working on ReactOS
Fair, and ill edit my post accordingly!
There are teams that are allowed, and within those companies are teams that are directly related to foss projects because those companies are in the foundation or supports of the foundation. However, thats doesnt mean every (product) team in the company is allowed to or that they can do or change whatever they like. Its a complex mess
EFI can also live in firmware memory.
You can pull the linux drive, boot from the windows drive, and if one of the firmware updates was for efi, windows will trash the entry for your Linux disk.
This has happened for me many times, I had to use a grub rescue disk to rebuild the efi table.
Semi-O/T: I feel Microsoft is such a violation of personal security that I would not dual boot anything with Windows. I forget exactly what happened (the details), but I remember when I had upgraded my desktop from Win7 Pro to W10 Pro from the free upgrade feature, it broke the MBR/GRUB.. from that day on, I've kept my OS completed separated by device.
If it's just sandboxing / VMs, that's whatever, not sweating that at all.
Remove your Microsoft installation, done.
Yes but...
But what? This is Microsoft, they fucked it up so many times that it's either incompetence or sabotage, and knowing Microsoft, it's probably both.
This is the same company that invented millions to sabotage Linux through the legal system (hello sco), and the same company that in purpose left gaping security holes open as to not lose any money, causing China to hack the US government through said holes.
Then we decide that just that money isn't enough so we'll spy on you at every step of the way, we will force feed you ads, and we'll use you to train our shitty AI
Frack Microsoft, frack any and all of their software.
Really depends on the virtualization technology, hardware, configuration and game. Not a gamer myself.
Gaming on linux has come a long way in recent years though, in no small part thanks to Steam.
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I recently discovered that Rufus has an option to set up a Windows ISO as "Windows on the go" so I dug out an old 500Gb SSD that had a USB adapter with it and installed Windows on that. So now instead of dual booting I can just hit F12 and boot from USB on the rare occasions when I need to run something in Windows.
It's also quite satisfying to be able to physically remove Windows and shove it into a drawer when it goes full Windows too lol.
Rufus - Create bootable USB drives the easy way
Rufus: Create bootable USB drives the easy wayrufus.ie
I should have been more clear,
Assuming dev/sda is Linux and dev/sdb is Windows, I have grub on sda and Windows bootloader on sdb. I use a hotkey at boot to tell the bios which drive to boot from.
Theoretically windows thinks it's the only OS unless it's scoping out that second hard disk.
Windows update breaks Linux dual boot - but there is a fix for some users
If you've recently updated Windows and found your system no longer dual boots, here's why and what you can do about it.Jack Wallen (ZDNET)
So, excusing my ignorance as a fairly recent Linux convert, what does this mean for my dual boot system?
I haven’t booted windows for weeks and am pretty sure there have been no updates since it was freshly reinstalled (maybe 6 months ago) as a dual boot with Debian.
Is this only a problem if I allow Windows to update?
Are Microsoft likely to fix the issue in a subsequent release?
Yes, you don't have to worry as long as you don't boot up windows and let it install the update.
This is not the first time they break dual boots by touching the partitions, but this is the first time they deliberately break it (that I know of).
I always had windows on its own drive because of that. If you don't use windows a lot then I would suggest to do the same. You have to change to windows through bios but it isn't that much more work.
Thanks for the reply, and good to know!
I think I’ll blow away the windows install on this machine completely.
I still have another pc for some audio tools that don’t run under Linux, but this machine is my daily driver now and I couldn’t be happier.
Not saying youre wrong, but you took the wrong project as an example hehe.
Visual code is not open source. Its core is, but visual code isnt.
The difference is what visual code ships with, on top of its core.
Its like saying chrome == chromium ( it isnt ).
Visual code comes with a lot of features, addins and other stuff that isnt in the core.
.net debugger for example, is not found in vscodium ( build of the vscode core ). And there is more stuff i cant think of now but have come across.
Source: been using vscodium for a few months instead of vscode
Also, its more complex than that. Some teams can, some cant. And if they can it all depends on what project or context. The business world isnt that cut and dry hehe
Episode 250 of The Linux Lugcast Podcast is out – The Linux Tiredcast
This episode we talk about using your Samsung Gear VR in 2024, Apache’s name and logo change drama, haunted computers, a Linux application that lets you use your tablet as a touch and drawing interface for your PC, vertical tabs in Firefox, hacking the Kindle to use as a second monitor, and the 2020 straight to streaming movie “Virtual Death Match”.
Clips of the show:
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The Apache Software Foundation attempts to right a wrong it unintentionally created when it adopted its name 25-years ago.Christine Hall (FOSS Force)
Linux Market Share Reaches New Peak: July 2024 Report
The Linux operating system has reached a notable milestone in desktop market share, according to the latest data from StatCounter. As of July 2024, Linux has achieved a 4.45% market share for desktop operating systems worldwide.While this percentage might seem small to those unfamiliar with the operating system landscape, it represents a significant milestone for Linux and its dedicated community. What makes this achievement even more thrilling is the upward trajectory of Linux's adoption rate.
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According to the statistics from the past ten years, It took eight years for Linux to go from a 1% to 2% market share (April 2021), 2.2 years to climb from 2% to 3% (June 2023), and a mere 0.7 years to reach 4% from 3% (February 2024). This exponential growth pattern suggests that 2024 might be the year Linux reaches a 5% market share.
Linux Market Share Reaches New Peak: July 2024 Report
The Linux operating system has reached a notable milestone in desktop market share, according…sk (OSTechNix)
People are converting. Not entirely on its own merit, of course: Its competition repeatedly is enshitifying the user experience and pushing people to try other options. Combine that with steam and their work on linux's compatibility layer and you get most of the movement.
That said once you hit a certain market share developers become more willing to port or provide binaries for the growing platform. It can accelerate further from there. Linux mainstream isn't there yet but it's starting to get in striking distance of its competition.
It is finally upon us.
THE YEAR OF THE LINUX DESKTOP!
Terms and conditions apply. It could be the next year, or the year after, or not at all.
Did anybody bother to look at the numbers?
I checked the stats for the last 4 years here and it looks really strange.
Statistics isn't my thing... But it looks like it's wise to be cautious and not to fully trust the numbers.
Around the beginning of last year there was a huge dip in the Windows market share that seemed to be correlating with a peek in "unknown".
Windows then catched up in a somewhat erratic way.
Mac OS also shows a weird behavior.
Starts at 16%, up to 21% and the down to 14% between October and November...
It's not likely that a huge number of people decided to buy a Mac and then trash it one month later. Same but opposite goes for the windows stats.
I think it looks like there is an uncertainty of more than the total market share Linux is shown to have..
Not saying that Linux isn't increasing on desktop market share.
Just saying that numbers seen to have quite a bit error margin and to be cautious if referring to these numbers.
Desktop Operating System Market Share Worldwide | Statcounter Global Stats
This graph shows the market share of desktop operating systems worldwide based on over 5 billion monthly page views.StatCounter Global Stats
Consolo is a modular cyberdeck with a Raspberry Pi 5 for brains, a 7 inch display and 7 hours of battery life - Liliputing
Consolo is a modular cyberdeck with a Raspberry Pi 5 for brains, a 7 inch display and 7 hours of battery life - Liliputing
Consolo is a modular cyberdeck with a Raspberry Pi 5 for brains, a 7 inch display and 7 hours of battery lifeBrad Linder (Liliputing)
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One of the earliest community events that I got heavily involved with here in the UK was OggCamp. Back in the later part of the first decade of the 21st Century, otherwise known as around about 2009, a band of Free Culture and Free and Open Source advocates and fans banded together to create an unconference that brought together these communities to talk about and celebrate … well, everything they were interested in, really 🎉
(you can go back and read my much, much older posts on the subject, if you like)
Over the years, OggCamp has been a lot of fun. It has been held in various places around the UK – I didn’t get to all of them, but I have been to them from Farnham to Liverpool and Manchester. The last time the event was held was back in 2019, in Manchester. I’ve always tried to be a part of the crew where I could, to help everyone enjoy the event and to make it as successful as possible.
This year, a small group of determined individuals are bringing OggCamp back from its five year, deep intergalactic hypersleep state of temporary suspension. For my part, this time around I’m graduating from member of the crew, to the person helping to direct our volunteers! The largest event of this kind in the UK returns over the weekend of October 12-13 2024, once again at the Manchester Conference Centre at the Pendulum Hotel.
🎉 Exciting news! After 5 years away, OggCamp, the ultimate unconference for open source and free culture enthusiasts is back for a triumphant return in 2024! 🌟🗓️ Join us at The Manchester Conference Centre on October 12th and 13th.
🚀 Get ready for a weekend filled with innovation, collaboration, and community spirit!
🔗 Stay tuned for the Call for Papers (CfP) and ticket announcements – watch this space! 🎟️
#OggCamp2024 #OpenSource #TechConference #Manchester
— OggCamp (@oggcamp) 2024-03-29T18:10:45.708Z
A few important things you need to know right now:
- This is an unconference. Although we’ll have a scheduled track (apply here), the most important element of OggCamp is the talks and activities that the participants carry along with them. If you’ve got a project, topic, or social activity you’d like to talk about, bring your talk with you, pop the title on a Post-It note, and everyone will vote on which sessions are most interesting to hear about on the day(s). You may get to attend talks and learn about anything, ranging across a broad spectrum of things such as, but not limited to: free software, open hardware, public data, community, sustainability, knitting, running, beekeeping, all kinds of things! I’ve got more than a couple of ideas for talks I’d like to give, but I know I’ll be busy with other tasks, so there will be plenty of opportunities for everyone to bring their own interests and be their own authentic selves.
- Tickets are on sale, and we’ll need to cover certain costs – but, we’re also trying to make it as accessible as possible, so attendance can actually be completely free, if you just want to come along1 – and we have a suggested donation price, rather than a fixed one, if you do want to support us financially. Do sign up with a ticket though, as we need to know numbers2.
- I will definitely be needing help to run the physical spaces on the days: we will have roles from greeting folks as they arrive, helping to operate the merchandise stall, being runners to support any speaker needs, getting rooms set up for talks etc. So, if you’re able to help out, please-please-please register as a crew volunteer 🙏🏻 You’ll get a fabulous limited edition crew t-shirt, and you’ll be part of making the weekend a fantastic one for everyone attending and taking part (seriously: I’ve always really enjoyed helping to run the event, and I want to make sure everyone has a wonderful experience again in 2024; I aspire to be as good at leading the crew as my dear friend and former Chief, the legendary Les Pounder!).
Don’t just take my word for it – Gary, our fearless leader for OggCamp 2024, gave a short interview on the Late Night Linux podcast3 the other day, where he talked about what’s up.
Also: please, do help us to spread the message that OggCamp is back for 2024. Things have changed a lot (online in particular) in the past 5 years, so not everyone may be listening to the same channels as before. You can follow what’s happening with OggCamp in the fediverse via the Mastodon account, as well as across various other channels mentioned on the website.
Hope to see you there!
- (getting to the venue itself notwithstanding) ↩︎
- The first version of this post said you don’t need a ticket, but you do / we do need to know numbers for capacity planning, so I updated this paragraph. ↩︎
- OggCamp segment from 08:27; NB other unrelated elements of the show may contain adult language from frustrated Linux sysadmins… ↩︎
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OggCamp is an unconference about free and open source topics; software, hardware, culture … we love it all! Except that this unconference also has a scheduled track, to get the ball rolling.www.papercall.io
🎉 Exciting news! After 5 years away, OggCamp, the ultimate unconference for open source and free culture enthusiasts is back for a triumphant return in 2024! 🌟🗓️ Join us at The Manchester Conference Centre on October 12th and 13th.
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“Something has gone seriously wrong,” dual-boot systems warn after Microsoft update
Last Tuesday, loads of Linux users—many running packages released as early as this year—started reporting their devices were failing to boot. Instead, they received a cryptic error message that included the phrase: “Something has gone seriously wrong.”The cause: an update Microsoft issued as part of its monthly patch release. It was intended to close a 2-year-old vulnerability in GRUB, an open source boot loader used to start up many Linux devices. The vulnerability, with a severity rating of 8.6 out of 10, made it possible for hackers to bypass secure boot, the industry standard for ensuring that devices running Windows or other operating systems don’t load malicious firmware or software during the bootup process. CVE-2022-2601 was discovered in 2022, but for unclear reasons, Microsoft patched it only last Tuesday.
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The reports indicate that multiple distributions, including Debian, Ubuntu, Linux Mint, Zorin OS, Puppy Linux, are all affected. Microsoft has yet to acknowledge the error publicly, explain how it wasn’t detected during testing, or provide technical guidance to those affected. Company representatives didn’t respond to an email seeking answers.
“Something has gone seriously wrong,” dual-boot systems warn after Microsoft update
Microsoft said its update wouldn't install on Linux devices. It did anyway.Ars Technica
Microsoft doesn't break grub, it does what is known as a "bootloader coup".
rEFInd is an easy way to fix without having to google magical console incantation after booting in an installer liveusb and then chrooting into the broken system
You USB boot that rEFInd stick and choose " install rEFInd" and you're done.
The only catch is the rEFInd is kind of a maze to find the rEFInd .iso
It is here
I get to dual boot at work (I run mint btw) and the only reason I ever boot into windows every week or three is to make sure it doesn’t get so out of date that it gets booted from the network.
I guess it’s time to stop that shit! Having windows available is not worth the risk of messing up my work machine. Hell I’m tempted to nuke that windows partition and double the size of my /home partition!
Though I will give Microsoft credit that m365 stuff, including video calls in Teams, work great using the web versions in Firefox. That’s even with the security and privacy stuff cranked up. I only white listed those sites for cookies and local storage for convenience.
Yeah, honestly it’s worked fine without any fiddling around. If it makes a difference, I tend to do things like let mint use non-free components if necessary, and I know I do have the “play drm stuff” option turned on I’m Firefox, even though the privacy and security stuff is all strict.
It’s just a Dell laptop with a discrete nvidia gpu in addition to the embedded Intel one. I think it works fine though with either the open drivers or the closed nvidia ones, but I don’t know if it touches that gpu.
“The SBAT value is not applied to dual-boot systems that boot both Windows and Linux and should not affect these systems,” the bulletin read. “You might find that older Linux distribution ISOs will not boot. If this occurs, work with your Linux vendor to get an update.”
Excuse me, those are the opposite of each other.
SBAT Revocations: Boot Process
Since November 2022, several Linux distributions, including Ubuntu 22.04.2 and 20.04.6, have upgraded to shim 15.7, which provides a critical security update to address various vulnerabilities in the boot stack.Ubuntu Community Hub
I think you're misunderstanding the purpose of Secure Boot. It's not designed, nor very good at, preventing physical access. It's designed to verify the authenticity of the code you are booting each time, most generally to prevent remote attacks. Think of it more like how HTTPS works. The reason you commonly have to install new keys when installing Linux is because there are separate ones for the bootloader, the OS, and kernel modules. GRUBs is generally already in the database. The OS can be hit and miss, Canonical generally has theirs included for example. Then there's the kernel modules. If they were built and included in binary form, they're usually signed with the same key as the OS. But if they're built locally, say when you install NVIDIA driver's, then they're signed with a local key, which has to be enrolled. So it's similar to a self-signed HTTPS certificate. A lot of routers use those, and browser's will throw a big warning you have to click through. It's the same with Secure Boot. For example, if a virus tries to build a malicious kernel module, it will throw the same enrollment screen, which would let you know something's up if you didn't initiate it. There also has to be a password, that you set in userspace, and then re-enter on the enrollment screen, confirming that it's a requested action.
Disabling other keys won't prevent someone from simply entering the bios and disabling Secure Boot first if they have physical access, which would let them boot anything. If you want to prevent that, then the methods you would generally use is setting a system password in the BIOS it asks for each boot, or disabling other boot options (or the boot menu depending on the computer) and setting a BIOS password. However, if you're trying to prevent people from booting other OSes as a way to protect your files from being accessed, well someone could just take the drive out with physical access. The best practice there is to encrypt the drive with something like BitLocker, FileVault or LUKS/dm-crypt (basis of many distros full-disk encrypt features).
Edit: You could also have Secure Boot enabled, delete every other key and set a BIOS password if you wanted too I guess. I haven't tried, nor read of anyone trying too.
I remember trying to push the limits with a Windows 10 VM, and 2GB was the bare minimum;
however, Windows loves to abuse virtual memory (basically using the main storage drive instead of RAM) and if that drive is a HDD the PC is little more than an IoT space heater.
A relative of mine has a Windows 10 PC with 4GB of memory and it takes ~ 5 minutes to start Chrome after booting it up; it does have a lot of miscellaneous bloatware on it, though.
I'm sure it was a terrible misunderstanding.
Anyway they are only hurting themselves.
Microsoft: you can have security updates
Users: good
Microsoft: just keep in mind they will make major changes and will totally change the desktop and settings.
Users: wait what Microsoft Edge opens
At this point I literally only have windows installed for potential future PCVR Plans (not just steam games either, at least 2 are exclusive to the Oculus launcher) does anyone out there know if there's a way to run Oculus VR games without a windows drive? I'm using a quest 2
If it was just steam games I would just try ALVR, but lone echo 1 & 2 are exclusive
IMO it's a much better use case to use it for wireless PCVR, also the games I'm talking about don't work standalone, They are exclusive to the Oculus PCVR app on Windows
Can't even use a non-oculus (aka meta) headset to play them without workarounds
Sadly, no, the Oculus software suite is Windows only, no exceptions. If there are a couple must-plays on your list that are Oculus Store only, you'll have to keep Windows around. Who knows, maybe someday there will be some workaround, but that's not the case at the moment.
The good news is, for anything that isn't exclusive, ie on Steam or even Epic/GOG, there are options. I use a piece of software called ALVR. You install the ALVR server on your PC and the client on your Quest 2 (look into how to use Sidequest if you havent already). You launch both pieces of software, launch SteamVR on your PC, make sure the ALVR server sees it, connect the Quest client to the server, and voila, wireless PCVR on Linux. I'd say the performance is at ~85% of what you could expect on Windows natively, give or take 5 or 10% depending on your setup. By no means unplayable.
There is also OpenComposite. I know much less about this so it would be worth doing some research, but it basically bypasses SteamVR entirely. This would be especially handy for, for example, a VR game installed via Heroic Launcher (Epic, GOG, and Amazon games), where getting a game that requires SteamVR to actually see SteamVR would be a huge headache due to the separate prefixes/wine versions. There may be a way to accomplish that, but from what I can tell, OpenComposite is specifically designed to help avoid those headaches.
Yeah, pretty much what I thought, thanks
And yeah, for non Oculus exclusives I plan on using ALVR, I've tried it before but not in nearly two years, I hear it's gotten much better now though, And I even saw something claiming that sidequest wasn't even required anymore as of recently.
github.com/nestriness/nestri
GitHub - games-on-whales/wolf: Stream virtual desktops and games running in Docker
Stream virtual desktops and games running in Docker - games-on-whales/wolfGitHub
It's free tho? Except for some minor limitations:
"The free downloadable demonstration version of Fade In includes all key functionality except for online realtime collaboration, and will place a watermark on any printed/PDF output."
And there are ways around those
The question mark made me think it was a question :)
The other commenter started a strange argument on what is what.
Which screenwriting software? Have you tried running it under WINE?
And do you HAVE to use that one in particular? Or can you use something like Trelby, Manuskript, or Scrite?
BookLibConnect and AaxAudioConverter. I use them do download my Audible purchases. They are both written using WPF (or some other Windows API only GUI lib) and thus cannot be run on Linux. I might rewrite them using the newest C# cross platform library, but that library does not compile native on Linux, only on Windows... (Unless you use the community maintained version).
I did try to find replacement for both for them but their ease of use and the conversion tool for axx to m4b made it preferable to just install Windows in a VM.
As for WinSCP, it is a SFTP/FPT client that is really nice and I did miss it initially as well. But Nautilus file manager has both SFTP and FTP support built into it. And if you want a dedicated client, I can recommend Terminus (but I am not a heavy user, rclone in terminal does most of my heavy lifting).
GitHub - audiamus/BookLibConnect: A standalone Audible downloader and decrypter
A standalone Audible downloader and decrypter. Contribute to audiamus/BookLibConnect development by creating an account on GitHub.GitHub
Because some users are putting that data on Linux. So they want Linux to be killed.
They can't change grub. But they sure as hell can convince micro$org to search for and nuke it.
Of course no idea if this happened. Just answering why they would might want to.
WineHQ - Final Draft
Open Source Software for running Windows applications on other operating systems.appdb.winehq.org
It looks like some GRUB versions are fixed, e.g. possibly in Ubuntu from 22.10. Dunno if Fedora has the fixed version. I'm facing the same with my Mint/Windows dual boot; considering not booting windows till I'm ready to upgrade Mint to 22.
If you do get problems, it also looks like you can get around it by turning off secure boot until things are sorted.
If you're not an experienced Linux meddler I wouldn't recommend changing your bootloader from the default given by your distribution, but I guess if this is widespread most distros will upgrade their bootlodladers soon to deal with it.
They had to know this would happen, right?
Like, they didn't think to test with a dual booting system? Wtf?
Where do they even get off fixing a bug in grub?
The Best way to switch to Linux is to NOT
Okay I know this sounds like click bait but trust me switching over to linux requires you to first master the open source software that you will be replacing your windows/mac counterparts with. Doing it in an unfamiliar OS with no fallback to rely on is tough, frustrating and will turn you off of trying linux.
DISCLAIMER: I know that some people cannot switch to linux because open source / Linux software is not good enough yet. But I urge you to keep track of them and when so you can know when they are good enough.
The Solution
So I suggest you keep using windows, switch all your apps to open or closed source software that is available on linux. Learn them, use them and if you are in a pinch and need to use your windows only software it will still be there. Once you are at a point where you never use the windows only software you can then think of switching over to linux.
The Alternatives
So to help you out I'll list my favorites for each use case.
MS Office -> Only Office
- Not for folks who use obscure macros and are deep into MS Office
- Has Collaboration and integration with almost all popular cloud services..
- Has a MS Office like UI and the best compatibility with MS Office.
Adobe Premiere -> Da Vinci Resolve
- It is closed source but available on linux
- Great UI, competitive features and a free version
Outlook -> Thunderbird
- Recently went through massive updates and now has a modern design.
- Templates, multi account management, content based filters, html signatures, it is all there.
Epic Games, GOG, PRIME -> Heroic
- Easy to use, 1 click install, no hassel
- Beautiful UI
- Automatically imports all the games you have bought
PDF Editor -> LibreOffice Draw
- Suprisingly good for text manipulation, moving around images and alot more.
- There might be slight incompatibilities (I haven't noticed anything huge)
- But hey, it's free
How do I pick a distro there are so many! NO
So finally after switching all the apps you think you are ready? Do not fall into the rabbit hole of changing your entire OS every two days, you will be in a toxic relationship with it.
I hate updates and my hardware is not that new
- Mint - UI looks a bit dated but it is rock solid
- Ubuntu - Yes, I know snaps are bad, but you can just ignore them
I have new hardware but I want sane updates
- Fedora
- Open Suse Tumbleweed
I live on the bleeding edge baby, both hardware and software
- Arch ... btw
Anyways what is more important is the DE than the distro for a beginner, trust me. Gnome, KDE, Cinnamon, etc. you can try them all in a VM and see which one you like.
SO TLDR: Don't switch to linux! Switch to linux apps.
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I wrote this for beginners ... While you shouldn't be installing arch either as a beginner but if your are up for it tools like the arch wiki and archisntall are still easier than learning nix os ...
I have been using linux since years now and I have no idea what a nix is /j
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And Debian could be used instead of Mint. Almost all the Ubuntu support online applies, except no snap requirement.
Also, start using WSL for random things you do in GUI today to learn CLI/bash.
But yea, great guide.
This does not work for everyone. A lot of people will try to switch, but find one tool they are used to they cannot now use and are not used to the alternatives so feel frustrated when trying to use them for real work. Then get pissed off at Linux and switch back to windows.
This advice is more for people that are thinking about Linux but have some professional or semi professional or hobby workflow on their computers that they need to be productive in. It can be very hard for them to switch os and tooling they are used to with no way to fall back to what they know when they need to.
You will find most people don't rely on these tools and they can doba quick check and decide to switch straight away. But ignoring this advice for the rest can make transitioning to Linux easier.
We need to stop pretending that switching tools that you rely on and have spent decades learning to be proficient in is a trivial task for everyone.
Great write-up, but in my opinion this is exactly the wrong way around.
That way, you don't gain anything from your "switch" up front.
Better to switch to Linux and keep the apps you know wherever possible. Office, Teams, Photoshop, Lightroom and many others are available as web apps now. For many others, there are versions ported to Linux or running well in Wine. Finally, Gnome Boxes makes it trivial to integrate a small 50GB Windows VM to run apps where there's no other option.
Then you can slowly migrate to Linux-specific open source tools, in your own time.
It helps if you can get away from an app-centric view of computing to a result-centric view:
You don't need MS Office, you want to create/edit documents, tables or presentations.
You don't need Photoshop, you want to edit images.
You don't need Outlook, you want to connect to Exchange.
Almost all tasks are possible to do on Linux if you change your workflow a bit. Some aren't, especially when you're forced to collaborate with others in a professional setting. In that case, you can still minimize your Windows usage to what's necessary, by using Wine, web apps, dual-booting, using 2 devices, running a Windows VM inside Linux, or running a Linux VM inside Windows, depending on your needs.
I get what you're trying to say but I disagree with this. Software can be a barrier to switching OS but it very much depends on the individual user's needs - it's not as easy as substituting open source for closed, and is only part of the difference anyway. For example, I use Outlook at work; Thunderbird is great but it is in no way a substitute for Outlook. Similarly, I use Microsoft Office 365 at work; OnlyOffice is in no way a substitute for an individual user (it can be for a whole business or for personal use, but not if you're tied in to an organisation or employer using Office). If you're tied into those platforms with work, then for occasional use you can just use the online versions of Microsoft Office in Linux via a web browser. And if you need to work from home or do more, then realistically you need to have Windows and access to the full suite installed locally.
But software does not preclude switching to Linux; for example I dual boot between Windows and Linux on my home PC. I have an M.2 drive for Windows and another M.2 drive for Linux. I rarely use Windows at all now, but when I do it's if for some reason I need to be doing work related stuff from home or rarely if I can't get a game working in Linux. In Linux I can do all my web browsing, social media, video streaming, music listening, even gaming and I know I'm doing so privately and securely.
I'd say the best way to switch to Linux is to switch to Linux. New users do not have to be "all in" - they can dual boot between Linux and Windows (or MacOS and Linux), and then have a low level of risk to try out the OS. It can even be beneficial in itself as they can compartmentalise work and free time by OS. And if they don't want to dual boot, then just try it out by virtualisation.
This is how switched, though I’d recommend properly platform agnostic software (Windows, Mac, and Linux support) since if you don’t find Linux proper works for your workflow, you could switch to a Mac.
Another thing which helped me was switching my Laptop first before my Desktop since if I had problems (which I did) I could loose my laptop and not worry about data loss.
As of now, I am 2 year with Linux on my laptop and 6 months on my desktop with no noticeable difference between my Windows experience and Linux.
It's actually hilarious how disconnected some Linux folks are lmao
The average person
- doesn't know what an operating system is
- can barely work with windows, has had many struggles learning windows
- is scared of change
- doesn't know about the existence of a BIOS
- will never be able to boot anything else but default by themselves
- doesn't know how to troubleshoot anything about computers
- literally does not know or care about the existence of Linux
I know these things are changing, but anyone saying people are able to switch to Linux by themselves and its easy and doable for the average person is fucking delusional, this post is one of the most reasonable takes I've seen on the sub
work while also troubleshooting
Let's not pretend that most people know how to troubleshoot. ^only^ ^a^ ^little^ ^/s^
The Steam Deck exists. It runs Linux. It's even an actual computer that you can plug a display, keyboard, and mouse into, and then gawk at the wonderful KDE Plasma desktop environment that this thing ships with. Sure, not all Steam games work on this thing, but you still have access to a lot of stuff.
But I suppose some folks will insist to install Windows on it, or get a Windows based alternative.
Bazzite has been astoundingly good for me. The only games that have issues are usually those with kernel-level anti-cheat and tbh I wouldn't play those anyways if I was running Windows (although I understand that's a deal breaker for some).
Support for Bazzite is fantastic too. Kyle and the rest of the folks on Discord are amazing!
Exactly, in reality people will use what's given to them. Just like windows, introduce it now and people would lose their fucking minds about how convoluted it is.
Transition costs are what we should be looking at, right now to install or use Linux you need someone with experience explaining it to you. Just like it was when PC's were becoming a thing. Don't have that person? Only alternative is MacOS or ChromeOS for them.
tl;dw:
Improvise (but not really). Adapt. Overcome.
Then again, I'd rather go for a much "cleaner" approach and suggest new users to "unlearn" the bad habits learnt by using Windows. Which is the "click once and forget" mentality, along many others.
Bro have you ever tried to get rid of a habit? It's fucking hard.
You missed entirely OP's point of sticking to things familiar and gradually adapting. Is faster to learn this way.
Bro have you ever tried to get rid of a habit? It’s fucking hard.
It's not hard when you take the first step to admit that a habit is bad and you need to get rid of it. Even if your subconscious tells you not to.
If anything, that is a great way to improve/learn self-control.
You missed entirely OP’s point
I "missed" it because embracing a bad habit and adapting outside things to it is not how you (properly) get things done.
tl;dw: You have a brain for a reason. Use it.
It's not hard when you take the first step to admit that a habit is bad and you need to get rid of it. Even if your subconscious tells you not to.
Yeah talked like a kid who haven't give up anything yet. That shit takes time and I got places to be.
tl;dw: You have a brain for a reason. Use it.
To read? Or to achieve conclusions without reading? Please use it before answering. Fucking moron.
My one amendment would be - forget Ubuntu and variants, just Debian is fine with older hardware. Less headaches and hassles, and some snaps.
I'd even say Mint Debian Edition over Ubuntu.
Because canonical removed packages from apt to prevent users to install their apps from apt instead. Firefox for example.
Firefox from Apt is a link to a snap!
askubuntu.com/questions/139938…
This is some bullshit level activity that I do not want.
I moved away from Microsoft to not have to deal with such an annoyance. Now canonical is doing it to their users.
How to install Firefox as a traditional deb package (without snap) in Ubuntu 22.04 or later versions?
As far as I see in the ongoing development for 22.04 Jammy, Firefox is a Snap package. The related Deb package in apt is just a shortcut/link to the that snap version. I prefer my installation not ...Ask Ubuntu
Linux Mint is the most Windows-like Linux distro.
Ubuntu is the most Microsoft-like Linux project.
The average old person perhaps. Young people are not afraid of change in most cases. They don't have that barrier of thinking learning something new is difficult. It just happens as they click around. And they have friends, and they ask their friends. Just like we did when we were young. I don't think you asked your dad how to use windows.. :)
I honestly think that if you would have Linux on laptops and you gave it to young people, they would have no problems finding out how to install programs and use the web browser. And that's the start of the learning experience.
Nix makes my head hurt
Ansible on desktop I could get on board with
Never had issue with this. For my work I've always used Blender 3D, Gimp, and Krita. The one thing that used to hold me back from using Linux was my Steam game library, but then Valve introduced Proton and all my reasons to stay on Windows evaporated.
Been a happy Linux user for a few years now.
... as someone who completely involuntary switches everyones computers I manage for some reason (ie extended family mostly) to Linux ... normies don't care that much.
No asking, no thinking, just Linux.
Yes.
But in the last 10+ years the
just set it up for them
is what popular distros just do out of the box, and they do it well.
Not new to Linux but recently I bought a new PC for dad and installed Tumbleweed ... and besides installing it (there is a fully automated default settings option even for that) I only configured the wallpaper image (bcs he likes it even it changed every hour or whatever). Not to mention how up-to-date it is and how seamlessly the updates are managed. Oh, and I had to manually install Signal & some Firefoxy extensions, but thats like just user stuff on basically any os.
Dual boot sucks donkey balls.
Install virtualbox and spin up a Windows VM on a Linux host.
You already use Draw to replace publisher in your list so why not use the rest of the Libre Office Suite?
Note: this belongs more in a Windows community than a Linux one. The people here would already use Gnu/Linux or Google/Linux
While LibreOffice has improved immensely over the years, its compatibility to Microsoft’s file formats is still a bit hit n miss at times, while OnlyOffice is a drop in replacement. It looks like MS Office and handles docx & Co. as well as MS Office, which might be a deciding factor for someone who has been on Windows for a long time and has all their documents in docx.
Also, I personally always get MS Office 2003 flashbacks when using LibreOffice, while file types don’t really matter to me.
Your point is proven by the adaptation of chromebooks, kids have no issue using them and neither should anyone else. It's not a Linux thing, it's a "what did you use the most"-thing. Some distros are ready to be shipped to consumers, bought a laptop with Linux pre-installed in 2018 (XPS 13).
You'll see mainstream use if stores are selling them in-store to consumers. You're up against the likes of Google, Microsoft or Apple when you try to pull that off.
PS: I believe in mainstream Linux use because money has a tendency to ruin everything, just think it will be much slower than us enthusiasts would want.
Sure, give a somewhat intelligent person between 20 and 40 a PC with Linux on it and they’ll figure it out. However, that doesn’t mean they have the patience of finding out how to install Linux in the first place.
And also, they‘ll figure out how to install apps, sure. Until they try to download the installer.exe for Microsoft Office because why would they know that it won’t work.
The problem isn’t, that they couldn’t figure it out, the problem is most people just want a working computer and not relearn what they already know or learn what an operating system is at all.
(And also, I remember reading some study, that a lot of late Gen Z and younger (the ones that didn’t grow up with Windows XP or earlier anymore) are actually less tech savvy than older generations because they’re used to not really having to troubleshoot tech)
Couldn't have said it better, and I've seen the same article as well!
Funny story a coworker told me is his father kept breaking his windows install in the weirdest ways, so he asked him if he'd try Linux and was very reluctant. He showed him his laptop and he said "Oh yeah I used this at work for 30 years!"
The solution that solves ODF compatibility issues is to not allow applications that do not adhere to the standard. In other words, to explicitly disallow the use of Microsoft products. It's not by accident that MS Office products are slightly fucking up documents, it's by design.
Since many companies use MS Office, when they do a pilot to see if they can use ODF, it ends up "causing problems". If anyone tries to use it in a mostly Office based workspace, it'll also "causes problems".
MS only has very good reason to always be just subtly off, and everything to lose if they aren't.
, well it is an issue to fuck up by design. There are third party plugins for ODF for MSO that work better than its own implementation.
I am forced to use MSO for work, but it's LO for everything else of mine.
Edit: One should also see what they can do to make Microsoft improve/fix their ODF implementation since it is an ISO standard. There has to be something to get that ball rolling.
should also see what they can do to make Microsoft improve/fix their ODF implementation since it is an ISO standard. There has to be something to get that ball rolling.
The answer to this should be the same as when some standard S is implemented in software X, Y, Z. If Z doesn't follow the standard, blacklist it until it does. That's the whole point of having a format standard, that it shouldn't matter what software you use.
If people, companies, institutions and governments have this stance and attitude, MS will need to compete on actual user experience, and not degrading the UX of the competition.
They'd get their shit together mighty fast. I'd expect them to lose too. Software to edit documents isn't complicated. If we can have things like blender, which I'd say is about 3-4 orders of magnitude a greater endeavour, for which use case has the inverse potential user base, it's pretty obvious that the only reason that MS Office is a thing (i.e. in raking in billions in license fees... 49 billion USD in 2022), is shady business practices.
It still pisses me off that in my country, when they had a group of experts make the evaluation of which document standard to follow, all experts agreed on ODF. But, because of shady MS money being thrown around, they ignored the recommendation, and went with DOCX.
software to edit documents isnt complicated
Write me a function to generate a Pivot Table with all of the features from Excel, from scratch
Open Letter to Apache OpenOffice - The Document Foundation Blog
Today marks 20 years since the source code to OpenOffice was released. And today we say: LibreOffice is the future of OpenOffice. Let’s all get behind it! It’s great to have a rich and diverse set of free and open source software projects.Mike Saunders (The Document Foundation)
.doc or .odt files are supposed to be edited. PDF files are supposed to be printed or filled (fill the blanks). If you require editing a pdf, someone in the process is making a mistake.
Strongly recommend a KDE-based distro if coming from Windows.
Gnome is too janky when you're used to the workflow in Windows. It's almost like Windows 8, which nobody uses if they can help it.
KDE is just way more familiar.
Fuck all that.
Install Linux, any flavor. Install virtualbox, and set up a Windows VM. Go ahead and install any of your windows bullshit on that VM. That's your crutch, your failsafe: a windows instance that you don't have to leave Linux to access.
Save snapshots before and after any changes, so if/when it goes to shit, you can roll it back to where it was still working.
Just be aware that windows has a bad habit of fucking up for Linux when you do. Which sounds like it shouldn't be possible, right?
Windows can claim hardware resources that it doesn't release properly, so your WiFi adapter doesn't work in Linux, but works fine in Windows. Windows also (used to, at least) "correct" a boot partition, because, I presume, it sees something "unknown". Oh, and the system clock might be off every time you switch between one and the other, because windows thinks it makes sense to write the current timezone value and not UTC.
Those kinds of things.
Another option if you have a laptop and desktop is to test the waters slowly with the laptop, and keep your desktop as is. It's what I did for a long while to get used to things on Linux.
If there is a critical problem with my Linux instalation on my laptop, it's OK because all the real stuff I care about is still on the desktop. So I'm free to wipe the laptop at a moments notice. It's the easiest way to learn in my experience.
You know there is almost more stuff advising how to switch to Linux than there is stuff for existing users or people with their feet in both worlds. There are plenty of people who used Linux but only for server, or as a dual boot, or on one machine but not another. I think they would benefit from advice on how to fully switch over or how to use both systems to full effectiveness together. Like I only fully switched to Linux maybe 6 months ago after going back and forth for years.
We also need to be thinking about how to get people from beginner level to intermediate, and then on to advanced levels. There isn't a clear progression path forward. It could be something like: Linux Mint -> Arch -> Nix. I believe projects like Arco Linux are striving to fulfill this gap from beginner to advanced.
Sober is a new way to play Roblox on Linux from the Vinegar team
Sober is a new way to play Roblox on Linux from the Vinegar team
While Roblox does still remain blocked on Linux with Wine, as usual the community finds a way. The Vinegar team recently revealed Sober, a currently closed-source specialized runtime for the Android version of Roblox.Liam Dawe (GamingOnLinux)
Thanks for your reply :)
I think the problem with roblox goes far beyond the individual freedom to access a program.
What we both say isn't mutually exclusive. But I do think that gaming Linux communities could take a stand on the kind of gaming world we want and the kind we don't want...
Looking at the downvotes I get here and setting aside people who don't like/understand irony, I feel either there are a bunch of roblox-fan (I sincerely hope it's not it) or there are people like you who took the individual freedom to use a computer and apply it with crushing dogmatism (but without taking the time to expend on it like you did). But do gnu/Linux communities have to be chain to this ? I'm not sure. When twitter was shit, do we just said 'never mind it runs on Linux, we're free.' ? Or reddit or Facebook ? No we discouraged actively to use those platforms and we build alternative that are better for people. Here what do we have ? A gaming platform with predatory practices toward children and we give it access to our computer without even the game studio had to lift a finger for it. A new (and small yes, but still) market of users for what you called yourself a 'asshole game studio'.
Ladybird Browser Team Selects Swift as Preferred Language
Ladybird Browser Team Selects Swift as Preferred Language
Andreas Kling announces Swift as Ladybird's future language for better safety and ergonomics. Full transition awaits Swift 6.Bobby Borisov (Linuxiac)
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But Rust is rather good at that, too, via cxx. Mozilla similarly had a C++ codebase where they wanted to integrate Rust.
Granted, this is raw theory. Maybe Swift is better in practice. But yeah, to me personally, it would need to be massively better to pretty much give up on open-source contributions.
CXX — safe interop between Rust and C++
CXX — safe interop between Rust and C++ by David Tolnay. This library provides a safe mechanism for calling C++ code from Rust and Rust code from C++.CXX
pretty much give up on open-source contributions.
You do realise that most major FOSS projects have an iOS app, right? The post I was looking at before this was for a new jellyfin app, small individual dev, has an iOS beta out. For a comparison, there are 9.1 million files on github in Swift, and 11.3 million in Rust.
As well, as far as contributions, Swift was designed from the getgo to be incredibly approachable for novices. While Rust is notorious for being unapproachable. Like I get the anti-Apple circlejerk is strong, but Swift is licensed under Apache 2.0, it's FOSS, so this argument is kind of ridiculous. Especially considering how much of Google's FOSS just gets a free pass.
Most FOSS projects weren't allowed on the app store due to licencing, and although I think this has changed its also probably pushed off a lot of Foss devs.
Number of files doesn't really mean much more than number of lines though, especially between languages
That information is well over a decade out of date. I remember when VLC had those issues. In a rare capitulation for Apple, they adjusted their terms to allow copyleft licenses.
As far as "probably" causing FOSS devs to stay away from the platform. Like I said, most FOSS projects have an iOS app. Hell, Jellyfin now has several FOSS iOS apps. Most of the iOS Lemmy apps that are available are FOSS, heck some of those are even iOS-only.
Like, I'm sorry, but this is about facts and not just your feelings. You said before that the choice of Swift over Rust would "massively" affect FOSS contributions while providing zero evidence to back that up. Sure, you're right, number of files doesn't mean much, but at least I provided a fact.
My personal opinion is that most FOSS developers are put off by "yet another chromium fork", and will flock to this project as a breath of fresh air, no matter whether it's Swift or Rust.
I agree with what you said but there is next to no chance a new browser engine from scratch will be able to challenge Blink's dominance.
Google's power comes from a combination of unfortunate factors. They have limitless money to support Chrome's development. They are one of the biggest vendors of online services. They are one of the biggest drivers of new web standard adoption.
Breaking this monopoly will require regulation and enforcement, not a "tech visionary" and a GitHub co-founder playing hero.
My point is that no one talks about using regulations to curb Google's browser monopoly ever. Even the anti-trust suit against them was related to their search offering. This relates to how Mozilla is beholden to Google for funding, and other players in the game being big corporations themselves.
politicians won’t do anything
Politicians can be made to do stuff. It is not always easy or even possible but activism sometimes works. Either way it is more likely to work than a toy browser for a niche segment of nerds becoming a viable alternative.
I do get your point, and in a perfect world that would be the solution. However, there are too many considerations to keep in mind with this:
1.- it's usually the nerdy crowd that is willing to go out of their way to resist monopolies like this. The rest of the people cannot be bothered with this because they risk missing an Instagram post of a dog scratching a carpet. So, creating a solution geared at nerds is highly likely to achieve the desired effect.
2.- doing something like this is still doing something, which is much more than anyone can expect from "regulators". Librewolf, Mulkvad browser, Brave, etc, are there because a bunch of nerds did them, nothing was being regulated.
3.- in every post about enshitification I've seen the last couple of years the need to regulate these companies always comes up. This has had little to no impact in getting those regulations even started.
Those are only 3 of the many reasons why we do need more of these independent and nerd focused applications. If we didn't have them, then we'd be unequivocally fucked.
Lemmy and Mastodon, what was/is being regulated to make them happen instead of fakebook, Quitter and fucking reddit? Nothing at all.
You make a good point, but the chances of anything happening on the regulatory side of things in the near future is basically null. I hope I'm wrong.
Ladybird Browser Team Selects Swift as Preferred Language
Andreas Kling announces Swift as Ladybird's future language for better safety and ergonomics. Full transition awaits Swift 6.ByBobby BorisovAugust 11, 2024
Ladybird Browser Team Selects Swift as Preferred Language
Ladybird is a new name in the Linux ecosystem you might not be familiar with. So, let’s briefly explain what it’s all about.It’s a web browser initiative, funded by $1 million, spearheaded by GitHub co-founder and former CEO Chris Wanstrath and tech visionary Andreas Kling. It seeks to challenge the status quo with a new browser written from scratch, completely independent of corporate interests. Our article on the subject has more on this. Now, back to the topic.
Over the past few months, Ladybird’s developers have been experimenting by rewriting different parts of the browser project in various languages. The outcome was clear: Swift emerged as the preferred choice among the team. According to Kling, the feedback favored Swift for its modern features and robust safety protocols.
Another significant advantage of Swift is its ongoing improvements in interoperability with C++. This development means Ladybird can adopt Swift gradually, without extensive rewrites, easing the transition and reducing potential integration issues.
Now, I’m sure you associate Swift with app development for Apple devices, where it’s been the go-to technology. But recently, that’s started to change.
What I mean is despite its strong associations with Apple, Swift has been making strides towards independence. It has been reorganized under a separate GitHub organization, distancing itself from Apple-specific projects.
This shift, coupled with better support for non-Apple platforms and diverse development environments, positions Swift as a more versatile and broadly applicable programming language.
Looking ahead, Ladybird plans to implement Swift once version 6 exits beta this fall. The upcoming release promises compatibility with the latest versions of Clang, essential for integrating Swift with Ladybird’s existing C++ code.
It’s worth noting that no browser engine has yet been developed using Swift, making this project particularly challenging. As things are still in the early planning stages, we shouldn’t expect to see any initial versions of the Ladybird browser this year.
A more realistic timeline suggests an early preview release could happen in 2025, though the developers have not yet committed to specific dates.
For more information, refer to Kling’s post on X.
Bobby Borisov
Bobby BorisovBobby, an editor-in-chief at Linuxiac, is a Linux professional with over 20 years of experience. With a strong focus on Linux and open-source software, he has worked as a Senior Linux System Administrator, Software Developer, and DevOps Engineer for small and large multinational companies.
Servo, the embeddable, independent, memory-safe, modular, parallel web rendering engine
Servo is a web rendering engine written in Rust, with WebGL and WebGPU support, and adaptable to desktop, mobile, and embedded applications.Servo
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I've read through your links. They don't have much to do with the codebase itself, but with protecting the trademarks.
From what I read, you're free to change whatever you want. You just can't go around using their trademarked names for your modified version.
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That... is not a restriction on freedom 3. You could complain about your inability to use the rust name for anything you want but that is not the same thing as your ability to distribute modified versions of the software. It is also fairly standard practice for foss software to restrict the use of such trademarks. For example, Gnome does pretty much the same thin. FreeBSD as well. Libre Office also has similar restrictions, although they are defined more nebulously. It is not clear to me what usages are allowed with the Linux trademark but they certainly do restrict who can use it and for what and you must get permission before using it. See also, about trademarks in FOSS: lexology.com/library/detail.as…
The software is free. The trademarks are not. The four freedoms are about the software and not about trademarks. You could fork Rust and call it Corrosion, just like people have forked Firefox and called it Waterfox.
The Intersection of Trademarks and Open Source
When open source developers call us asking to confirm that they can use the trademark or name of an open source project for their newly forked…Chiara Portner (Hopkins & Carley)
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Please read this and try again.
gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.…
Rules about how to package a modified version are acceptable, if they don't substantively limit your freedom to release modified versions, or your freedom to make and use modified versions privately. Thus, it is acceptable for the license to require that you change the name of the modified version, remove a logo, or identify your modifications as yours. As long as these requirements are not so burdensome that they effectively hamper you from releasing your changes, they are acceptable; you're already making other changes to the program, so you won't have trouble making a few more.
What is Free Software? - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation
Since 1983, developing the free Unix style operating system GNU, so that computer users can have the freedom to share and improve the software they use.www.gnu.org
Independent of corporate interests
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Picks one of the few languages created due to corporate interests
This will die on the vine
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Dude, if you're being obtuse on purpose because you have an ax to grind against Rust, try a different approach. You're not getting anywhere, clearly by the fact that no one agrees with you.
If you don't like that Rust has a restricted trademark, then call that out instead of trying to label the software and it's license as non-free. It's literally called out in my source that name restrictions ipso facto does not violate freedom 3.
But if you genuinely believe that the implementation of the Rust language and it's trademark is burdensome to create a fork, and you want people to believe you, then you gotta bring receipts. Remember, the benchmark that we both quoted is that it "effectively hampers you from releasing your changes". It being "not a piece of cake" doesn't cut it.
Hint: Google Rust forks since their existence also undermines your claim.
Good luck.
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It isn't, if you're already familiar with Rust. That's all I'm saying. Swift usage is largely isolated to Apple's ecosystem, which doesn't have a ton of overlap with the open-source ecosystem.
And I actually disagree that Rust is overhyped, because it can be used for creating libraries which can be called from virtually any other language, like you can with C and C++.
Which means you're not locked into the Rust/Apple/whatever ecosystem, but instead could be coding the next SQLite without needing to be fluent in footgun.
From what I can tell, this would theoretically be possible in Swift, but hasn't been implemented: forums.swift.org/t/formalizing…
But even if Rust was the most overhyped garbage, it would still be garbage that people are familiar with. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Formalizing @cdecl
For a while now (possibly since Swift 1?) we've had an undocumented attribute @_cdecl that exposes a Swift function to C. Several years ago (and while still at Apple), I alluded to the remaining decisions to we had to make to make @cdecl a reality.Swift Forums
Rust would have been good in the long term but it'd take a long time to get to release.
Swift mates sense for rapid deployment.
Go would have been my choice concurrency would maybe help with lots of tabs
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LibreSpeed - Speed Test
Unfortunately doesn't quite reach the speeds speedtest.net can hit, but still cool to have a tool like this
GitHub - openspeedtest/Speed-Test: SpeedTest by OpenSpeedTest™ is a Free and Open-Source HTML5 Network Performance Estimation Tool Written in Vanilla Javascript and only uses built-in Web APIs like XMLHttpRequest (XHR), HTML, CSS, JS, & SVG. No Third-Part
SpeedTest by OpenSpeedTest™ is a Free and Open-Source HTML5 Network Performance Estimation Tool Written in Vanilla Javascript and only uses built-in Web APIs like XMLHttpRequest (XHR), HTML, CSS, J...GitHub
Bluetooth Audio Issues when launching a game?
Hi there, I just acquired myself the Sennheiser Momentum 4, mainly for using while communting + work. But figured i'd try them out for some gaming too. They work just fine when watching YT or any video, but when I launch a game the audio quality changes significantly. I have no idea how or why its doing it, nor how to fix it. I've tried all of these different audio profile options, but all of them make the audio either distorted, weak, or make it sound like the audio is trapped inside a room... Anyone know how to go about this? Audio works fine with my normal non-wireless headset.
My system is running Bazzite.
Appreciate any pointers to how to resolve this.
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Likely what is happening is that the game is probing audio devices and triggering the mic on your headphones to get picked up. This switches them into the "headset" profile which has awful audio quality. I don't know why the UI isn't showing that, make sure you are checking while the game is running and the audio sounds bad.
If you want your headphone mic to work there is not much choice. There isn't a standard bluetooth profile with good audio and mic. If you never want to use your headphone mic you can probably configure some advanced settings in your audio manager (probably PulseAudio or PipeWire).
Can you tell me what that setting is? I have the same issue as OP
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i think it's this
bluetooth.autoswitch-to-headset-profile = { description = "Whether to autoswitch to BT headset profile or not" type = "bool" default = true
Edit: for those looking at this thread changing that true to false works, although you do need to restart the computer
wiki.archlinux.org/title/Bluet…
Sections 3.3 or 3.4
I did 3.4 to disable the headset profiles cause generally it's ass
This may be a nonsense suggestion but is the game trying to activate the headphone mic?
If so this could be switching it to a different mode and cutting your headset audio quality in half.
EDIT: two other people suggested the same thing at the same time, never mind :)
GIMP 3.0 Enters String Freeze, Inching Closer To Release
GIMP 3.0 has been more than one decade in the making as the port from GTK2 to GTK3, also transitioning away from Python 2 to Python 3 support, and a wealth of other improvements from the UI to lower down into enhancing this open-source Photoshop alternative.The GIMP project announced on X/Twitter today that they have entered the string freeze for this much anticipated release.
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Isn't this the version where they pinky promised there will be CMYK support?
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From developer.gimp.org/core/roadma… for GIMP 3.0:
Space invasion (work in progress):Various color management improvements, CMYK support (not as core image format, but import/export and picking/choosing/viewing)…
That's the one! Didn't bother finding the source myself, thanks for going the extra bit kind stranger!
Looking forward to eventually burying the old "sticking with Adobe because GIMP doesn't support CMYK" argument.
Fuck yeah! Go GIMP! Also announced on Mastodon fwiw:
floss.social/@GIMP/11299555313…
I'm super excited about 3.0 🪇
Today we entered string freeze 📜🧊 for #GIMP 3.0.0!One more step towards the next major version of GIMP! 🎨
#GIMP3 #FreeSoftware #graphics
I know people like it, but I agree.
And as silly as it sounds, I think the name is a big part of why businesses haven't ever wanted to touch the project or invest in it.
Imagine telling your average upper management guy or board member that you want your workers to use software called gimp. They're probably not gonna want to hear you out.
Anecdotally I know of a local NHS practice that refused to use GIMP, and was even sceptical of other subsequent suggestions of other FOSS due to the terrible impression they got from the GIMP name during a pitch to use more FOSS.
I get it's their identity, their project. Nobody has the right to dictate the name but them. But it's also fair to point out that they probably shot themselves in the foot by giving their software a juvenile and weirdly fetishy name.
Why doesn't someone just fork it and change the name?
Like, I dunno, "Super Human Image Treatment" or "Consistently Lovely Image Treatment Oriented for Real Imaging Stars"
Actually, someone did, changing the name to "Glimpse". They announced it as an explicit fork that would continue development under the new name.
As far as I know, that's as far as they got.
GIMP open source image editor forked to fix 'problematic' name
Release the GIMP: Glimpse project founded to avoid branding that some find offensiveTim Anderson (The Register)
Shop as in workshop, presumably.
I don't think that's quite equivalent to having your name be gimp, which means, depending on definition, a fetishist in a full body latex suit who generally wants to be degraded or injured for sexual satisfaction, or a slur term for the severely disabled.
A few people? It's a widely known term.
To most people around the world, gimp means that photo editor.
Lmao no it doesn't. Almost nobody knows about this project. People know Photoshop.
Been tried, already died.
GIMP Fork ‘Glimpse’ on Pause, No More Updates Planned
Development on GIMP fork Glimpse is on pause due to a lack of contributors able to support the image editor's growing user base. More details in this post.Joey Sneddon (OMG! Ubuntu!)
I think you're vastly overestimating how many people know about a random FOSS image editor. Gimp is not a household name.
When most people hear the word "gimp", they likely have something akin to this in mind (not an image editor):
IMO, that hinders adoption and certainly hinders financial support. It's an amusing name, granted, but it's not a good one if you wish to be taken seriously.
I have no idea what you are talking about.
When I saw this image my first thought was "WTF?" I have seen people complain about the name before but when I try to look up gimp to see what they are talking about I just get gimp the software. What even is that image?
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I tried looking it up on Wikipedia and there was this page
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bondag…
That actually makes more sense although I'm pretty sure most people aren't into BDSM. Gimp stands for gnu image manipulation program so it has nothing to do with whatever this is.
Also it's specifically named as a reference to the gimp from pulp fiction as it originally came out around the same.
It's fine for a hobby project but GIMP is well past that now and it's a really bad look in a professional environment.
Yes, I know it stands for GNU Image Manipulation Software.
People in general don't know that.
When they hear gimp, they think of a fetishist in a gimp suit, or a slur for a person with a severe disability.
Both are bad. I also wouldn't have my software share a name, even as an acronym, with other slurs or fetish stuff.
Imagine you're a manager high up in a company. Someone comes to you and says "sir, I really think we should be using PAKI instead of [proprietary software alternative]", and have you considered PISSPLAY instead of [proprietary software alternative]?"
You wouldn't even look into it. You'd reject it outright. Or at least most would.
Again, it's the GIMP team's right to name it how they want. But the name is dumb, puts people off, stifles investment opportunity, and makes the whole project look like a joke at a cursory glance.
Not everyone is an emglish speaker so not everyone know what gimp means.
The name isn't the problem, it's that gimp is hard to use and has a weird UI
The name is definitely a problem.
They'd be much more likely to have adoption in the industry, increased development, more donations if they had a name that companies and governments aren't driven away by.
I know some people in the Linux world think branding doesn't matter, but it absolutely does.
On a more serious note, I actually liked the name Glimpse. But they did more than just renaming the project. They had plans to make it very different from Gimp too. So it probably died because of being too ambitious.
port from GTK2 to GTK3
Migrating from an already rooten toolkit to a toolkit that is dead since a few years.
Nice.
They have been migrating to GTK3 since before GTK4 was out.
I am sure they will stay behind but future porting should be easier.
That said, non-GNOME GTK apps seem to be considering sticking with GTK3 anyway ( to avoid libadwaita ).
It’s almost like the whole customized apps to fit into the GTK framework concept creates too much added work and needs to be rethought.
I don’t understand why someone should choose any GTK variant when they’ll have to refactor and rewrite their application every few years.
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in reply to Kajika • • •Publishing lock files of running services would be a big security risk for the service owner as it gives an easily parsable way for an attacker to check if your bundle includes any package versions with vulnerabilities.
You then also have tools like snyk used by many big organisations which has the ability to patch dependencies before the actual dependency published the patch themselves. This would lead to a version not corresponding with the bundled code.
In fact given bundling is pretty ubiquitous, but infinitely configurable at this point, even validating the integrity of the bundle Vs the versions in a lock file is a problem that will be hard to achieve. It's kinda like wanting to untoast bread.
Also given many JS projects have a lock file which describes both the deficiencies of the front end bundle, server & build tooling, there is a risk of leaking information about that too (it's best practice to make as little as possible about your server configuration publicly viewable)
IMO, the solution to this problem today is to use a modern, updated brows
... show morePublishing lock files of running services would be a big security risk for the service owner as it gives an easily parsable way for an attacker to check if your bundle includes any package versions with vulnerabilities.
You then also have tools like snyk used by many big organisations which has the ability to patch dependencies before the actual dependency published the patch themselves. This would lead to a version not corresponding with the bundled code.
In fact given bundling is pretty ubiquitous, but infinitely configurable at this point, even validating the integrity of the bundle Vs the versions in a lock file is a problem that will be hard to achieve. It's kinda like wanting to untoast bread.
Also given many JS projects have a lock file which describes both the deficiencies of the front end bundle, server & build tooling, there is a risk of leaking information about that too (it's best practice to make as little as possible about your server configuration publicly viewable)
IMO, the solution to this problem today is to use a modern, updated browser that sandboxes execution, run a adblocker with appropriate trusted blocklists for what you're avoiding, try to only use sites you trust & if you can, push web developers to use CSP & SRI to prevent malicious actors from injecting code into their sites without them knowing. Many sites already take advantage of these features, so if you trust the owner, you should be able to trust the code running on the page. If you don't trust the owner with client side JS, you probably shouldn't trust them with whatever they're running on the server side too.
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in reply to 9point6 • • •I believe you missed the point, I am not in defense of
Security through obscurity(en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security…), quiet the opposite.The point: "[...] risk for the service owner as it gives an easily parsable way for an attacker to check [...]" is well known and not the discussion here. You can choose close source for 'security' this is opensource community so I am wondering about such a tool.
secrecy of the design or implementation as the main method of providing security
Contributors to Wikimedia projects (Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.)9point6
in reply to Kajika • • •Maybe I have missed your point, but based on how I've understood what you've described I think you may have also missed mine, I was more pointing out how the practicalities prevent such a tool from being possible from a few perspectives. I lead with security just because that would be the deal breaker for many service owners, it's simply infosec best practice to not leak the information such a tool would require.
Your filtering idea would require cooperation from those service owners to change what they're currently doing, right?
Perhaps I've completely got the wrong end of the stick with what you're suggesting though, happy to be corrected
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in reply to 9point6 • • •Thanks for your answer.
First I don't even grasp what a "service owner" is.
Second, for JS front-end openness there are already a bunch of app (web, android) that are open-source and secured. Everything has dependencies nowadays, this doesn't prevent good security. Think all the python app and their dependencies, rust, android... even c\c++ packages are built with dependencies and security updates are necessary (bash had security issues).
I think with JS scripts it's actually even easier to have good security because the app is ran in our web browser so the only possible attacker is the website we are visiting itself. If they are malicious then the close-sourced JS script is even worse. Unless you count 3rd party scripts embedded that bad dev uses in their website without even thinking about trusting them. That is also awful in both open or close source environment.
So even having imperfect security (which happens regardless to openness), who is the attacker here? I would rather run js script on my end if the code can be checked.
9point6
in reply to Kajika • • •The people who build & run the software & servers that serve the website, who amongst other things have an interest in keeping the service available, secure, performant, etc.
Particularly with laws like GDPR, these services owners are motivated to be as secure as practically possible otherwise they could receive a bankrupting fine should they end up leaking someone's data. You'll never be able to convince anyone to lower the security of their threat model for that reason alone, before anything else.
The code published and the code running on a server cannot be treated as equivalent for several reasons, but here's two big ones:
Firstly, there's the similar issue as with compiled binaries in other languages: it's tough (or impossible) to verify that the code published is the same code that's running. Secondly the bundled and minified versions of websites are rarely p
... show moreThe people who build & run the software & servers that serve the website, who amongst other things have an interest in keeping the service available, secure, performant, etc.
Particularly with laws like GDPR, these services owners are motivated to be as secure as practically possible otherwise they could receive a bankrupting fine should they end up leaking someone's data. You'll never be able to convince anyone to lower the security of their threat model for that reason alone, before anything else.
The code published and the code running on a server cannot be treated as equivalent for several reasons, but here's two big ones:
Firstly, there's the similar issue as with compiled binaries in other languages: it's tough (or impossible) to verify that the code published is the same code that's running. Secondly the bundled and minified versions of websites are rarely published anyway, at most you get the constituent code and a dependency list for something completely open source. This is the bit I referred to before as trying to untoast bread, the browser gets a bundle that can't practically be reversed back into that list of parts and dependencies in a general purpose way. You'd need the whole picture to be able to do any kind of filtering here.
The only possible attacker is not the website itself (though it's a lot more limited if the site implements CSP & SRI, as mentioned in my other comment). XSS is a whole category of attacks which leverage an otherwise trusted site to do something malicious, this is one of the main reasons you would run something like noscript.
There have also been several instances in recent years of people contributing to (or outright taking over) previously trusted open source projects and sneaking in something malicious. This then gets executed and/or bundled during development in anything that uses it and updates to the compromised version before people find the vulnerability.
Finally there are network level attacks which thankfully are a lot less common these days due to HTTPS adoption (and to be a broken record, CSP & SRI), but if you happen to use public WiFi, there's a whole heap of ways a malicious actor can mess with what your browser ultimately loads.
Kajika
in reply to 9point6 • • •OK I got it, you are completely out of the loop here.
You do not grasp the idea of NoScript and other JS filtering extension. This is not about server code, your all arguments is baseless here.
By the way JS refered to Javascript and not NodeJS.
Anyway I got you whole company/business talk about "keeping the service available, secure, performant" and "GDPR [...] bankrupting fine"... yeah lemmy.world.
9point6
in reply to Kajika • • •No need to get aggravated, I completely grasp it, you've possibly misunderstood or not entirely read my comment if that's your takeaway.
I'm not talking about server code specifically, I'm going through the stages between the source code repo(s) and what your browser ends up receiving when you request a site.
NodeJS is relevant here because it's what runs nearly all major JS bundlers (webpack, vite, etc), which are what produces the code that ultimately runs in the browser for most websites you use. Essentially in a mathematical sense, the full set of dependencies for that process are a part of the input to the function that outputs the JS bundle(s).
I'm not really sure what you mean with that last part, really, anyone hosting something on the internet has to care about that stuff, not just businesses. GDPR can target individuals just as easily as for-profit companies, it's about the safety of the data, not who has it—I'm assuming you would not want to go personally bankrupt due to a deliberate neglect of security? Similarly, if you have a website that does
... show moreNo need to get aggravated, I completely grasp it, you've possibly misunderstood or not entirely read my comment if that's your takeaway.
I'm not talking about server code specifically, I'm going through the stages between the source code repo(s) and what your browser ends up receiving when you request a site.
NodeJS is relevant here because it's what runs nearly all major JS bundlers (webpack, vite, etc), which are what produces the code that ultimately runs in the browser for most websites you use. Essentially in a mathematical sense, the full set of dependencies for that process are a part of the input to the function that outputs the JS bundle(s).
I'm not really sure what you mean with that last part, really, anyone hosting something on the internet has to care about that stuff, not just businesses. GDPR can target individuals just as easily as for-profit companies, it's about the safety of the data, not who has it—I'm assuming you would not want to go personally bankrupt due to a deliberate neglect of security? Similarly, if you have a website that doesn't hit the performance NFRs that search engines set, no one will ever find it in search results because it'll be down on page 100. You will not be visiting websites which don't care about this stuff.
Either way, all of that is wider reasoning for the main point which we're getting away from a bit, so I'll try to summarise as best I can:
Basically unless you intend your idea to only work on entirely open source websites (which comprise a tiny percentage of the web), you're going to have to contend with these JS bundles, which as I've gone into, is basically an insurmountable task due to not having the complete set of inputs.
If you do only intend it to work with those completely open source websites, then crack on, I guess. There's still what looks to me like a crazy amount of things to figure out in order to create a filter that won't be able to work with nearly all web traffic, but if that's still worth it to you, then don't let me convince you otherwise.
Edit: typo
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in reply to Kajika • • •I'm a full-stack software developer working in the financial sector, their statement is factual.
Companies will never want to take on liability that has the potential to bankrupt them. It is in their best interest to not reveal the version of libraries they are using as some versions may have publicly known vulnerabilities, and it would make it incredibly easy for attackers to build an exploit chain if they knew the exact versions being used.
Securing client code is just as important as securing server code, as you don't want to expose your users to potential XSS attacks that could affect the way the page gets displayed, or worse, leak their credentials to a third party. If this happened in the EU or some parts of Canada, and it's been found that the company reduced their threat model "for the sake of openness", they would likely be fined into bankruptcy or forced to leave the market.
Unfortunately, this is one of those cases where your interests and ethics will never be aligned with those of service owners as they are held to a certain standard by privacy laws and other regulations.
loathsome dongeater
in reply to Kajika • • •Can't say that what you are looking for is common. This is the first time I've heard this requirement bring described.
Librejs started a long while back. I'm no js historian but I reckon things have changed a ton in jsland since then. My guess is that there assumption is that since JavaScript files are just scripts, they contain the source code and therefore all it checks for is is the license.
I don't know at which point things like obfuscation through minification and systems like webpack came along. I'm only theorising but I feel librejs has not been able to keep up with the times.