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in reply to Aral Balkan

Very good online tool indeed ^^
thanks for sharing.

I don't understand why it's not technically compatible with firefox though. It doesn't matter.
in reply to NiTroll Robin

What makes it even better is that you can also download it and use it offline 😀
in reply to Vegard (Hårfagre) Fjeldberg eo

Looks like it (couldn‘t find the source on https://github.com/jarek-foksa?tab=repositories although the underlying interface library appears to be).

I’d love to know what the developer‘s plans for it are. This would also be a great opportunity for someone like NLNet to swoop in and support it being transitioned into the commons (before some VC swoops in and transitions it into being a people farmer).
in reply to Aral Balkan

By the way, nowadays I usually refer to servers as gardens. I believe this will make owning a garden sound a lot less technical and a lot more fun. It would also create expectations of ease of use.

As example, freedombox and yunohost are aiming to be such garden operating systems. And Pioneer Freedombox is a garden.

#language #orange #digitalissues
in reply to Aral Balkan

Oh my goodness, the export settings… everything about this app… so minimalist, so beautiful… this should be in case studies for free/open usability.
in reply to Aral Balkan

And those little touches… notice how the curve that the selected Bézier control point is affecting is highlighted in purple. And you can simply pull along there to shape the curve instead of manipulating the control point handles.

Just beautiful.

#svg #foss #boxySVG #web #design #vector #illustration
in reply to Aral Balkan

And, finally (there’s so much more but I’ll stop raving now and get back to work), the web-related features, like a built-in accessibility and scripting panel and access to the SVG source, styling, etc.

If you’re creating illustrations for the web (or, heck, in general) and you’re not using this absolute gem of an app, you’re missing out 😀

#svg #web #design #vector #illustration
in reply to Aral Balkan

Alas, we can't use anything but open/commons software. We work in collaborative networks where everybody needs to be able to use all of the software (if they want) or it will hurt the network.
in reply to bhaugen

I don’t understand… it’s free on free/open systems. So if you cannot use anything but open/commons software, you should be fine as everyone should be running Linux or some other free/open OS where they can use it for free. If someone is running macOS, which is where they have to pay for it, they’ve already violated your pledge to not use anything but open/commons software.
in reply to Aral Balkan

Thanks, sorry I misunderstood myself. If it's free on Linux. that's good. Better would be open to modification and extension. I'll keep looking and see if I can figure that out...
in reply to Aral Balkan

Just discovered this little gem yesterday (and, consequently, did a search here on Mastodon that led me to your post) - how is it this difficult to find an app like this, when the "total addressable market" is basically everybody who has a computer, and isn't a professional graphics artist...?

#apps #graphics #ux #design #vector #boxysvg
in reply to Aral Balkan

Correction: the app itself doesn’t appear to be free/open (which is fine, it’s still an indie app and that definitely counts) although the interface library and some other components appear to be.

I also just wrote an email to the author to both praise him for making what is one of the most gorgeous apps I’ve seen in a long while and to ask what his plans are for the future.

I‘d love to see, for example, some EU funding being used to contribute this to the commons.
in reply to Aral Balkan

If humans had access to their basic needs as trade-free, at least that, then we could see so many amazing things and projects happening, from online to offline. We should "demand" for this. We can't do good things while being always stressed about the rent, and food, and surviving....
in reply to Aral Balkan

Ah, so the business model is that the app is sold on the Mac App Store and it’s free everywhere else. I’m totally cool with this.

Could still be open sourced under AGPL (like Better was) but I’m more than happy to see an indie developer making a living from an excellent app they’ve made.
in reply to Aral Balkan

It's a bit more discriminatory. If you open the page with Safari, the only option is to buy the app. No editor. If you open the page with Chrome, it shows. That's kinda harsh, IMHO. Browser is browser. A website shouldn't reduce functionality just to sell the app. IMHO.
in reply to Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

for me, opening with Safari shows me a message saying “to use the web app, open this page with [list of chrome based browsers]”.

Might just be a compatibility thing, since Safari and Firefox are just about the only browsers left that use a different engine.
in reply to Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

What are you talking about, of course it’s an gOpen Web based on gOpen Standards.

PS. The g is silent.
in reply to Aral Balkan

@apps is also a great example. #FediLab is a paid app on the #Google Prey store, and free on the fine #FDroid with a #GPL'ed codebase at #Codeberg ..

https://codeberg.org/tom79/Fedilab
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Aral Balkan
Yeah, thanks for checking. You?
in reply to Aral Balkan

Oh this looks cool. It is available as flatpak too! Nice!
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Aral Balkan
https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/108708182213886283

Also: scam? Really? Do fuck off.
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Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:
And @T045T - the website promises "Boxy SVG project goal is to create the best tool for editing SVG files.[...] On any device and operating system." Which seems to really mean "ATM free for Chrome based browsers and Linux folks, Apple users please pay" - I am not saying it's wrong, but it does come over as misleading to me.
in reply to Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

Jan, is everything misleading that is not either pay for license or open-source free as in free beer? I agree on the browser piece though as it does not support firefox. Probably they program against the chrome extension API, not simply doing HTML5 and javascript.
in reply to Rigo Wenning

It is an app/browser thingy that only works works on a chrome based engine. Which ignores Firefox and tells Safari users to pay $19,99 for a MacOS app. One can find that cool, I just am not that convinced. I'll prefer Inkscape which Just Works for my SVG Workflow.
in reply to Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

Jan, it’s an indie app with no tracking or any other bullshit by a sole developer who is actually attempting to make a living from it (instead of, say, working at Google or Facebook during the day for a six figure salary and contributing to “open source” on the weekends) so I’m going to celebrate the shit out of it 😀

(I also spoke with him over email yesterday & he’s anti-VC and said the only way he’d sell it is if it’s open sourced as part of the deal. Works for me.)
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Aral Balkan
I hear Facebook works in every browser. Thank goodness we have ethical folks like Zuckerberg who really embrace the open web.
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Aral Balkan
Yep, love + use them. Only discovered Boxy when exports were timing out and I really needed that export 😀
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Penpot :penpot:
Hey!! A new release is on the way 😀 our team is currently working on bug fixes and improvements!
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Aral Balkan
It’s offline, not necessarily “faster” (not sure what faster means in this context) 😀

Try them both out. See what works for you. You might even end up using both ;)