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Today is the day I talk about what #Calckey is and what it does. 🧵

In this thread, I will explore what I believe to be the most important features of Calckey.

SPOILER ALERT: While Calckey focuses on microblogging, that's where its similarities with #Mastodon (and #Twitter) end.

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Let's first take a look at what #Calckey looks like in desktop mode.

As you can see, it's got a very media-rich presentation of a feed.

But there's also more!

On the right pane are some widgets. You can customize which widgets you see there. I opted to see trending hashtags and recent notifications.

On the left pane is the navbar. I'll get into that in a bit.

At the top are different feeds including home, local, social, recommended, global, lists, and antennaes.
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Here's a look at #Calckey in mobile mode.

The top displays different feeds.

The bottom has a navbar with a hamburger menu, home, notifications, chat, and widgets.

This can be installed as a progressive web app to your phone by "adding to Home screeen" when you visit a Calckey site.
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in reply to Chris Trottier

I prefer cheeseburger menus over hamburger menus.

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So far, so good. You see #Calckey's timeline for microblogging.

Let's now look at notifications.

Notifications can be displayed for

* All
* Unread
* Mentions
* Direct mentions

You can also filter your notifications by:

* New followers
* Boosts
* Quotes
* Reactions
* And many more!

Here's a screenshot what the notification nav bar looks like in mobile mode.

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in reply to Chris Trottier

The next prominent feature of #Calckey is chat.

Now I can't show you this exactly because that's private 😉

However, what's important to know is that this is distinct from Mastodon DMs, it's isolated from the main feed, and there's no mistaking chats for status updates.

This looks like a chat app.

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in reply to Chris Trottier

Yet another killer aspect of #Calckey is the Explore section. This is for content discovery -- finding people ("Users") to follow and posts that are gaining traction ("Featured").

Let's focused on the Users aspect of Explore. It helps you find users according to:

* Pinned (a.k.a., recommended)
* Popular
* Recently Active
* Newly Joined Users

There's all sorts of people to follow through the Explore section of Calckey

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in reply to Chris Trottier

The "Featured" portion of Explore shows the most popular posts divided into two options:

* Local: what's popular on your local #Calckey server
* Remote: what's popular across the Fediverse

This is excellent for finding stuff that already has lots of conversation so you can join in.

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in reply to Chris Trottier

In this post, you may have noticed lots of emoji reactions. Interestingly, some of these emojis are animated too.

To many people, this is the most compelling reason to use Calckey as this is a feature that's unsupported by Mastodon or Twitter.

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in reply to Chris Trottier

Like Twitter and Mastodon, #Calckey supports bookmarks. These are a private means to save posts to review at a later date.

Bookmarks are easily accessible through the navbar.
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in reply to Chris Trottier

If you like Facebook Groups, #Calckey has something similar. They are called "Channels".

Currently, they are localized to each Calckey server, but there are plans to federate them across the Fediverse.

Posts to channels (but not channels themselves) can be broadcast across the Fediverse.

This is one big difference between Calckey and Mastodon.

Here's a "Music Recommendations" channel on https://calckey.social.
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in reply to Chris Trottier

Let's now talk about search on #Calckey.

To be bluntly honest, Fediverse search needs a lot of work. I don't think one server software nails it yet.

However, unlike Mastodon, Calckey allows you to search across the Fediverse without need of hashtags (or for you to have interacted with the post previously).

This makes search a lot more extensible than on Mastodon.

Click this link to see it in action:

https://calckey.social/search?q=notifications

Also see screenshot.

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in reply to Chris Trottier

How's it do that? ElasticSearch on the full content? Or some other technique?

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This is another massive difference between #Calckey and Mastodon.

Calckey has a Drive!

That's right, a cloud storage feature! You can store whatever you want there: photos, music, documents, Zip files, etc.

Who needs Dropbox or Onedrive when you have Calckey?

As you can see in this screenshot, I'm storing diverse media.

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in reply to Chris Trottier

Pages! That's another big difference between #Calckey and Mastodon.

That's right, anyone can make a webpage using Calckey. This page does formats text, embeds images, and allows you to express yourself as you choose.

Here's an example of a Calckey page made by @youronlyone:

https://calckey.social/@youronlyone/pages/calckey-faq

Also see screenshot.

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Galleries is another key #Calckey feature.

Calckey allows you to add, curate, and write a description of user-made collection of images.

Here's an example of one person's gallery:

https://calckey.social/gallery/9e32jx7lu9

See screenshot of this gallery.

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in reply to Chris Trottier

Thanks for posting all this -- super helpful to get to see what all other fediverse apps can do.

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in reply to Chris Trottier

There's lots of other features that #Calckey has:

* Antennas
* Clips
* Comment trees
* Misskey Flavoured Markdown (MFM)
* Local-only posting
* Deck layout

Really, there's too much to list -- and if I tried, I'd be here all day.

But really, the only way to understand #Calckey is to give it a shot.

If Calckey intrigues you, go ahead and try it yourself.

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I would love to hear what Antennas and Clips are. I made a calckey.social account a week or so ago and was surprised to see stuff that didn't tell you what it does. Felt a bit like logging into the AWS dashboard and seeing stuff like "Route 53" instead of "DNS."

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in reply to Jer Warren

@nyquildotorg No question, there's a lot of documentation that still needs to happen with Calckey.

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in reply to Chris Trottier

Any experienced writers who would like to volunteer for the Calckey documentation team, that project is about to get better organized. We could use you. Please DM Chris or me.
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@shoq @nyquildotorg Indeed - I've been playing around on it a bunch more lately, and liking it a lot - the biggest complaint that I have now is that everything I've figured out how to do there has been trial/error

I'd offer to help w/ documentation, but for the facts that I 1) don't know what I'm doing, and 2) don't know how to write good
in reply to Chris Trottier

@Chris Trottier @Jer Warren #CalcKey is getting more and more similar to #Hubzilla, down to the documentation that leaves a lot to be desired. Seriously, Hubzilla has stuff mentioned in the user manual that has been removed years ago.

Only that Hubzilla has even more features, a much worse GUI (improvement is being worked on) and no working mobile app whatsoever because Nomad has been dead for so long that it doesn't even work with today's Hubzilla anymore.
in reply to Jupiter Rowland

@jupiter_rowland @nyquildotorg You're right about that. When I've come to #Calckey, I realize that there's so much that need explaining.

#Misskey Hub has some documentation, and that helps. But now that #Calckey has diverged, it needs to do the same.

https://misskey-hub.net/en/

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in reply to Jer Warren

Antennas are keyword alerts, basically. Like subscribing to hashtags in Mastodon, only for any old word you want.

I've been using Calckey for like 5 months now, and I still don't know what a clip is...
@atomicpoet@mastodon.social
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@kichae@kitchenparty.online@nyquildotorg@mastodon.social@atomicpoet@mastodon.social Clips are for collecting multiple posts! Like if you see 5 posts about a specific topic you want to save for later, you can put them into a clip instead of clogging up your regular bookmarks. Clips can also be shared with other people!
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@kainoa @kichae Oh, cool. Sort of like the old Twitter Moments then. Thank you for explaining!
in reply to Chris Trottier

You have my attention with webpage and cloud storage.

It's always been weird to me not having a cloud storage option, although NextCloud is decent.

I've recently had issues with websites that are fans of the twitter ceo guy, kicking me as I endorse the fediverse.

Though it hasn't happened on NextCloud.

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in reply to LWFlouisa

@LWFlouisa It's the flagship instance. There's a server list here:

https://calckey.org/join/
in reply to Chris Trottier

What has the access needs user research and accessibility testing been like for all of this?

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Please, please, show examples how to use #antennas !

IMO this is the least documented feature of calckey.

#calckey

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in reply to Chris Trottier

In theory, if I prefer it, could I swap out my personal mastodon instance for calckey on the same domain? Given the glue of federation is APub would the only issue be losing my history or would followers have issues at the change of underlying platform? 🤔

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in reply to Chris Trottier

Greate thread, you got me hooked.
Any recommendations on choosing an instance?

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big problem of Calckey, repeating/flooding the timeline every time with the very same note because someone is interacting with it. Very annoying.

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@spla That is an annoyance, and devs are mindful of that problem. It will probably be fixed.
in reply to Chris Trottier

They’re also on #Misskey too.

Hmmm, so that’s why they are called channels. Interesting!

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in reply to Trenton Matthews

@Trenton Matthews @Chris Trottier It can be a bit confusing, for it basically refers to the same as (discussion) groups or forums on other projects.

And "channel" has a wholly different meaning on Hubzilla and (streams).
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This looks simply amazing! Is it live, can anyone use this platform/web app?
in reply to Bruno Felix

@bruno Yes, you can sign up for Calckey at https://calckey.social

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in reply to Chris Trottier

The "how much of the day you've wasted on here" counter is a bold move that I wasn't expecting. Additionally the year percentage must be wrong since there's no way it's.. oh geezus it's May already.

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I love year/month/day progress widget in *key apps. Is does not seem useful at first in context of social networks but in fact it’s a great mindfulness tool and a wonderful aid for people with time blindness.

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Chris Trottier
@LabSpokane Mastodon seems like it's for very serious discussion, and Calckey seems more fun.

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I think this is where Calckey is winning because it has that "easy", "fun" appearance while allowing an incredible possibilities of what can be posted from complex codes to dynamic visualisations ...
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Chris Trottier
@LabSpokane You might want to look at the rest of the thread to see what #Calckey does. I talk about the many features that make it distinct from Mastodon.

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got in bc of your notice earlier.
it's a blast, so far. thanks !

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AI6YR Ben
@LabSpokane Isn't Calckey ActivityPub too? Doesn't really matter as long as it supports ActivityPub.
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@ai6yr
I know this sounds lazy, but all I (and most) people want to do is easily find and communicate with likeminded folks and share stuff. Every time something new comes along in the fediverse, it feels like a long, drawn-out research project to figure what the hell it is, if it has traction, how and if one would want to migrate, etc etc etc. Most people find this exhausting and lose interest. It really feels like nothing is going to stabilize and mature, but bifurcate more.
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@LabSpokane @ai6yr Actually, #Calckey is a fork of #Misskey, which predates Mastodon by two years.

The *key apps, as they are known, are the 2nd largest platform on the Fediverse.

And no, there isn't "one good thing" on the Fediverse -- there are many. That's the point of the Fediverse. Mastodon is but one portion of this.

If Mastodon works for you, great. But some people would prefer a different UI, or to have different features, or to interact with a different culture.

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I have made a test account on #Calckey and it is pretty fun and interesting. I do with @ivory would let me use it along with my #Mastodon instance without crashing. Maybe someday soon!

@fediversenews

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in reply to LabSpokane

As the leading Fediverse platform, it is up to Mastodon to drive user growth. The other platforms are not large enough nor have the resources to grow their respective user bases the way Mastodon has.

Mastodon literally the elephant of the Fediverse. The rest of us are just the birds sitting on its back.

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Further, I don't think it's wrong for other projects to exist -- especially since so many of them predate Mastodon.

#Misskey, which is what #Calckey is based off, predates Mastodon by two years!

Friendica started in 2010.

GNU Social is even older.

It's wild to me that so many folks believe Mastodon = Fediverse.
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@Bigou @MisterArix @ai6yr @LabSpokane Exactly! People are really looking at the Fediverse with Western eyes and aren't considering the fact that in Japan, #Misskey is many peoples' first exposure to the Fediverse.

#Calckey is building on what Misskey has already made.

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in reply to LabSpokane

@LabSpokane Well, it's kind of like an email program. Find one you like... That's the beauty of a (truly) protocol driven service. I never went running to the "latest and greatest" email client, and you don't have to feel like you have to, either... it's just a different interface to the same world.
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@MisterArix @ai6yr @LabSpokane

I'm trying to envision what this future looks like. Calckey seems like an attempt to give people everything they want in an online space, while Mastodon is very much of a Twitter experience. I think Calckey is more the model most people will want. But then some instances should be designed around the work of journalism or video or podcasting. I think many apps will only tie into a part of the capabilities of the server we are on.

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LWFlouisa
@themadcodger Just found one for robots, it was difficult to decide between the robots competition and the cloud server place.

I do chatbots, but I'm knowhere near ready to do robots yet.
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@Dennis Nunes :verified: @Chris Trottier Guess Mastodon needs an update for this. Just like a previous beta update brought the ability to see custom formatting. Friendica is already looking into this feature but they couldn't implement it properly so far.
in reply to Chris Trottier

Your long thread about #Calckey is very worthwhile. Interesting to see the myriad of functions in Calckey.

Nvrthlss, I expect that Mastodon also comes with essential functions such as quotes, thread layout, chat.

However, I'll stay on Mastodon mainly because of people who are NOT yet on Fediverse.

When in my contact details they see @mastodon.world, they have an idea where they can find me. When they would see @calckey, I expect they have no clue what that means.

@atomicpoet @fediversenews

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in reply to Chris Trottier

So this looks exactly like a Misskey fork, what’s the special sauce? As far as I remember from the one instance I was on, Misskey does all of these things out of the box.
in reply to slyborg

@slyborg There’s quite a few differences, including UI. The biggest difference for me, however, is that migration from Mastodon is possible, and there’s a compatibility layer with Mastodon’s API being built.

Post edits are being tested right now too.

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in reply to slyborg

It's also more optimized for the English language iirc, as opposed to the language defaulting to Japanese in many places. Great for people who don't understand Japanese but do understand English.
in reply to Chris Trottier

Thanks for this. Played with calckey the other day and enjoyed it but was a bit overwhelmed. This has given me a bit more info to digest

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excellent. May I just add a few things that were important for me ?
• Already has a nice tree view
• Mute has another great variant: Mute only the boosts !
• Instance cloud & in-post display of the software on the other end
~ Does not render bidi text correctly, yet 😔
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Kevin Davidson
@LabSpokane This sounds very “Any colour you like, as long as it’s black”. With cars there’s a wide choice of different manufacturers, with different designs of vehicles that all share the same road. Some suit particular use cases, and others are better for different people. They all share the same roads.
The exact same thing with different ActivityPub servers and clients. You can pick the combination that works best for you, but we all share the same network.
in reply to Chris Trottier

everyone talking about cool features, but doesn't mention all misskey-based software curse:

Horribly slow, over-bloated front-end

It even has fucking scripting language. Implemented in fucking JavaScript.

It takes THREE spinners to show a post. And even more layout shifts. Maybe for someone who are used to twitter this is usual, but this is not okay

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@LabSpokane This is the problem. Nobody can agree on what “good” means. Capping posts at 500 characters? No! Long posts. Styled text or plain text? Is four images in a post enough? Four options in a poll? Should the web interface indicate which platform other people are using, or hide that information from you? There’s no right answer, just preferences.
in reply to Chris Trottier

@Chris Trottier @LabSpokane there is no *compelling* reason, but you can use more features with Calckey, for example.
Everyone can find the Fediverse software that best suits their needs and tastes. To try it out first or for different application focuses, it can make sense to have several accounts with different software.
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@william maggot̶s [IL], #Calckey is doing an excellent job of expanding on the greatness #Misskey has built. And #Mastodon, despite its popularity and newishness, remains the(?) most limiting ways to interact with the Fediverse.

There already exist instances that cover each of these things.
some instances should be designed around the work of journalism or video or podcasting

|journalism: #Plume #WriteFreely
|video: #PeerTube #Owncast
|podcasting: #Funkwhale #Castopod

Having this separation of duties and keeping things modular lets each tool do the best it can for the task it was designed. There are plenty of other modular parts of the fediverse out there as well. Check out the Fediverse Party or FediDB sites for a more extensive listing, or the Fediverse Observer page if you crave a bit more.

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@Benoegen In #Calckey (and also in #Misskey & #Foundkey) there is the feature of "Antennas". This allows you to define (and combine) keywords to follow - more than just following hashtags. @Chris Trottier

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