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This is your irregular reminder #Adobe are fucking dicks:
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> Adobe Tells Users They Can Get Sued for Using Old Versions of Photoshop

We need #FLOSS tools to get to the point where they can replace Adobe tools. The alternatives are great, but they are sadly not there yet to replace Adobe tools for professionals.

And won't be unless projects like @inkscape get enough funding to develop to a point of being viable alternatives.

Yes, it is in no small part about the money.

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in reply to Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

Why do we need tools for "professionals"? They're just making corporate trash, polluting our culture.

It would be better for the applications to focus on their free users.

As a side note, I was packaging Inkscape back when it was called Sodipodi. :)

#Sodipodi

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@jebba
> Why do we need tools for "professionals"? They're just making corporate trash, polluting our culture.

These professional users might be working for your local theater, local library, local school. They can be fedi artists (yes, that is professional use — they get paid for their work). They can be people working for the FSFE, or Amnesty International, or whatever NGO you choose to support.

No idea where you got this weird notion that "professionals" are only "corporate".

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in reply to Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

I saw someone suggesting that this might have something to do with Adobe losing Pantone licensing. Two giant companies getting in a money spat and passing the problem down to the users.
in reply to Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

If you can replace #Adobe tools in your workflow today, great, more power to you! Not everyone can, sadly.

Tools like @inkscape, @Krita and @Blender are fantastic and built with love and energy and care. But in many cases they are still not an option for a lot of creative types.

So support them if you can. Use them if they work for you. Help improve them if you have the skills (that includes writing documentation, and working on better UI/UX!).

The better they get, the weaker Adobe becomes! 👀

in reply to Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

i wish there was a good alternative to Lightroom that can also seamlessly import existing catalogues ... I'm locked into it, effectively, since I have decades' worth of raw files managed in it. at least I'm on the last "proper" version of it that you could outright buy before it went Creative Cloud leasing model...
in reply to Patrick H. Lauke

@patrick_h_lauke Darktable can iirc, you just need to ask Lightroom to create sidecar files and work with those, not just the single catalog file, doesn't seem that difficult.

@darktable themselves might have some rough idea on where to point you for that

in reply to Teknikal_Domain

@tek_dmn @darktable but likely that only loads general exposure settings and metadata, any actual edits would not carry over?
in reply to Patrick H. Lauke

@patrick_h_lauke @tek_dmn the edits do not carry over. Nor would you want them too, since darktable's edit tools are quite different.
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@darktable @tek_dmn ... and there we go, i have almost 20 years' worth of DNGs with edits, and want to still maintain the capability to get back and tweak those edits at any point. that's what's keeping me locked into keeping my old version of lightroom...
in reply to Patrick H. Lauke

@patrick_h_lauke @tek_dmn yeah but that's what lock in is, right, and I'll be that way for every photo editing app. We don't think there are any raw editors where edits are interchangeable.

At some point you will have to decide not to be locked in anymore, export jpegs/tiffs of your current edits, then accept that you'll need to reedit in your new editor.

Or at some point you'll need to start paying adobe monthly. Maybe thats worth it for you. Maybe not

in reply to darktable

@patrick_h_lauke I wonder, DUMB wonder, if it's possible to read the XMP sidecars you can get Adobe to generate, and try and match them to DT operations. It won't be 100%, but having someone construct a program that knows roughly what LR op corresponds to what DT op, you can get most of it moved over...

...Probably not helpful in a practical sense, but now I'm curious. I just don't have any LR data with me to experiment with.

in reply to Teknikal_Domain

@tek_dmn @patrick_h_lauke sure its technically possible, but then you're just chasing them, and adobe makes it difficult to chase them on purpose. Take a look at the PSD file format if you need further proof.

We want to make good tools to edit your photos with, not spend time chasing Adobe formats.

in reply to darktable

@darktable I wonder if that's something that could be regulated: if a file format is introduced and maintained by a vendor in a monopolistic position on a market, the file format needs to be open, standardized, and not patent-encumbered.

It's a pipe dream, of course, but perhaps possible long-term.

@tek_dmn @patrick_h_lauke

in reply to Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

Dependence on any program that requires a license/subscription, only encourages other companies who haven't yet adopted those models, to at least explore the potential.

And as far as "tools for professionals" is concerned, I'd say more than that, we simply need good usable tools in general.

in reply to Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

"Adobe is warning some owners of its Creative Cloud…" – Not correct at all. Adobe is the only "owner" of its cloud. Boggles my mind that this can be news to people. You rent rights and own nothing.
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Inkscape

@Zergling_man
Inkscape will always be open source, so it is safe to assume there will always be an option to obtain it without paying, no matter what happens.

But yes, we're asking for donations, to make things like Hackfests, outreach and faster development possible.

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