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Well, just confirmed that bans on @fediversenews work as they should.

A troll just tried to post here.

Their troll post doesn't display on @fediversenews, nor is their post boosted by the Group.

Even better, they're not notified when they are blocked 😉

Until comment controls come to Friendica, moderation here will mostly have to be reactive.

I will continue using venera.social for groups until a better solution comes along.

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in reply to Trenton Matthews

Very few software on the Fediverse have comment controls.

The only two I've seen that do it are Streams and Pixelfed.

EDIT: And apparently Mobilizion.

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in reply to Chris Trottier

@Chris Trottier I cannot imagine that it's rocket science. Just request the feature and see what happens.
in reply to Jupiter Rowland

@jupiter_rowland But it doesn’t and can’t work with ActivityPub the way it is just now. Anyone can create a post that is “inReplyTo” your post and it will get federated to every instance that post will normally travel to. They will all display it, whatever the original post author wanted. It might not display on their instance, but everyone else will see it. I swear @erincandescent had an article about this, but I can’t find it.
in reply to Kevin Davidson

@jupiter_rowland @erincandescent There is an open GitHub issue about this.

github.com/w3c/activitypub/iss…

in reply to Chris Trottier

How is Friendica? Been thinking about making an account on it as an excuse to phase out Facebook completely.

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in reply to Synth Morxemplum

@Synth Morxemplum, I've found it to be quite a comfortable experience. The UI might be a bit lacking for most folks but I like the simplicity of it. The areas in which it lacks are easily made up for in basic compatibility. Make sure to check the nodeinfo for in/out services and protocols, they differ between instances. You can easily view them on the FediDB site.

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in reply to eshep

@eshep ui is a fixable issue. I could modify HTML / CSS if I wanted to so I can make it look the way I want it.

The reason why I would make a friendica account separate from a Mastodon account is it would be my more irl account, which is what I've always considered my Facebook account for years. I like to keep some of my relatives away from my digital identity (though I'm almost at a point in my life where it makes no difference)

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in reply to Chris Trottier

Friendica once had moderate comment control. The current devs removed it.There's always streams if you want to see what is possible when you aren't ruled by market share and just want a safe space with cool tools.

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in reply to Chris Trottier

Of course. Moderated groups, private groups, whatever groups you want.

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in reply to Mike Macgirvin

@mike
Are they compatible with Mastodon, Friendica etc? Last time I tried to access a Hubzilla (which Streams is based on?) from Friendica, I couldn't access it with the URL.

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in reply to Anders Rytter Hansen

@Anders Rytter Hansen They should be. (streams) has ActivityPub support.

If you can't connect to someone on Hubzilla, this may have two reasons. Either the URL doesn't work in your case for some reason; then try the Webfinger ID instead, the one with the @s.

Or if you've discovered the channel while looking through some Hubzilla stream instead of somewhere that doesn't run on Zot/Nomad, chances are that this particular channel doesn't have ActivityPub on. At least on Hubzilla, ActivityPub is optional per channel and off by default because it doesn't work too well with nomadic identity.

Oh, and (streams) is at least related to Hubzilla. It isn't a straight Hubzilla fork, though. The actual story behind it is so complicated with another five project names involved that even I don't know the exact line of descendance. Maybe Hubzilla is a direct ancestor, maybe it's rather @mike's private instance(s) which AFAIK never ran vanilla Hubzilla and kept the Red Matrix branding way beyond Hubzilla's 1.0 release.

in reply to Jupiter Rowland

@Jupiter Rowland

Ah okay. This makes sense. Thanks for the explanation :)

Hubzilla seems very appealing in this case with what you explain about groups/channels.

@mike @Fediverse News

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in reply to Jupiter Rowland

Use whatever group posting method you want. We support all of them. Unless it's a private group. That requires a DM. Of course streams works with Mastodon. And if you want a public instance, build one. That's not my job.

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in reply to Chris Trottier

Not sure what "comment controls" are, but #lemmy provides a "lock" action to moderators/admins of communities (which are like sub-reddits) which, AFAICT, prevents the user/account from making any further comments in a thread/post.

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in reply to Chris Trottier

@maegul That's what it's about, that you can adjust for every message you post.
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in reply to Jupiter Rowland

@jupiter_rowland @erincandescent I think comment control (followers only, author only etc) and blocking actually doing what users expect are things that will have to come along eventually. The same mechanism should apply to quote boosts. Just Mastodon implementing it would be a huge chunk of users. Pixelfed already thinks it has this.
I’d see the sender’s local instance generating the fail to send error. Short cut the wasted work, straight to bit bucket.
in reply to Kevin Davidson

@Kevin Davidson @Erin 💽 Blocking quote boosts would deprive Friendica, Hubzilla and (streams) of their resharing functionality. They can't boost like Mastodon. They can only "quote-boost" reshare.

Also, absolute water-tight quote blocking on these three projects is science-fiction. They don't quote with some mumbo-jumbo magic happening in the background. They quote with BBcode in plain sight in the post editor. And you can actually type valid quote code by hand. Not to mention that you can type non-standard ways of quoting by hand, e.g. with quotation marks, with single quotation marks or Usenet style with a leading >.

I'd demonstrate them, but none of you could see them unless I took a screenshot of the post preview and attached it.

Either way, all three projects would have to auto-detect no-quote posts being quoted both as a whole and in one or multiple parts, reliably and without false positives, regardless of how they were quoted.

in reply to Jupiter Rowland

@jupiter_rowland @erincandescent I’m not going to be in the room when they nail down the MUSTs and SHOULDs for any of this, but hopefully if it ever makes it to the standard, everyone will follow it.
The anti-quote people are very adamant that it’s absence from core Mastodon has prevented abuse, even if it’s just a speed bump. That could end up with the sort of split where some groups refuse to follow the standard, instead of just setting different defaults.