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in reply to Daniel Supernault

this being the Fediverse, I initially thought this was a networking thing, then a Fet thing, then a Nintendo thing 🀣
in reply to mwguy

@mwguy nah. I am all for it but my wife said β€œmeh”. I joined this month and it’s… fine. But no one I know in real life is on it, there is no mobile app, and the setup can be a little off-putting. The fedi platforms have an incredible opportunity right now to take in a lot of social media refugees, but the ones without apps (friendica, loops, etc) are going to struggle to get traction with a population that is accustomed to convenience.
in reply to Chris Geoghooligan

@VTDARKSIM Dang. I think I could get my wife and her family off facebook (because they're all a little fed up with it right now). But I'd need a solid replacement for facebook groups as they use to to coordinate family stuff.
in reply to mwguy

@mwguy I’ve been pushing the fediverse for a while now, but the big 2’s fascist overtures lately have finally radicalized my wife to consider it. She happily joined #pixelfed and has convinced several friends to join.

I think that’s the key. If you/she can get a group to join together, and then they can convince someone else to do so, it will become a more attractive option. It’s the chicken & egg scenario right now.

in reply to Chris Geoghooligan

@VTDARKSIM This is absolutely a big part of the issue. Additionally it's tough to explain that they need to have an account for Mastadon, Lemmy, Loops, Pixelfed etc... to utilize all the aspects of the fediverse instead of being able to "take you ID with you" across different tools.
in reply to mwguy

@mwguy absolutely, though I will say I joined #mastodon first, then #pixelfed, then #friendica. Only then did I see I can sign in to the mastodon app with all 3 accounts. I don’t think it’s quite as universally seamless yet (for instance, the pixelfed app has the option to sign in with your mastodon account, but it wouldn’t work for me presumably because my instance hasn’t enabled it?), but I think it’s heading there.
in reply to mwguy

@mwguy @VTDARKSIM Friendica can do pretty much all the other federated services without other accounts though discovery of people on the others will be more difficult. Groups are a particular weak point. They are kind of buried. It took me a few weeks, even as an IT guy, to realize it had native groups in Friendica. They are not obvious. 'Mouse over' opens up a lot of things which makes mobile less usable. I would like to see an ease of usabilty theme developed with more obvious buttons
in reply to Chris Geoghooligan

@VTDARKSIM @mwguy the first thing I looked up was whether it has an app! As soon as it does I would then be interested

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in reply to Chris Geoghooligan

@Chris Geoghooligan @mwguy There are already a few mobile apps especially for Friendica: #Raccoon and #Relatica . But I have no experience with them, the best is always the web app because it has all the functions. However, I wouldn't really recommend Friendica to people who only want to use it on their smartphone.

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in reply to caos

@caos @mwguy those appear (from what I can translate) to be either for android or non-friendica apps. Doesn’t look like the iPhone app circle overlaps with the friendica circle in the fedi Venn diagram.
in reply to 🌴 Seph πŸ’­ πŸ‘Ύ

@vextaur Hmm, that's not the greatest. No federated private groups which means we'd have to get her whole family on **our** friend.ca server.
in reply to mwguy

@mwguy @vextaur We have Groups, but they need a bit of polish and APIs for the mobile app support.

Stay tuned though, they are just like FB Groups (down to the UI) with support for Private federated groups!

in reply to Daniel Supernault

Signal is not federated, Matrix will be the right place to be πŸ’―πŸ‘ŒπŸ»
in reply to Daniel Supernault

It is not fair to put Mastodon, Pixelfed, Friedica, Peertube and Loops as analogous to Signal. Signal is centralized, Signal relies on closed source libraries, Signal is only distributed through PlayStore, Signal is not a federated platform.

If we want to have a messaging platform on that image, it should be XMPP.

in reply to Daniel Supernault

diaspora seems to be still around but i guess friendica remains a better alternative nowadays
in reply to Daniel Supernault

will try tomorrow to install pixel on my VPS. But struggling with docker how to.
in reply to Daniel Supernault

it would be good if first of all pixelfed don't delay accepting new accounts, losing the momentum it is getting. also there is the usual bug where scrolling the home sometimes it freezes. it would be good to have a smooth pixelfed before of improving loops. but, instead of this, a third app is being developed. wish you all the best tackling things in a triune way.
in reply to Daniel Supernault

I will install Peertube tomorrow.
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in reply to Daniel Supernault

can't login to pixelfed on Android for weeks... I really want to use it but can't.
in reply to Daniel Supernault

I might do the other apps, I might not. I actually don’t find myself using Pixiefed at all.
in reply to Daniel Supernault

I don’t think all those other apps are gonna replace anything (including this app and I don’t think rednote is gonna replace TikTok either) but they might be worth giving them a shot
in reply to Daniel Supernault

@dausacker olha que legal essa imagem. (Pessoalmente nΓ£o gosto tanto da ideia de uma plataforma de vΓ­deos verticais federada... Mas a imagem nΓ£o deixa de ser legal, nΓ£o.)
in reply to Daniel Supernault

is there a SponsorBlock for PeerTube yet? That's the one thing keeping me from switching
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in reply to Daniel Supernault

i really dont want to spoil the fun here. I appreciate the effort.

But although #signal is much more popular than #matrix their relationship is like #mastodon to #bluesky. Both bluesky and signal have a #proprietary backend. although their frontent is #OpenSource they technically have a single point of failure. server/cluster down == service down

Mastodon and matrix are actual fediverse services which are undestroyable since they are many federated, independent servers.

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in reply to Daniel Supernault

Wir sind noch #neuHier auf #Mastodon. Unsere Accounts auf X, Facebook und Instagram haben wir gelΓΆscht.

Wir sind unseres Wissens der erste #AnwaltVerein im #Fediverse, aber bestimmt nicht der letzte.

Wir würden uns freuen, wenn noch mehr #RechtsanwÀlte den Weg hierher fÀnden. Sprecht Euren Lieblings-, Haus-, Familien- und Unternehmensanwalt einfach auf's #Fediversum an. Es gibt ja für jede große kommerzielle Plattform eine freie Alternative, siehe die grafische Übersicht oben.

in reply to Daniel Supernault

This is super helpful! Thank you! I just got on Mastodon! I have been off social media for a minute but wanted to get back in, just not on Meta apps!
in reply to Daniel Supernault

Dunno how well this is going to go - decentralized kinda misses the point of social networks, one of these requires you to run your own servers, and one is closed to new signups
in reply to Daniel Supernault

I recommend #DeltaChat as alternative to #WhatsApp, Delta Chat is decentralized, no phone number required etc.
in reply to Daniel Supernault

The Fediverse needs better branding. Don't use 'Tube', it was already outdated when YouTube launched. Pixelfed sounds like it's a federal agency. Friendica? What? And don't get me started on 'Mastodon' which I think would have way more users if it wasn't called 'Mastodon'
in reply to Daniel Supernault

HMM…THIS IS GREAT AND I’M SHARING IT ON OTHER SOCIAL MEDIA SITES! HOPE YOU DON’T MIND.
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@AguiarPhys @mwguy glad to hear it, I’m eagerly awaiting the iPhone version!
in reply to Daniel Supernault

hmm, I'll try the TikTok one. TikTok is out of control with the censorship now. They kissed the orange ring.

I can't seem to find it. I highly recommend Neptune but it's just starting beta now. You can sign up for beta but you might be placed on a wait list.

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in reply to Daniel Supernault

Hi Dansup, first of all, you are a ⭐ thanks for everything you do!
I have a quick question... I applied to pixelfed.art a couple of days ago, but no answer yet. Shall I wait more or resend the application? Please let me know if there is anything wrong. My username in the application was "skamu". Thanks!!
in reply to Daniel Supernault

Never was on Xitter, but I'm here. Never been on "insta," or What'sApp, or TikTok. Debating leaving FB and not switching to anything. YT with ad blockers and a VPN for now.
in reply to Daniel Supernault

I'd swap out PeerTube for Odysee, personally. I like the concept of PeerTube but in my experience, it's nowhere near as viable as Odysee is.
in reply to Daniel Supernault

Long interesting discussion! Another idea, while we’re at it, might be to buy a Fairphone with /e/os and resist the temptation of installing the β€˜wrong apps’. They also sell tablets. Reasonably locked down Linux on your computer and you’re set. Am I the only one who sees the irony of choosing β€˜safe’ apps but still using the machines and os’ of the beast? :-). If you have to use them at work, wait till you get home to socialize online, or take your Fairphone on your pee break.
in reply to Daniel Supernault

apart from Mastodon and Signal i don't think other alternatives are as polished yet.
in reply to Daniel Supernault

Lemmy is the most usable one and the only I frequent daily out of the whole fediverse, even with the lower numbers in comparison, its consistent with it's growth and way more constructive than reddit
in reply to Daniel Supernault

I prefer Hubzilla to Friendica.Especially because it is one of the few (the only one?) that supports β€œnomadic identity”.
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in reply to Jupiter Rowland

@jupiter_rowland ngl, Mike Macgirvin is one of those generational forces that really changes things.

I know he doesn't like me, but I stan his eloquent ingenuity, devs like him are rare, and I hope we can work together one day!

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in reply to Daniel Supernault

why not quit with social media? (I know, asking this on Mastodon....)
in reply to Daniel Supernault

I have to say that I just really paid attention to the logos for Loops and Peertube and I think they’re brilliant. I have no idea if you intended for Loops to reference/riff Peertube’s design language, but it’s very good either way (Peertube evoking federation through the β€œplay” triangle pointing in multiple directions while also itself being a β€œplay” triangle; almost the same sized triangle in the negative space with the looping graphics for Loops).
in reply to Daniel Supernault

well, @signalapp too is #proprietary and #centralized and peddles a #Cryptocurrency #Scamcoin named #MobileCoin:
youtube.com/watch?v=tJoO2uWrX1…

Use #XMPP+#OMEMO (i.e. @monocles / #monoclesChat & @gajim / #gajim) instead!
monocles.social/@monocles/1139…

#Shitcoin #Signal


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For the global switch day monocles chat will be available for free in the Playstore (01.02. - 07.02.):

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Take your chance and switch to the XMPP network

#globalswitchday #XMPP #monocles #monocleschat #messenger #chat #jabber #otr #omemo #pgp #opensource #openpgp #sustainability #e2ee #endtoendencryption #privacy #security


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