Okay, big news for everyone with a WordPress blog, including people with a free blog on wordpress.com!
You can now turn *any* WordPress blog into a Fediverse server which can be followed from Mastodon etc.
I've updated the instructions on how to do this at:
➡️ fedi.tips/wordpress-turning-yo…
Just to repeat, this is now available to ALL WordPress blogs including free tier ones. The free tier has slightly different instructions, but effect is same.
(via wordpress.com/blog/2023/10/11/…)
Engage a Wider Audience With ActivityPub on WordPress.com
The fediverse has arrived at WordPress.com.Matthias Pfefferle (WordPress.com News)
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Seth 🎙️:jawn_sg:
in reply to FediTips has moved! • • •时变局正宗青柠派🍋🥧 :verified:
in reply to FediTips has moved! • • •Expert Plus 🍀
in reply to FediTips has moved! • • •FediTips has moved!
in reply to Expert Plus 🍀 • • •@expert
My sites are powered by WordPress but they're not blogs.
The Fediverse compatibility is for WordPress blogs, i.e. sites that post regular new articles rather than a single set of static pages.
Expert Plus 🍀
in reply to FediTips has moved! • • •Martin Dougiamas
in reply to FediTips has moved! • • •Anyone know how to set the profile picture, header etc for the account?
There's no obvious way yet in the ActivityPub plugin.
Mastodon Migration
in reply to Martin Dougiamas • • •The profile picture and description are picked up from the WordPress icon image and description entered in Settings >>> General
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in reply to Mastodon Migration • • •@mastodonmigration @martin
Thank you! 🙏
Mastodon Migration
in reply to FediTips has moved! • • •@martin
Note it can take a while to update. Maybe unfollowing and refollowing helps it propagate, not sure.
TechyDad
in reply to FediTips has moved! • • •I've been thinking of writing short stories and novellas and releasing them for free. I don't like the idea of posting them to some service where I won't control my data, though. This is good news. I could spin up a WordPress site, post my stories there, and link it up with the Fediverse to increase visibility.
(I actually have a WordPress site I was going to use for this so I might add this plugin to test it out.)
Jürgen Hubert
in reply to FediTips has moved! • • •I switched it on for my own blog.
But are only new posts shared as an ActivityPub post, or are older posts converted as well?
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in reply to Jürgen Hubert • • •@juergen_hubert
If you copy and paste the URL of a blog post into your Mastodon search box, you should see the post appear if it is converted.
However, bear in mind servers will only notice any kind of Fediverse post if at least one person on that server has followed the account at time of publication or shared the post.
Jürgen Hubert
in reply to FediTips has moved! • • •Sparky-Luna :neocat_flag_lesbian:
in reply to FediTips has moved! • • •FediTips has moved!
in reply to Sparky-Luna :neocat_flag_lesbian: • • •@Sparky
I don't know, but guess you could try?
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Unknown parent • • •@weirdwriter @socialaudiodescription.com
Good point.
I am not sure, but will take a look and update the article if I find out.
Will reply again when I know more.
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in reply to FediTips has moved! • • •@weirdwriter
Okay, I'm not sure what kind of hosting you have, but on the plugin for independently hosted sites you can change the blog's main address by going to Settings > ActivityPub > Settings > Change Blog Profile ID
I don't have a wordpress.com account so I'm not sure if that differs, or if changing the name is possible?
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Unknown parent • • •@weirdwriter
Yeah, it looks like the name change is only available through blogs that use the plug-in?
It's good you highlighted this, it should save confusion for other users.
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in reply to FediTips has moved! • • •@weirdwriter
By the way, can I ask if you get new block types added to your lowest paid plan?
If you try creating a new post are there any blocks available called "Fediverse followers" or "Follow me on the Fediverse"?
Mother Bones
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Unknown parent • • •@weirdwriter
Ok, thanks. Guess this is another feature that is only on the plug-in?
It looks like because the free/lower tiers don't have plug-ins, wordpress.com have done a simplified feature set with the most essential functions but left a lot of the plug-in's options out.
The WebFinger plugin optionally improves the federation side of things, but I am not a developer so I don't know exactly what it does. Also, I don't know whether its functionality is included in the free/low tier system?
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in reply to FediTips has moved! • • •@weirdwriter
It's possible that they've built this into the free/low tier behind the scenes.
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Unknown parent • • •@rscottjones
I'm not sure... I would assume they will see it as replies?
Would be interested to hear!
Mastodon Migration
in reply to FediTips has moved! • • •If you are new to WordPress and want a detailed step by step tutorial on how to do this here is a post on How to Create a WordPress blog attached to the Fediverse >>> mastodon.online/@mastodonmigra…
To see how this all works follow @mastodonmigration.wordpress.com to see all new posts from this new Mastodon Migration Blog >>> mastodonmigration.wordpress.co…
Note: You will only see new posts from the blog here.
#WordPress
If you are new to WordPress and want a detailed step by step tutorial on how to do this here is a post on How to Create a WordPress blog attached to the Fediverse >>> mastodon.online/@mastodonmigra…
To see how this all works follow @mastodonmigration.wordpress.com to see all new posts from this new Mastodon Migration Blog >>> mastodonmigration.wordpress.co…
Note: You will only see new posts from the blog here.
#WordPress
Mastodon Migration
2023-10-13 06:31:16
Joe
in reply to FediTips has moved! • • •mʕ•ﻌ•ʔm bitPickup
in reply to FediTips has moved! • • •Hi, just read you piece about the #wordpress #fediVers conector via #activityPub by @pfefferle and automattic.
I like it and first of all that it exists but it's important in the introduction to point out the limitations.
From the fediverse I'm used to real interaction and from what I could see/test there is no two way communication possible.
The fediVerse can comment on blogs but the blog response isn't federated into the fediVers and that contact.
Is that still the case?
#WP
FinchHaven
in reply to mʕ•ﻌ•ʔm bitPickup • • •@bitpickup
That #wordpress is the new feature that is going to save #Mastodon and the #Fediverse is the lastest hot-techy-take
So far all I've seen is:
1) people talking about how their blog is now "on" Mastodon -- but with only words
2) people talking about how their blog is now "on" Mastodon and posting a link that is no different than any link to any web site anywhere
3) a very few people talking about how their blog is now "on" Mastodon and posting a link that takes me to their blog, where I can read but cannot comment because it's not connected back to Mastodon in any way except by my 'back' arrow
I've seen one case where apparently I *could* comment but I did not -- mostly because the content was pretty uninteresting
So there's a long, long way to go before Wordpress "saves" Mastodon, to put it mildly
IMOO, of course
YMMV...
cc @feditips @pfefferle
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in reply to FinchHaven • • •This is not Mastodon's project, it's not made by anyone connected to Mastodon, nor is it designed to "save" Mastodon.
This is an independent Fediverse platform which is compatible with many other Fediverse platforms including Mastodon.
These aren't VC startups trying to build up hype machines ready for the stock markets, these are FOSS projects patiently improving their functionality over years with the help of volunteers and donors.
FinchHaven
in reply to FediTips has moved! • • •"These aren't VC startups trying to build up hype machines ready for the stock markets, these are FOSS projects patiently improving their functionality over years."
Wow
Apparently you've missed the hype I've seen
Or you're following the wrong hashtags
Or you have an entirely different definition of 'hype'
cc @bitpickup @pfefferle
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in reply to FinchHaven • • •I don't follow hype, I follow the actual platforms themselves.
I don't care about "hot takes", I care about the Fediverse.
Hype cycles are meaningless, especially about the Fediverse. There were articles in 2017 talking about how Mastodon was already dead, then 2022 how it was the hot new thing. None of it makes any sense.
Expert Plus 🍀
in reply to FediTips has moved! • • •@FinchHaven please, have some respect for @feditips , they're one of the best users, giving tips for ways of using Mastodon in interesting way.
I follow them and never was disappointed.
You're threatening the person behind FediTips, as if they were child, while they're not.
Please, before posting a reply, criticizing someone, make sure that it sounds polite and friendly, because the entire Mastodon project is focused to be a friendly, safe place for people to engage in.
Your recent replies to people that showed up in my feed, are seems to be pretty rudeness.
Before calling anyone a spammer (or whatever you want to call of!), make sure that you have done your research the right way, so you wouldn't do a mistake and be ashamed.
David Mason
in reply to FediTips has moved! • • •Irina
in reply to FediTips has moved! • • •FediTips has moved!
in reply to Irina • • •@irina
Did you follow all the steps in the link?
Irina
in reply to FediTips has moved! • • •FediTips has moved!
in reply to Irina • • •@irina
When you go to Settings > ActivityPub > Settings what is the account address shown for "blog profile ID"?
Is this what you tried to edit? Did you click "save changes" after editing it?
Irina
in reply to FediTips has moved! • • •FediTips has moved!
in reply to Irina • • •Hmm... couple of things to try:
-Try the address of an author's account on your blog rather than the blog's main address. You'll find these in ActivityPub settings main page and in the Users section at the bottom of the page. Sometimes the author address works better than the main one.
-Try it later, perhaps it takes a while for the federation to kick in
Normally I'd ask the developer @pfefferle if he has any ideas but I think he's a bit overwhelmed at the moment!
Jeremy Herve
in reply to FediTips has moved! • • •In general, if one experiences issues with the ActivityPub plugin, I would recommend starting a new thread in the support forums, where you'll add as many details as possible about your setup:
wordpress.org/support/plugin/a…
In this specific case, there seems to be some issues with caching on author pages on your site. A page like this one should return a JSON object with information that Fediverse clients can use:
valdyas.org/irina/fo3/author/i…
However as you can see, on your site this only returns the usual author archive page.
If you do not use any caching plugin on your site, I would recommend getting in touch with your hosting provider, and asking them if they can help you get things to work. As an example of the expected outcome, you can check my own site:
jeremy.hu/author/jeremy/activi…
irina – Found Objects
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in reply to Jeremy Herve • • •Thank you! 🙏 Great suggestions 👍
By the way, if there are cacheing issues for the plug-in, do you know if they resolve themselves when the cache is updated?
Robert Kingett backup
in reply to Jeremy Herve • • •FediTips has moved!
in reply to Robert Kingett backup • • •@weirdwriter @jeremy @irina @pfefferle
Already done!
Irina
in reply to FediTips has moved! • • •FediTips has moved!
in reply to Irina • • •@irina @pfefferle
Even if you have just one account, there will be two separate addresses for the account and the blog as a whole.
It might be that one account works better than the other, so it's worth trying both?
Irina
in reply to FediTips has moved! • • •Mariner
in reply to FediTips has moved! • • •So where do I actually put this copied address. I found on my wordpress blog.....
khunkai.org@khunkai.org
??
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in reply to Mariner • • •@KhunKai
Put it in the search box on Mastodon and the account's profile will appear.
Or if you include @ at the start you can mention it in posts and people will be able to click on it there.
For example try clicking on @khunkai.org and you'll see your blog's profile, which you can follow.
Mariner
in reply to FediTips has moved! • • •@khunkai.org
Thank you
🙂
BeefGriller Resists
in reply to FediTips has moved! • • •This almost makes me want to start blogging again.
Uh-oh.
beforewisdom :vegan:
in reply to FediTips has moved! • • •How can you tell if you need the second plugin?
Do you need to make a new post for your blog to show up in a Mastodon search?
Do you need to wait ( how long? ) for your blog to show up in a Mastodon search?
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in reply to beforewisdom :vegan: • • •Do you mean the Webfinger plugin?
I'm not completely sure on how necessary it is, I am not a developer. Sorry 😞
Accounts only show up on Mastodon searches if someone on your server is following them, or if they have been interacted with in certain ways by someone on your server.
It's good idea to tell people on Mastodon etc the blog's Fediverse address and encourage them to follow the blog. Remember to include @ at the beginning of the address so it is clickable.
https://masto.goblackcat.net/users/housepanther
in reply to FediTips has moved! • • •FediTips has moved!
in reply to • • •@housepanther
It is an open standard so there's nothing to stop other blogging platforms from including ActivityPub.
Hopefully ActivityPub becomes a standard option on blogs the same way RSS did.
ShittyKopper
in reply to FediTips has moved! • • •ActivityPub is way too complex compared to RSS to be as ubiquitous. Anybody with a vaguely template engine shaped tool (hell, static site generators even) can create an RSS/Atom feed while ActivityPub effectively requires a backend server that's running near constantly / every X minutes (with permanent writable storage) for anything that's not a toy example for a quick blogpost.
Following an RSS feed is "just download this file every few hours and check if there's any new changes to it on your end". AP can't get that simple no matter how much you try (before it stops being widely compatible* AP, of course)
*: some AP projects may support outboxes, but none of the major ones like masto do afaik.
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in reply to ShittyKopper • • •@ShittyKopper @housepanther
Fair enough, but just in terms of being an option on the blogging software? As in plugins etc?
PKPs Powerfromspace1
in reply to FediTips has moved! • • •Theriac
in reply to FediTips has moved! • • •I have concerns
Theriac
2023-10-12 16:01:26
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in reply to Theriac • • •@Theriac
Fair enough, but that would be an issue for wordpress.com to answer rather than the WordPress software or this plugin?
alien
in reply to FediTips has moved! • • •Leisureguy
in reply to FediTips has moved! • • •Correct procedure for Wordpress.com:
1. From dashboard, Tools → Marketing → Connections (in menu on the page)
2. Click the Connect button next to Mastodon.
3. In the new window that opens:
a. Sign in to your Mastodon account.
b. Approve the connection to WordPress.com by selecting Authorize.
4. After returning to WordPress.com, another pop-up window will confirm the account you want to connect to. Select Connect.
The instructions you offer don't work.
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in reply to Leisureguy • • •No, that's not this feature.
This is not about linking a Mastodon account.
The account this feature creates is on WordPress itself, no linking at all.
Uwe Küchler
in reply to FediTips has moved! • • •I tested this on my free tier WordPress.com blog: comments on the WordPress side do *not* get federated. Commenters on WordPress.com and Mastodon thus cannot interact.
Suboptimal, but still better than nothing.
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Unknown parent • • •@hashRaygoza
If it says waiting for approval that probably means it didn't go through... Try unfollowing, waiting for a while and trying again.
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in reply to Uwe Küchler • • •@oraculix @rscottjones
Interesting, thanks for info.
How do you have comments set on your blog, is it possible that setting is affecting it somehow?
Uwe Küchler
in reply to FediTips has moved! • • •@rscottjones
I'm not aware of any setting that would affect comments going *out* of WordPress. Especially not my own comments.
All that's coming *in* needs my approval, but that shouldn't affect what's going out.
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in reply to Uwe Küchler • • •@oraculix @rscottjones
Ahh, okay, yup. Yeah, that's not great but hopefully it is improved in the future.
I wonder if the Friends plugin affects that behaviour?
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Unknown parent • • •@benny
I've had mixed reports on whether the comments are supposed to go in the other direction, I'm going to do some experiments and then do a new post about it.
CheekyMcB
in reply to FediTips has moved! • • •Scott 🏴
in reply to FediTips has moved! • • •I followed those instructions and still nothing is showing up in the search for either the blog or me as an author.
Any tips?
#MastoAdmin
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in reply to Scott 🏴 • • •At least one person on your server has to be following the account for it to show up in searches on your server.
Did you try pasting the full Fediverse account address of your blog into the search box on Mastodon? If that works, follow it yourself from Mastodon.
Scott 🏴
in reply to FediTips has moved! • • •FediTips has moved!
in reply to Scott 🏴 • • •Ah, I think that's the web address. Fediverse addresses look something like this:
@ user @ server
I just tried @ workers @ nomugsnomasters.com (but without the spaces) and it didn't show anything so it sounds like that isn't the blog's Fedi address?
Scott 🏴
in reply to FediTips has moved! • • •FediTips has moved!
in reply to Scott 🏴 • • •@scott
Hmm... that's definitely the address, yeah!
Have you tried installing the webfinger plugin? (mentioned in instructions) That has sometimes helped?
Scott 🏴
in reply to FediTips has moved! • • •FediTips has moved!
in reply to Scott 🏴 • • •@scott
For what it's worth, there are some blogs which have had problems despite doing everything correctly.
Apparently hosting companies' policies have sometimes prevented this plugin from working?
You might want to check if anyone can help on the plugin's support forum at wordpress.org/support/plugin/a…
Sorry I can't be of more help... 😟
[ActivityPub] Support | WordPress.org
WordPress.org ForumsScott 🏴
in reply to FediTips has moved! • • •FediTips has moved!
in reply to Scott 🏴 • • •@scott
Aww, cheers! 👍
Good luck with this issue!