Honestly, this is the worst open letter I've ever read. It lacks maturity and professionalism. It's full of snarky comments and a tone that doesn't encourage an adult conversation. He had the chance to show Meta is the one acting like a child, but instead he made himself sound like one. And that's sad.
this reads like somebody with maturity issues wrote it. Also at least export the thing into a pdf first, the squiggly lines and text cursor are still visible
More importantly, Zuckerberg didn’t build Facebook because he believed in anything, at least not anything good - initially the project was to rate college girls on their appearances
lovely, just … don’t forget that Zuck’s original idea was to dehumanize and objectify women. He’s never had a noble vision. And I hope PixelFed’s doors aren’t open to that.
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@paul_e_cooley unfortunately, intentionally or accidentally. Dan is following Elon's 'move fast and break things' mentality.
He's doing great things for fediverse visibility... but being a one man show leads to getting your ego involved or missing things (like Loops' egregious rights over-reach in its TOS).
Dan's done a lot of good... I just hope he can avoid an Icarus-style crash and burn that could undo a lot of that good. ..
I believe texts get better when we step aside for a few cycles and not let ourselves be driven by the highness of attention. Zuckerberg has never been what you describe. There is no grassroots moral origin we could jumpstart in the back of his memory. It is historically evident that Facebook, later meta has frequently chosen the unethical paths when they had choice to. There is no ancient ideal to appeal to. No renaissance can happen.
great letter! Rooting for you all the way!! A couple of years after I started NadaMoo, I got a cold call from the retired director of sales for Ben and Jerry’s. “Your product has ‘legs’” he said, “and I want to help.” No threats from lawyers followed. Because Ben and Jerry got it right: equity, sustainability and community can be the pillars of successful businesses. They were not in my niche market, but they still cared about the people in my niche market.
"connecting people"? Facebook was created to predate on women and use their data without their consent!!! it was NEVER about connecting people, it was always about misogyny, ego and money.
Been a while. I’ve mostly been posting on the Fedi, but I feel like this is a rather important topic that requires attention.
Recently @dansup has been posting a bunch about loops.video, a federated alternative to Instagram/ TikTok.
Well, Facebook started as a sexist platform for rating female college students without consent. There is nothing you can expect from such an "inventor".
I may not be an economist, but generally when they gush about innovations that selflessly want to connect people, they’re generally talking about marketing more than edenic community…no offense to the love-machine of laissez-faire of course
»You've confirmed what we've been saying all along - that big tech is more interested in protecting their walled gardens than fostering genuine innovation.«
All along? Here's what you said, last September:
»Meta approached the fediverse in the proper way They didn't acquire Mastodon Instead they worked with fedi projects big and small regarding interop Meta isn't the enemy«
w.r.t the Social Web Foundation, I'm glad we have some formal organization to help steward the protocol
See, it's easy to get caught up on Meta's participation while forgetting the impact just a few people made on the social network landscape
Meta …
When facebook started afaik it was not about connecting people, it was about rating women. (so I highly doubt Zuck ever wanted to "make the internet better" and I wouldn't open a door to this guy under any circumstances.) That aside the open letter of course is nice.
Awesome, but the one catch here is that he probably didn't develop (with other people, not alone) Facebook for idealistic reasons. It's more likely that he wanted to get laid, and help other horny college dudes get laid. The original Facebook has been credibly accused of being a stalking app, and I find that very easy to believe. Nothing he's done has indicated to me that he actually gives a shit about users, and nothing he says has any meaning for me without evidence to back it up.
I noticed something similar a year or so ago. Any time I would share photos of my kids with family members or whatever, I would create a public share link to the album on my Nextcloud server, with an expiration date, and then share that link on Facebook. All of a sudden one day I started noticing that the posts would get deleted a few minutes after I posted them, then they started blocking me from posting the links outright.
To be honest I would be really surprised if this was on purpose and not a malfunction of their spam filters. Pixelfed isn't in the same ballpark as Instagram, struggling to think how having a company policy to filter out its links would be worth the bad publicity - for basically no reason.
When Facebook started it was not about "connecting people", it was about rating girls' fuckability on campus. Zuck has always been a misogynistic arsehole.
When money and power get in the head of the people they becomes another persons, puppets of administration dramas. How unhappy happens when you must down the knees to your enemy ? Play your game! Do your best ! The Big Brother watches everything.He do not known do other thing. Do not be romantic ! Be smart !
"It was about connecting people, not maximizing engagement metrics."
No. It was exactly NOT about connecting people. It never was. It was about making money. Ever since.
Am I really one of the last people left on planet earth remembering Mark Z. having written "I don't know why. They 'trust me'. Dumb fucks." about facebook users? I cannot believe this...
Frank Heijkamp
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in reply to pixelfed • • •He had the chance to show Meta is the one acting like a child, but instead he made himself sound like one. And that's sad.
Stomata
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in reply to pixelfed • • •it may help to shorten the letter
Dear Zuck,
Get bent, loser
Signed,
All of us
Spark Purcell (they/them)
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in reply to pixelfed • • •"Remember when Facebook started? It was about rating women."
Fixed it for you.
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in reply to pixelfed • • •this reads like somebody with maturity issues wrote it. Also at least export the thing into a pdf first, the squiggly lines and text cursor are still visible
More importantly, Zuckerberg didn’t build Facebook because he believed in anything, at least not anything good - initially the project was to rate college girls on their appearances
Howard Cheng
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in reply to pixelfed • • •This must be read in the same tone Kain used when addressing the elder god at the end of “Defiance”.
“Your words are heartening. For you would not fear us unless we could truly do you harm. False god. This is the end. The final turn of your wheel.”
Sally Strange
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in reply to pixelfed • • •Well played, Daniel, well played.
☺️🙏
#pixelfed #imstagram #zuckerberg #opensource
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TeflonTrout he/him
in reply to pixelfed • • •No surveillance capitalism*
*but it still owns everything that gets posted there in every way, shape, and form to use however Dan sees fit, forever.
Please work on that terms of service
Elena Rossini ⁂
in reply to pixelfed • • •this open letter is EVERYTHING 🙌
Bravissimo @dansup 👑
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in reply to pixelfed • • •@paul_e_cooley unfortunately, intentionally or accidentally. Dan is following Elon's 'move fast and break things' mentality.
He's doing great things for fediverse visibility... but being a one man show leads to getting your ego involved or missing things (like Loops' egregious rights over-reach in its TOS).
Dan's done a lot of good... I just hope he can avoid an Icarus-style crash and burn that could undo a lot of that good.
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in reply to pixelfed • • •this "open letter" is embarassing... to Pixelfed.
"connecting people"? Facebook was created to predate on women and use their data without their consent!!! it was NEVER about connecting people, it was always about misogyny, ego and money.
Transcedental
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in reply to pixelfed • • •Maybe someone should tell the lawyers who drafted the Loops TOS that :)
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loops.video - phil@bajsicki:~$
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in reply to pixelfed • • •Just kidding, he deserves every bit of criticism imaginable.
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in reply to pixelfed • • •There is nothing you can expect from such an "inventor".
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in reply to pixelfed • • •»You've confirmed what we've been saying all along - that big tech is more interested in protecting their walled gardens than fostering genuine innovation.«
All along? Here's what you said, last September:
»Meta approached the fediverse in the proper way
They didn't acquire Mastodon
Instead they worked with fedi projects big and small regarding interop
Meta isn't the enemy«
mastodon.social/@dansup/113202…
Daniel Supernault (@dansup@mastodon.social)
MastodonBidouilleur
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in reply to pixelfed • • •this letter was small and unhelpful.
I would love to find a platform without a "front-man" with an inflated sense of self.
Torsten likes this.
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in reply to pixelfed • • •That aside the open letter of course is nice.
Confrontation Jacen
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in reply to pixelfed • • •I love it... :)
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in reply to pixelfed • • •Zuck has always been a misogynistic arsehole.
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in reply to pixelfed • • •Honoured to participate in the community building human tools for humans. Great letter.
Keep building, we're going all the way.
#humans #freedom #fedi # Mastodon #pixelfed #humanTools #HumanCommunity #humanTools
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in reply to pixelfed • • •much too generous... Facebook began as a frat boy's hot or not rating game to objectify and demean women.
Zuck has been a schmuck from the get go.
Brendan Thompson
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in reply to pixelfed • • •How unhappy happens when you must down the knees to your enemy ?
Play your game!
Do your best !
The Big Brother watches everything.He do not known do other thing.
Do not be romantic !
Be smart !
📷 🖋 ~hyde
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in reply to pixelfed • • •"It was about connecting people, not maximizing engagement metrics."
No. It was exactly NOT about connecting people. It never was. It was about making money. Ever since.
Am I really one of the last people left on planet earth remembering Mark Z. having written "I don't know why. They 'trust me'. Dumb fucks." about facebook users? I cannot believe this...
Mark Burton
in reply to pixelfed • • •en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critic…
media coverage of the shortcomings of Facebook's market dominance
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in reply to pixelfed • • •Please send to your Spanish-speaking friends this Spanish translation made with open source tools
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in reply to pixelfed • • •But if I saw correctly the alt description is missing the last part of the letter.
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in reply to pixelfed • • •Now Instagram is blocking hashtag #democrats ? 🤔
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Also: mstdn.chrisalemany.ca/@chris/1…
Tim Bray
2025-01-21 05:57:03
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in reply to pixelfed • • •your nice post was adjacent to this other nice, topical item
aus.social/@jackscottau/113868…
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