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in reply to lemmyreader

TLDR: Easy installation of something like Termux, GUI, Kwin and KDE, and a graphical display.

This is really good!

in reply to boredsquirrel

Not really. It seems to use a very different technology from termux.
in reply to lily33

it's actually not that far off a chroot, it uses LXC, the really cool thing thats going on is this wayland integration, I was waiting for termux-gui + wlroots to come along, but this might just land first
in reply to drwankingstein

However, it also uses halium and libhybris. That means you can't just install your favourite distro and upstream tools. Everything that needs GPU acceleration needs to be patched for libhybris. For example, that means no upstream wlroots - and the latest patched version I think is 0.12 or so.
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in reply to lily33

I havent looked into it yet, but ill be looking into doing an extra shim layer if this is the case. It wont be hard to set up some basic stuff for that, wlroots for instance is great for doing nested stuff since it can forward all of the inputs we need to the nested compositor
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in reply to drwankingstein

So how does it render to screen? Because the biggest nag on any of these previous implementations came when I needed to use VNC to remotely connect to the desktop...
in reply to iturnedintoanewt

it uses a modified wayland compositor that hooks up directly to android surfaceview. Currently if you want a chroot/proot solution, I reccomend termux-x11. it's good performance.
in reply to lemmyreader

If someone could build a preconfigured image that has Phosh and basic phone apps, I would consider using this full time.
in reply to trevor

Would be even better if it can be registered as the default launcher too
in reply to Hector

Could we uninstall almost all non system apps, make it autostart and prevent any other app from getting in the way?
in reply to lemmyreader

I recall using an app way back when I used to root and haxor all the mobiles that would do this. Kind of a virtualbox for the Nexus phones/tablets, but it needed root to do it. Will have to look into this, would be interesting if it can do so in user space somehow.

Edit: Damn, still needs root. Was a longshot to be able to hook into system resources without it but was hoping for some bridge function.

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in reply to ShellMonkey

That bridge function would still need root (or critical level security holes) to be installed, if the ROM doesn't ship it.
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in reply to ShellMonkey

if you want a non root solution, termux proot + termux-x11, or eventually termux proot + termux-gui + wayland compositor
in reply to lemmyreader

So basically it's UserLAnd with accelerated graphics instead of VNC.
in reply to ExtremeDullard

Actually, no, this seems to work on a very different principle.
in reply to lemmyreader

So I could use this to run PostmarketOS inside Android?
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in reply to electricprism

There is someone who managed to convert a proot-distro version of #alpine into a #pmos one. It's not as great as it may sound though.

Linux reshared this.

in reply to eshep

there are massive limitations to termux proot/chroot that don't apply here. proper touch support is one of them.
in reply to lemmyreader

Yo dawg, I heard you like Linux. So I built a Linux container for your Linux phone. Now you can enjoy Linux while enjoying your Linux phone.
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in reply to jol

Not that I don't disagree with you, but how did you come down to this conclusion?
in reply to laughterlaughter

We're so many levels of abstraction and emulation deep, that the natural conclusion is that there's no reason to believe we're at the top of the abstraction, but somewhere in the middle.
in reply to jol

I understood that. But I don't see how you came down to this conclusion simply because someone put Linux inside Linux.

When you put matryoshka russian dolls one inside the other, do you also think "man, we live in a simulation"?

in reply to lemmyreader

You could emulate Android on Linux before, now you can also emulate Linux on Android

The circle of libe is compleet

in reply to cafuneandchill

PostmarketOS in chroot in termux in waydroid on PostmarketOS 🤘

Linux reshared this.

in reply to critical

We can also emulate windows on android and WSL obviously on windows.

So we can use Linux to emulate Android, which in turn emulates windows to run WSL

in reply to cafuneandchill

I have been running arm32 elf binaries and Xorg on my HTC M8 stock kernel with Android 4. That's not a new thing. Libreoffice and Xfce ran pretty well on that thing.
in reply to lemmyreader

Does this mean I could install and run Blender on my phone???
in reply to TheFonz

you can already try that with chroot/proot, this just gives far better integration for input handling and stuff
in reply to lemmyreader

You need a phone, tablet, or other device that’s been rooted.


Damit

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in reply to InnerScientist

look into proot+termux-x11 if you don't have a rooted device, it's still very good.
in reply to drwankingstein

It's just quite a bit slower. Everything else other than messing with /sys and android processes works the same.

HDMI, mouse and keyboard and you have an office pc.

in reply to InnerScientist

Rule of thumb for android users, all of the interesting shit is shit you can't do unless you're rooted.
in reply to KillingTimeItself

I remember when it used to be all the REALLY interesting stuff was root only, yet a lot of normal interesting stuff was non-root. Now even with root, modern Android can be a pain and the interesting stuff just pales in comparison with true Linux
in reply to GlenTheFrog

yeah, linux has me spoiled, just being able to do whatever i want as i please is truly a modern art.

Android made me realize how incredible linux was by being so utterly painful.