Willem Schinkel schreef een kritisch opinieartikel over de herbewapening van Europa.
Tommy Wieringa valt hem daar nu hard om aan.
Tommy Wieringa doet daarbij precies wat Willem Schinkel voorspelde, door Schinkel voor Poetin apologeet uit te maken, en te suggereren dat iedereen die niet voor een bewapeningsexplosie is, wel fout moet zijn. Het is van een intellectuele armoede, die me eerder voorgewend dan werkelijk lijkt te zijn.
Ik zag ook een paar dingen in het opinieartikel van Schinkel waar ik het niet volledig mee eens ben. Ik ben het er trouwens wel mee eens dat de NAVO een rol heeft gehad in het ontstaan van de oorlog, maar net als Schinkel ben ik van mening dat de rol van Rusland vele malen groter was - beetje flauw dat Wieringa dat weglaat.
En Wieringa bevestigt direct Schinkels gelijk door hem neer te zetten als... inderdaad, Poetin Versteher, of in de woorden van Tommy: "Bij Russia Today zien ze hem graag aanschuiven als duider." Wat een enorme stropop drogreden zeg.
Wieringa gaat verder op die tour, door te stellen dat Schinkel schrijft dat Russische wanen "voortkomen uit de eeuwenlange pogingen van het Westen om Rusland te veroveren."
Dat is echter helemaal niet wat Schinkel schrijft.
Willem schrijft:
"Een oriëntatie op vrede die de cirkel van escalatie en bewapening doorbreekt, behelst vanzelfsprekend niet dat Rusland verantwoordelijkheid ontloopt voor de oorlog in Oekraïne, en voor oorlogsmisdaden zoals het vrijwel dagelijks bombarderen van burgers. De-escalatie en een oprechte, niet door wapenindustriële belangen gekleurde gerichtheid op vrede vergen wel een begrip van wat de ander motiveert, en van diens verhaal over de geschiedenis. In geval van Rusland behelst die eeuwen van West-Europese pogingen Rusland te veroveren. Russen die met dat verhaal leven, zullen een andere lezing geven van het richting Rusland kruipen van de NAVO dan Nederlanders."
Hij schrijft dus eerder dat het idee dat het Westen Rusland al eeuwen wil veroveren, één van de Russische wanen is. En overigens, dat Wieringa zich daar niets anders bij kan voorstellen dan Hitler en Napoleon, is volkomen belachelijk. Blijkbaar is hij de Witte Legers en de Koude Oorlog vergeten.
Schinkel wordt tot Poetin apologeet verklaard omdat hij zegt dat je ergens niet uit kan komen als je de ander niet begrijpt. Maar er is een verschil tussen iemand begrijpen, en het met iemand eens zijn. Dat Wieringa dat niet wil begrijpen lijkt me onwil: zo dom is hij niet.
Het is een feit dat Europa bang wordt gemaakt voor oorlog, dat het naar de pijpen van Trump danst die gewoon meer omzet wil draaien in de wapenfabrieken, en dat er (zeker vergeleken met België) geen enkele echte discussie is geweest in Nederland voordat er (door een demissionair kabinet!) besloten werd dat we de komende jaren miljarden moeten bezuinigen op onze samenleving omdat er nu eenmaal killer robots geproduceerd moeten worden.
Van mij mag je best van mening verschillen of het verstandig is om te bewapenen tegen Rusland. Maar misschien kunnen we daarover van mening verschillen zonder de typische oorlogsretoriek van "wie niet met ons is, is tegen ons en een landverrader".
Schinkels artikel kun je hier lezen als je weinig geld hebt.
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in reply to Sarah Taber • • •If you started paying attention to the US in 1960, this sure feels like the darkest timeline. But unfortunately, purges against Black & brown people are normal US behavior.
You know what's NOT normal US behavior?
This is the first time there's been a mass movement to STOP a purge in real time.
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in reply to Sarah Taber • • •This is new and unusual. To get an idea of how weird this is, let's take a quick tour of some of the many times the US federal government has officially persecuted entire groups of people.
And what (if any) pushback there was at the time.
Sarah Taber
in reply to Sarah Taber • • •1929-1939: the US "repatriated" somewhere between 300K and 2M Mexican Americans. No due process. The federal government removed them from the US to "stop them from competing with Americans for jobs."
About half of the deported people were US citizens.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_…
mass repatriation of Mexicans and Mexican-Americans during the Great Depression
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in reply to Sarah Taber • • •Few if any Anglo Americans seemed to have a problem with this.
Mexican Americans ran the court battles, protests, and educational campaigns against forced deportation on their own. While they were struggling to keep their families together day by day.
Sarah Taber
in reply to Sarah Taber • • •WW2: the US jails 120,000 people, who hadn't been charged of any crime, as a "precaution." 2/3 were US citizens. Many were farmers. White folks wanted their land, & got it.
The loss of so many skilled farmers dented the US food system & made it harder to fight the war.
qz.com/1201502/japanese-intern…
Sarah Taber
in reply to Sarah Taber • • •Some white Americans did publicly oppose rounding up their Japanese neighbors. They were in the minority & overruled.
Resistance was limited to individual efforts to tone down the impact of incarceration- tending jailed neighbors' farms while they were away, sending supplies to the camps, etc.
Sarah Taber
in reply to Sarah Taber • • •Operation Wetback, 1954: a federal program to hunt down & deport undocumented immigrants from Mexico.
Somewhere between 1.1 and 1.5 million were rounded up & deported.
And yet again, many were documented migrants or US citizens.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operatio…
1950s U.S. immigration law enforcement initiative
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in reply to Sarah Taber • • •Public outrage over the many US citizens deported caused Operation Wetback to get its funding pulled. … After 3 months & over 1 million people deported.
This was the fastest a purge ever got rolled back. But it still took people a while to notice & stop it. At the supposed peak of US unity.
Sarah Taber
in reply to Sarah Taber • • •Slavery & Jim Crow: millions of Americans held in captive labor.
Enslaved & sharecropping farm workers knew things were bad! They did what they could to push back the whole time.
But that wasn't enough. Both slavery & Jim Crow finally ended when a critical mass of white Americans decided they should. Not even the majority of white Americans. Just a critical mass. And it took us ~250 and close to 100 years to get there, respectively.
Sarah Taber
in reply to Sarah Taber • • •The US & its preceding colonies were at war with tribes ~each year from 1610 - 1920s- 300 years.
There was more opposition from white folks than you'd think; but it wasn't broad-based, organized, or effective. We're still breaking treaties with tribes today.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American…
frontier conflicts between American, Canadian and European settlers and Indigenous peoples of the Americas
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in reply to Sarah Taber • • •Sometimes, replacing tribes with settlers wasn't enough. The federal gov't put in the work to keep the new guys down too.
When coal miners went on strike, they sent in the National Guard. To push people back into the mines at gunpoint.
My grandma left Harlan Co so she didn't get stuck in company store debt for life.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_War…
Coal Wars - Wikipedia
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in reply to Sarah Taber • • •So it's frustrating to hear things like "This is the darkest timeline" and "late-stage capitalism."
Yes things suck & you gotta vent. But... do people think the US started in 1960?
We really forget our country, and capitalism, *started* with people on the auction block.
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in reply to Sarah Taber • • •When you know what the US has been about this whole time, that really puts the current moment in perspective.
We've been up to some ugly, ugly stuff. And it usually gets either silence or applause.
2025 is a whole different animal. The response has been strong and immediate. We had *preemptive* mass mobilization.
By millions of people who *aren't* being targeted by raids, jailing, and deportation. (Yet. 🙃)
That's never happened in US history before. This is different.
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in reply to Sarah Taber • • •That's why the right keeps sniveling about how they're under attack. Even while they're successfully pulling off another purge.
They're not used to getting yelled at when they blow taxpayer dollars on witch hunts, they're used to getting high-fives at the country club.
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in reply to Sarah Taber • • •We still have a long way to go. And it's frustrating bc we have leaders who supposedly want to run our country better, and they plain don't have the levers to do much. I'm not making excuses.
I'm just pointing out how weird it is for the US to even *have* leaders who want to do better.
Sarah Taber
in reply to Sarah Taber • • •We have so much more going for us than any generation that's tried to stop these things before.
And yes, that's left us without much of a playbook on how to do this kind of change quickly.
These movements usually take decades or centuries to build up steam.
This time, we already had one in place when the problems started. That's weird & nobody knows what to do.
Sarah Taber
in reply to Sarah Taber • • •So if you're looking at the US & thinking "This isn't the country I know," you're 100% right. It's not.
We're actually fighting back in real time for once.
Sarah Taber
in reply to Sarah Taber • • •I know it doesn't feel like much to be proud of right now, because we're nowhere close to done.
But you deserve to know- in the middle of all of this, we ARE making history right now.
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Thanks Sarah. It's important perspective, both on the brutal history of this flawed nation and how things are tangibly different today than in the past.
For what it's worth I totally understand the, it's worse than it's ever been, I don't recognize this country, sentiment. I think for a lot of us (some millennials, gen Z & beyond) it's "worse than it's been in my lifetime", and it's not just the horrendously racist and cruel acts of 🧊 and their ilk, I think it's colored by the rest of the environment. The rollback of rights that seemed solidified, whether from before some of our lifetimes or for much of it (or especially our adult lives), everything that feels like a reversal of progress, even the 🏒-graph greedflation, all at once. I empathize with how hard it is not to see doom when you can't afford your rent or even a 🍔 (at home or fast food), your healthcare is getting taken away, your neighbors are getting kidnapped, and you or your 🏳️⚧️ loved ones are being actively targeted.
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in reply to Sarah Taber • • •Didn't realize how much I needed to hear this, especially today.
Thanks for taking the time to put this out there.
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in reply to Sarah Taber • • •Supportive evidence:
"Contrary to conventional wisdom, the size and scale of anti-Trump protests this year have dwarfed those in 2017, and they have been extraordinarily peaceful." - #EricaChenoweth, #SohaHammam, #JeremyPressman, and #ChristopherWileyShay June 12, 2025
"... at least through April and May, protesters associated with the anti-Trump movement were extraordinarily nonviolent in their tactics." [1]
[2][1] wagingnonviolence.org/2025/06/…
[2] wagingnonviolence.org/wp-conte…
American Spring? How nonviolent protest in the US is accelerating
Erica Chenoweth (Waging Nonviolence)Cavyherd
in reply to Sarah Taber • • •There's another factor at play here, also. Not only are we seeing a backlash in realtime but, possibly even more important, we're seeing into the perspectives of the target populations, also in realtime, in a way that hasn't been possible or available before.
The humanity of the marginalized groups is much more visible than previously. & that humanity is MUCH harder to gloss over with propaganda than it used to be.
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in reply to Sarah Taber • • •the solutions are there, plainly, same ones as before.
Lacking is will. Apathy kills.
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in reply to Sarah Taber • • •This is deeply heartening to read — I’m a few days late, but thanks.
I’m a history teacher and yet I still constantly need reminding of historical context, because it’s the counterbalance to the urgency one feels (and should feel) in being in the moment.
John Abbe (aka Slow)
in reply to Sarah Taber • • •I think I hear you, this scale of response this quickly being new. That, makes sense and suggests how key it is to get more coverage of that resistance and especially its successes out there, so that it can keep growing quickly.
Curious if you are you drawing on any particular sources that bring a lot of that history together?
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in reply to Sarah Taber • • •Thank you for this perspective. I really needed it.
“My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, TO BE SET RIGHT.”
-Carl Schurz
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in reply to Sarah Taber • • •I'd be interested in the "more opposition from white folks than you'd think" part.
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in reply to Sarah Taber • • •And they all came back after a nice visit with cousins in #Mexico.
Humans are among the most migratory species on the planet! nationalmagazine.ca/en-ca/arti…
#Immigration #Resist and #DoNotComply with #ICE #Gestapo.
Strong immigration policy must see humans as a migratory species
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in reply to Sarah Taber • • •American exceptionalism strikes again.
We think of ourselves as special, so anything we personally experience is the superlative, because it's happening in our present.
This is what they mean about people who don't study history.
We are not setting the benchmarks on anything except as relates to the climate crisis. Which isn't new, either, but which is demonstrably worsening.
Jargoggles
in reply to Sarah Taber • • •"They're rounding people up just because of their skin color and locking them up!"
Yeah, like you said, I'm just glad people are speaking up about this in a big way because this has been happening for decades. I think one of the key differences is that they've dropped the pretense that what they're doing is "justice."
Liberals have been more than happy to lock black and brown people up en masse as long as they can run them through the system first. If someone is convicted of a crime, they're completely okay with throwing them in prison. Does "convicted" mean "guilty?" Should what they were convicted of even be a crime? We've never really had a meaningful conversation about that in this country.
But the numbers really speak for themselves. Things *were not okay* before Trump was elected. When this fascist regime falls apart, we *cannot* go back to how things were before.
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in reply to Sarah Taber • • •Sure you're making history.
Don't expect anyone to respect it.
Do we wish Americans Happy independence day'?
From who exactly?
From the thousands dying now abandoned by USAID, or those in Ukraine who suffer by the reduction in military aid? Or maybe from Palestinians shot by so called 'American aid contractors'? Or maybe the 132,000 trans people who will now be denied medical care?
Yeah. Happy 'Independence Day', assholes.
#happy4thofjuly #july4th
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in reply to Sarah Taber • • •This is a great, informed take. Not rose colored glasses but forward thinking and historically grounded. I couldn't agree more about the whole 'this being the worst timeline' being really problematic. That's a cop out; that's throwing your hands up; that's giving yourself an excuse to give up and not try. It's showing a lack of imagination, if you truly cant think of worse things. There were times during the Cold War people lived in constant fear of nuclear annihilation. It's also showing a lack of historical knowledge, especially knowing that the underlying issues of what is happening (racism, sexism) are foundational particularly to Western culture, and human culture in general. We've never actually had a reckoning with our past (or present). To think that these issues were just going to go away quietly is naive, or that somehow with education we had suddenly become not-racist. It's also not surprising that we are having a hard time forming a coherent resistance party given how much technology has changed politics in the last 20 years, and given the diversity and complexity of g
... Show more...This is a great, informed take. Not rose colored glasses but forward thinking and historically grounded. I couldn't agree more about the whole 'this being the worst timeline' being really problematic. That's a cop out; that's throwing your hands up; that's giving yourself an excuse to give up and not try. It's showing a lack of imagination, if you truly cant think of worse things. There were times during the Cold War people lived in constant fear of nuclear annihilation. It's also showing a lack of historical knowledge, especially knowing that the underlying issues of what is happening (racism, sexism) are foundational particularly to Western culture, and human culture in general. We've never actually had a reckoning with our past (or present). To think that these issues were just going to go away quietly is naive, or that somehow with education we had suddenly become not-racist. It's also not surprising that we are having a hard time forming a coherent resistance party given how much technology has changed politics in the last 20 years, and given the diversity and complexity of global problems we are facing. Let's give this issue, the rise of violent ultra-nationalism in the 21st century, its due as the complex historical problem that it is and not get frustrated when we can't solve it or defeat it in six months. But like you say, there are signs that American society as a whole, not just those directly persecuted, are resisting in ways that are novel. We are far from powerless here and I'm really tired of takes that paint us as such.
#USpol #CanadaPolitics #EUpol #resist #NoKings #Protest
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in reply to Sarah Taber • • •People pretend that we just became a #WhiteSupremacy.
No.
It has been bipartisan and centuries old.
This is the death throws, and they are willing to throw out everything to keep it.
Nothing is off the table for them.
But everything they do can be undone.
EVERYTHING!
We just need the will.
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