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"Wayland breaks everything."

Wayland is a communication protocol that is intended to replace the X Window protocol that Linux computers use. It's supposed to be more modern, simpler, and more secure. But apparently it breaks a lot of programs. This page has a big list.

Wayland breaks everything

#solidstatelife #linux #xorg

in reply to Wayne Radinsky (old account)

"Wayland solves no issues I have but breaks almost everything I need"

Wayland looks like a big headache for me, just like systemD

in reply to Wayne Radinsky (old account)

And it seems most of the issues are fixed gist.github.com/probonopd/9feb…
in reply to Wayne Radinsky (old account)

What is the alternative? X is dead and buggy as hell as well. Will take some time until Wayland is polished enough
in reply to Wayne Radinsky (old account)

Might many of the #x11 / #xorg tools that "#wayland breaks" have more to do with those tools being built for #Xserver compatibility, not wayland, than wayland breaking their functionality?
in reply to Wayne Radinsky (old account)

My desktop is nearly identical to what I had in the 1990's. Wayland breaks things I like, like xeyes and xfowarding. I do not believe older applications should be "depreciated" because some new programmer has no appreciation. This is why I do not use commercial software, where arbitrary change is forced upon users.
in reply to Wayne Radinsky (old account)

X isn't buggy, certainly not in its design. The code is pretty damn mature too, though as with all code it has some deficiencies.

X is far from dead (not that any open-source software can ever fundamentally die).

I haven't seen any evidence of how Wayland is more secure, especially not in its fundamental design -- equally bad I'd say.

Wayland is more "modern"? In the way that "modern" web sites are filled with gigabytes of bloat and unnecessary complexity?

As for Wayland being "simpler", well that's kinda because it kicks all the necessary complexity out to the side for other parts of the GUI and applications to deal with. The easiest "fix" to Wayland's missing bits is to simply turn it into a back-end for X11!