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@Doorbraak.eu aan Grymt:

"Hoi, hier Eric van de redactie van Doorbraak. Zouden we het stukje dat je gisteren hier schreef over de SDF/Rojava mogen overnemen op onze website Doorbraak. eu?"

Grymt aan Doorbraak:

"Als je eerst eindelijk je excuses maakt voor dit ontzettend kloterige stukje, graag.

👉️ doorbraak.eu/waarom-wij-niet-m…

Mag je ook nog even de accounts van @Grutjes deblokkeren, die je blokkeerde nadat het blog je beleefd verzocht om in gesprek te gaan over die bizarre aantijgingen.
Oh en als je toch eindelijk eens verantwoording neemt mag je ook nog even sorry zeggen tegen Anja Meulenbelt wiens foto je zonder toestemming te vragen van de website van Grutjes hebt gejat om boven je aanval te zetten.

Groetjes,
de 3 vrouwen en 1 man, waaronder 2 moslims, die protesteerden tegen Pegida en daarom volgens jullie "paternalistische, om niet te zeggen racistische, witte do-gooders" zouden zijn."

in reply to Grymt

Ach, de helden hebben nu ook mij geblockt.

Wat een eikels zijn jullie toch, Doorbraak. En het is zo ontzettend onnodig. Je had dit gewoon kunnen uitpraten, zelfs na je belachelijke persoonlijke aanval, zelfs nadat je ervoor koos om niet Pegida maar de activisten tégen Pegida aan te vallen.

In plaats daarvan dit totaal laffe gedrag. Je strijdmakkers in de rug aanvallen en wegduiken.
En waarom? De enige reden die ik er voor kan bedenken is dat je zo kan laten zien aan de wereld dat je nog woker dan woke bent. Als je degene kunt aanvallen die naast je staat te vechten, in plaats van degene waarmee we zouden moeten vechten, dan ben je vast nog meer incrowd dan die kameraad, dan ben je vast moreel superieur en moeten mensen naar je luisteren.

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Ik vloek met je mee. Waarom.moeten altijd weer de radicale democratische krachten geopolitiek het onderspit delven. Waarom weer, voor de zoveelste keer, worden de Koerden genaaid. Het is om helemaal gek van te worden. Mijn solidariteit hebben ze, onvoorwaardelijk. Ga de straat op, steun ze, sta naast ze.
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A woman FINALLY touched him. Also, he spelled INCEL wrong.

(Jake Lang, a neo nazi convicted for attacking police with a baseball bat, but pardoned by Troempfff, thought he could conquer Minneapolis with a few bad ideas and just a few fellow nazi's.
He was brought down by a woman, and chased away by hundreds of people fed up with the Maga cult.

He would probably have suffered a fate better suited to creeps like him, were it not for one of the people protesting him, who protected him from physical harm. His protector happened to be a black man.

I'm sure he could learn something from the fact that he was no match for the "weaker se x", and the fact he needed a black man to survive despite his fake ICE armor.
I'm also quite sure he could learn from that, but he won't.

So let it be us who take the lesson: These people are very well suited to chasing through the streets, and we are very well suited to motivating them to do so.)

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Thanks for the many boosts & comments!
It's important people know that Bsky app collaborates with ICE & other fascists by allowing them accounts, even after they verified them.

(Verification is not a problem. Not deleting their account afterwards is!)

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Now some people take the opportunity to tell everyone they are not surprised.
I understand, neither am I. You probably warned for this to happen, just like me.

But I'm not sure how telling everyone you're not surprised is helping anyone.

Maybe the important thing is not whether it's surprising, but how bad it is.
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If someone says it's totally OK if ICE is on Bsky, please don't hold back.

People who say that ICE should be able to have an account on social media (or anywhere) as long as they obey the TOS, are the same people who think it was totally OK for nazi's to commit the Holocaust, as nazi law didn't say it was illegal to murder Jews.

It's centrists like that who brought us to this point, and I deeply hate them for it.
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But if someone expresses shock that Bsky allows ICE in... I think that's actually a GOOD thing.

At least it shows they care.
Hopefully they'll conclude they're better off organizing themselves at decentral, non commercial social media like the Fediverse. Organize to resist fascism & surveillance capitalism at the same time.

However, telling them you're NOT surprised, maybe even telling them how smart you are compared to them, isn't going to win more people over, is it?

We need each other.

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in reply to Grutjes

agreed on the first post of this two-part thread and also the second. It is not okay for ICE to be on Bsky, but it is for those who saw it coming not very surprising, but then again if someone's shocked by it happening then that's a good sign that at least they're realising now and "lol I knew that'd happen" is not a great way to respond

We can't all have always known all there is to know about everything

in reply to Grutjes

I understand where you're coming from, but this reasoning seems too full of unintended consequences to me. if ICE were to set up an account on some fediverse server, or even set up its own fediverse server, what would your response be, aside from presumably blocking it? would you leave the fediverse over it, and call out anyone else who didn't do likewise?
in reply to Alexandre Oliva

@lxo

This is exactly the point in which the Fediverse is far better than Bsky (Bsky is decentralised in their marketing but not in reality)

If ICE would make an account on for example BadlyModeratedMastodonServer.social, and they would not get kicked off by the server moderators, almost all other servers would defederate from that server. Just like we defederated from Trumps truth.social (which was built upon mastodon)

Communal action in stead of individual blocking.

in reply to Grutjes

@lxo
Taking responsibility and ousting nazis as a community, in stead of behaving like an individual consumer.

You don't need to leave the Fediverse if one server goes bad. You can isolate nazi's and cut their server from the global community, protecting everyone in it.

in reply to Grutjes

so it looks like we're in agreement

I guess you will also agree on why your earlier messaging was problematic: it sounded like the issue was that they could get an account, and could get it verified, but these same affordances would be available to them with pretty much any ActivityPub-compatible server software, whether operated by themselves or even by some third parties.

the key difference, as you pointed out in response to my question, and which I advise you to focus your messaging on, is on how the server operators and the community would or could respond.

another IMHO problematic messaging weakness in the choice of use of the cartoon, is that it brings to (my?) mind the frequent nazi bar argument, that could lead people to react by leaving the space to the incoming fascists, instead of standing strong there and isolating them or pushing their hateful behaviors out. that association may be a "me" overreaction, because that argument's defeatism and manipulative nature often trigger me, and you hopefully didn't mean any of that, but it may be something to keep in mind

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@lxo

Sorry, I don't think my "messaging is problematic"

1. You want answers from me about Fediverse, but my thread was not about Fediverse but about Bsky.
I'm fine with a short continuation into new territory, changing the subject a bit, but it's not problematic that my 1st post was not about the subject YOU want to talk about.

2. No, of course most activity pub servers would not allow ICE to make AND KEEP an account. Servers that do should be defederated instantly, otherwise yes, nazi bar.

in reply to Grutjes

@lxo

I guess and hope we agree on the idea that moderaters should kick ICE out immediately, if they would make an account on a server.

This, by the way, is the goal of the "nazi bar argument" as well. The goal is not to make space for nazi's, the goal is to not accept them at your table.

in reply to Grutjes

Probably easier to make fun of them there though.

Shrug?

I've got better things to do of course.


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It’s not clear how many Iranians inside Iran support former crown prince Reza Pahlavi — but he’s definitely Israel’s favorite. theintercept.com/2026/01/13/ir…

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Just got back from a protest in a small/mid-size US city. The crowd (approx. 5000) was as big or bigger than the No Kings crowd, but much younger and more angry.
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Eens, maar ik werk dan en heb ook geen geld om.naar Agga te komen (als het weer gewijs wel lukt)


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Dear politicians,

Our wish for #2026: Stop using 'child safety' as an excuse for mass censorship and surveillance.

No one believes you.

And using children is just... sickening.

#2026
in reply to Tuta

If they cared one bit about children they would have used the UN charter to raise a large army to go in and protect the children (and their families) in Gaza. They didn't even mention it.
in reply to Tuta

I'm behind this, but many still believe censorship is for protecting children. A side-effect to pushing digital ID & age checks is to virtue signal parents they can rely on digital nanny services while never really following through with the actual protections. It is false advertising, deceptive, and removes the responsibility of parents being aware of their children's exposure on the Internet. Age verification isn't needed when parents are involved with their children's welfare.
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Als je naar de helft van de reacties kijkt hier, ben je dan eigenlijk erg verbaasd dat het Fediverse zo wit is? En onder andere Black Twitter, na een korte poging hier, heeft gemaakt dat ze weg kwam naar Bluesky?
in reply to Grymt

Sommigen blijven doen alsof Bardot alleen op het eind wel eens rechtse dingen zei, onder invloed van haar man. Maar dat is bollocks.
Zoals je op deze foto ziet was Bardot al heel haar leven fascist.

1958: Brigitte Bardot with Jean-Marie Le Pen and Pierre Lagaillarde, future co-founder of the far-right terrorist Organisation armée secrète (OAS, "Secret Army Organisation").

De OAS was een fascistische terreurorganisatie die Algerije als kolonie voor Frankrijk wilde behouden. Ze pleegden duizenden bomaanslagen en moorden, en martelden op industriële schaal. Ze hebben naar schatting (wikipedia) 12.500 mensen vermoord.

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Ja, als je het zo op een rijtje zet, klinkt Bardot best wel als een forking nazi. Zo erg kan het niet zijn want mannen geilden op haar en dat is #natuurlijk puur vanwege haar normen en waarden.

😁😉😉😉

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RE: mastodon.social/@nixCraft/1157…

Happy birthday @torvalds … so appreciate your life’s work and the many good things it did and inspired.


In 1991, a uni student from Finland started a "hobby" project because he couldn't afford to pay expensive Unix license that could run on a commodity hardware. At the time, he told on the mailing list that his project wouldn't be anything "big or professional."

It turned out that he was totally wrong.

Happy 56th Birthday to the creator of Linux kernel and git, Linus Torvalds! May you live healthy and happy forever. Thank you for all your hard work and providing us employment and keep it FLOSS😊


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Zoals je weet wil de Tweede Kamer het bestaan van mensen zonder papieren strafbaar maken. Dit terwijl hun kinderen gewoon naar school mogen en ze zelf naar de dokter moeten kunnen. Dit terwijl velen van hen geen keuze hebben: China neemt mensen die uit China vluchten bijvoorbeeld niet terug.

Deze PVV wet moet nog door de Eerste Kamer, waar een meerderheid al heeft aangekondigd dat ze hem willen steunen...

Amnesty heeft een toffe actie om nog te proberen senators op andere gedachten te brengen. Stuur ze (gratis) een kaartje!

Als je mee wil doen?
amnesty.nl/acties/gk-eerste-ka…

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in reply to Grymt

Dit was mijn tekst, maar je kunt natuurlijk ook zelf iets verzinnen:

"Geachte senator,
Fascisten zullen altijd proberen om mensen buiten de wet te stellen, en hun bestaan strafbaar te maken.

Maar "nooit meer", dat is nu.

De Grondwet geldt voor iedereen, zelfs voor criminelen, en ook voor mensen die (vaak buiten hun schuld) niet terug kúnnen.

Bestraf fout gedrag, maar nooit het bestaan van iemand. Collaboreer niet met deze wet uit de koker van PVV."

amnesty.nl/acties/gk-eerste-ka…



Hoi #CDA, kunnen jullie even luisteren?
Met je ontiegelijke kloteplannen samen met #D66, om de IVA af te schaffen, zieke mensen in de WIA "te activeren", de WW te slopen, bijstand en AOW los te koppelen van lonen, en asielzoekers op te sluiten in kampen?

YOU'RE REJECTING GOD HIMSELF

#cda #d66
in reply to Esther #antifa

Sorry, maar dit is het soort reactie wat Mastodon soms erg vermoeiend maakt.
Waarom zou je überhaupt gaan discussiëren met een atheïst of god wel bestaat, als hij een stel zogenaamde naastenliefde-minnende christenen op de tekst van hun eigen baas wijst?
in reply to Grymt

Sorry. Rustig maar, ik ben niet uit op een discussie.
Ik ben het met je eens hoor.

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"Terugkijkend op het afgelopen jaar moeten zelfs de hardnekkigste wegkijkers en de onverbeterlijkste optimisten onder u nu toch wel toegeven dat we in een clusterfuck van de hoogste categorie zijn terechtgekomen."

Maar gelukkig is daar de overheid, met eh...
...een noodpakket.

Strakke column van @miekevanstigt

socialevraagstukken.nl/column/…

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"Het is een ‘feit’ dat praktisch opgeleiden minder van migratie moeten hebben dan theoretisch opgeleiden, stelt Marijn Kruk. Maar het is óók een politiek idee, bedacht door rechtse theoretisch opgeleiden."

volkskrant.nl/columns-opinie/o…

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They should have one of Zen browsers developers as Firefox CEO. Not a finance bro. Firefox should focus on only being a decent browser. They are a foundation, not a for profit corporation and need to act as so.
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DucDuckGo make a poll asking if you want AI or not ?

voteyesornoai.com/


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noyb WIN: The Austrian Supreme Court has ruled that Meta must give users full access to their data. All of Meta's claims of trade secrets or other limitations were rejected, leading to unprecedented access to the inner workings of Meta.

noyb.eu/en/austrian-supreme-co…


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We just finished Day 2 of our Ask Me Anything about the risks, harms, and legality of age verification mandates. We'll be back tomorrow (12/17) from 12-5pm PT. Join us!
reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/…

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George Clooney is an actor.

Put him in the role of a surgeon in front of a camera, and he will do and say things the average non-surgeon viewer will agree are surgeonish. After an hour of that, we are, as average non-surgeon viewers, satisfied and entertained.

Put him in an operating theatre, and the patient will fucking die because he's not a surgeon and knows nothing about really doing surgery.

This is a post about LLMs.

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in reply to Mx. Eddie R

I hear he just signed on for two seasons of the medical drama "Surgeonish."


in reply to Grymt

“witwassen” is natuurlijk wel een geniale beeldspraak ivm apartheid.
in reply to Grymt

“witwassen” is natuurlijk wel een geniale beeldspraak ivm apartheid.