Is there a petition somewhere to remove "Google Safe Browsing" from Firefox? I would like to sign it, if so.
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Is there a petition somewhere to remove "Google Safe Browsing" from Firefox? I would like to sign it, if so.
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in reply to Bart Janssens π§πͺ • •I agree, such a pain for #yunohost :(
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in reply to Bart Janssens π§πͺ • •Yeah.... "google safe browsing" sounds like "church safe childcare". We all know what they do behind the "curtains"...
My Yunohost installs also "suffer" from this nonsense.
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in reply to Bart Janssens π§πͺ • • •Can we add, remove Google safe browsing to Google Chrome and derivatives as well, please?
Asking as someone who had their #selfhosted instance blocked from pretty much every browser by Google for the crime of using #Yunohost.
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in reply to YunoHost • • •Dear @firefox,
Please remove Google controlled browsing (pitched to us as Google "safe" browsing). I use Firefox because I *don't* want Google to control what I see, so letting them choose this, even in #Firefox, defeats the purpose of your mission.
Thanks.
#Privacy #Google #GoogleControlledBrowsing #GoogleSafeBrowsing
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Ah yes, the infamous "Deceptive Site Ahead."
I had a domain flagged because they considered the yunohost login page on the server to be a "social engineering" attempt. I found myself having to register at goog search console to try to explain why there's a yunohost login page on the site. Their example URLs for why the site was flagged also included random subdomains that would redirect to the yunohost panel login page because I had wildcard URLs enabled on the domain. The affected domain was unflagged, then eventually reflagged... luckily I was the only one really using the site.
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in reply to Bart Janssens π§πͺ • • •"Google safe browsing" should really be renamed "Google controlled browsing". No matter which popular browser used, Google alone chooses what pages are blocked with frightening messages about malware/phishing.
Sure, you can switch it off on your own browser, but if you run a site, you have no control over the browser of all your visitors. So when Google decides that they don't like Yunohost (or any other webapp) you're basically screwed.
#privacy #selfhosting #google #GoogleSafeBrowsing
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in reply to Blortβ’ πβπ₯β£οΈ • • •@Blort For what it's worth and as far as I understand, #Firefox actually uses the "Update API" of Google Safe Browsing, which means it periodically updates a local copy of the list, so Google doesn't see the URL that is checked.
wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Safeβ¦
Security/Safe Browsing/V4 Implementation - MozillaWiki
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Unknown parent • • •@Gautgaut @digitalcourage @Framasoft @federationfdn @ff7 @arn_fai @LaQuadrature @ChatonsOrg
From a quick google search I was able to find that various free software are getting flagged too:
- Emby : old.reddit.com/r/emby/commentsβ¦
- Mastodon : old.reddit.com/r/Mastodon/commβ¦
- Jellyfin : github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin-wβ¦
and probably others too
The infuriating is that it's not clear at all what is the issue, and from what I understand you need to register a google account to contest this thing
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When you do report that a site is on the banlist, Google also does not respond at all, so there seems to be no official way of finding out what's wrong. And that while this list is supposed to contain only *known* malicious sites.
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in reply to YunoHost • • •Yes, a while ago I ended up having to register for Google Search Console to contest their "deceptive site" flag.
They claim to have detected "harmful content." The issue was "deceptive pages." The sample URLs they provided were all
/yunohost/adminor/yunohost/sso."These pages attempt to trick users into doing something dangerous, such as installing unwanted software or revealing personal information."
Other sample URLs they provided were random subdomains that I wasn't even using. But since wildcard URLs were enabled they were redirecting to
/yunohost/admin.It seems they think that all sites that running on Yunohost servers are trying to impersonate Yunohost. (?)
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Thanks, but the point is not just to find a browser that doesn't use #GoogleControlledBrowsing. Heck, I can even turn this off in #Chrome if I want. What I *can't* do is switch it off for everyone else, visiting sites that Google has decided to block with "unsafe" malware / phishing warnings, even when they don't have anything like that. This is exactly what happens with many #Yunohost sites:
forum.yunohost.org/t/google-flβ¦
#Google #Privacy
Google flags my sites as dangerous (Deceptive site ahead)
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"Fun" fact : even rubygems.org got flagged recently, cf history here on May 12th : status.rubygems.org/
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What I would like to have is a way to detect if a browser has this enabled, and if so gently redirect them to an exit page about #webneutrality or something.