Nope. If anything people should have been completely convinced by now that I am right over the past 20 months. The 'aircraft carrier' is the cheap excuse from the same guy who destroyed the US global reputation so Israel can do genocide.

Are we watching the US and Europe destroying their entire reputation so Israel can do a genocide or not? Nobody can explain this away with convenience factor. This genocide is in no way beneficial to the empire.

Christian Zionists such as Genocide Joe are indeed also a reason this is happening, but they too do not support Israel for any pragmatic cause which would benefit the empire such as being an aircraft carrier.

Countries such as Egypt, UAE and Saudi are infinitely more obedient than Israel which does things like the USS liberty and selling American secrets to Russia.

hexbear.net/comment/6223363

Isntreal is a military base masquerading as a country.

reaper_cushions [he/him, comrade/them]

2025-06-09 09:55:06

For Germany: Israel is an indulgence for the Holocaust.

For the USA: Israel is an unsinkable aircraft carrier in a largely hostile region that is protected by international law.

For the rest of Western Europe: They are vassals of the US, so naturally they don’t want to piss of their daddy.

For everyone else: they don’t want to provoke the US either.

I have. Nobody seems to be able to explain why America is not stopping Israel from committing genocide.

Besides this, Israel is also probably the least reliable 'aircraft carrier' as it has turned on the US to collude with Russia many times in the past. And there is no doubt that Israel will gladly team up with China or Russia if the winds start blowing the other way.

This genocide is in no way beneficial to the empire.

They want the Gaza Marine Gas field. They don't want the financial risk of the Palestinian people attacking the facilities and transportation.

Then they would have cleansed all the Palestinians into Egypt at the start.

There is nothing worse for the reputation of Israel and the West than getting these types of headlines every single day because they had to be literal cartoon villains and shoot 30 Palestinians trying to find food at an aid point.

If this ends with the ethnic cleansing of Gaza, which it might, doing it at day 600 instead of day 30 makes absolutely no sense.

It is not the negative news, but the repetition of negative news which sticks in people's heads.

Do you mean governments or people?

People don't have much power here. Other than boycotts, what can people do?

For governments, Israel is fairly powerful. They have powerful lobbyists, and aren't shy to leverage claims of antisemitism against anybody who speaks up against Israel. In many cases, there's also the guilt over how jews were treated in WWII. This is one reason Germany is so incredibly pro-Israel. Then there's the fact that Israel is still more-or-less a democracy, which makes it unique in the middle east. It's the one country in the region pushing back against various Islamic fundamentalist goverments, movements and terrorist groups. Many countries don't want to lose that "friend".

And then there's spyware. Most of the best spyware in the world is produced in Israel. Some cynical people would say that countries don't want to lose access to the world's best producer of spyware. Some even more cynical people would say that that spyware has already been used on politicians and Israel is using it for blackmail. Who knows what the right level of cynicism is.

The American hegemony runs on soft power and American exceptionalism. Showing other nations that they can... starve women and children in a concentration camp... is not what I would call a "great showing of might".

Even the MIC sales in Gaza are not that huge. Ukraine is making the MIC tonnes more money while the Western hegemony fully believes it is doing the right thing.

Gaza is the dumbest and least significant hill to die on for the empire. But it dead set to die on it.

She had a pre recorded “please help us because IDF kidnapped us” video. They wanted this exact response and knew they would get it.

Even North Korea are less predictable than this.

Was gonna say, they’ve not been given any reason to care about international law.

Although, I swear I saw that the ICC put out a warrant for Bibi.

Nah this is not the hill you should be dying on. This is literally ahistorical non materialist analysis with a dose of antisemitism.

Where do you think the Israel lobby gets its funding lmao.

#BringThemHome

Good thing Sweden isn't Israel or else they'd have bombed their hospitals already.

there's no "legally" what, they enter Gaza territoral waters, only gaza has authority to regulate it's territorial waters.

Israel has no right to control Gaza's waters.

No the US empire has many ties with other countries in order to allow their bases to be there.

USAID and all the other mass propaganda outlets and mainstream news networks have a purpose. Whitewash the empire.

If you are on Lemmygrad, that should be known to you.

Also, the empire just took the L from the Taliban. So in terms of hard power, nobody is really impressed anyways. A show of hard power would be if they got Ukraine to win the war. Not a genocide against women and children lmao

They abducted her in international waters. Don’t try to legitimize that. They stopped her on the basis of trafficking weapons to Hamas. Israel and Egypt acknowledge that stopping humanitarian aid in international waters is a violation of their treaty, and yet Israel did it anyways.

If you try to rationalize this type of behavior, what else do you rationalize?

You should look into the atrocities that have been committed at Israel/Us “aid” checkpoints, specifically the massacre of innocent, starving people.

there's also the guilt over how jews were treated in WWII.

How many are still alive? That excuse has long expired.

the region pushing back against various Islamic fundamentalist goverments

You can thank the CIA for that.

Because American soft power is getting destroyed. What do you think the 'rules based international order' theater was for? The entire illusion the empire crafted so carefully over the last decades has come crashing down.

Or maybe provide any evidence whatsoever for Israel colluding with Russia lol

military.com/history/jonathan-…

Another great example is Israel explicitly telling Europe they cannot send weapons their weapons Ukraine because they want to stay friends with Russia. Including putting it in the terms for the Israeli Pulse missile system. which many European countries are now buying. Nice ally lmao.

Jonathan Pollard Was One of the Most Damaging Spies in US History

Much of the intelligence Jonathan Pollard provided to Israel may have ended up in the Soviet Union.

^{Blake Stilwell (Military.com)}

Soft power failure does nothing to explain how the US would benefit from suddenly reversing course completely on Israel to oppose this specific genocide.

The article you posted contains no evidence at all to support your claims. At one point it says "Some of his disclosures are said to have ended up in the hands of the Soviet Union, which many believe were traded by Israel to the USSR in exchange for the continued emigration of Soviet Jewish citizens to Israel" but presents no evidence to support that, and links to another article that presents the same claim with also no evidence. Try again.

Ending the genocide does not mean opposing it. Israel orchestrating it in this way is the dumbest thing possible. Even Hitler had more tact during the Holocaust about hiding his genocide and that's not a compliment for Hitler.

The guy transfered military secrers to Russia.

Also newsweek.com/israel-flagged-to…

Israel Flagged as Top Spy Threat to U.S. in New Snowden/NSA Document

Israel was identified by the NSA as a security threat in several areas, including "the threat of development of weapons of mass destruction"

^{Jeff Stein (Newsweek)}

tiny amount of aid

This is like someone with a micropenis criticizing the genitals of a kitten.

Raping? Really? It's a war it's literally the thing we've been doing since the beginning of time.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual…

Again, it's a war we likely won't know the full extent of anything really but to take the basic assumption that any combatant force doesn't have rapists would be both contrary to history and basic statistics.

It's one example which was highly publicized.

If you're under the impression either side isn't raping you're absolutely fooling yourself. One side isn't actively in the process of genociding stick with that instead of whatabouting rape and murder since both sides do that in every war just generally in different degrees/quantities.

It's not a war crime, it was a warning bomb.

Fucking genocidal assholes