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If you want to onboard friends and family to the Fediverse, jointhefediverse.net is an amazing tool.

Made by @stefan, this site explains -- in easy-to-understand words -- what the Fediverse is, how it works, and what to try.

This is a must for everyone who wants to tell the world about the Fediverse!

@fediversenews

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Hi. Don't mind me. I appreciate your contributions in making the FediVerse that much better.

I'm just responding to a need to express myself in a manner consistent with my being, so you should probably just ignore the next paragraph.

"ONBOARD" IS NOT A VERB!!!! "ONBOARD" IS NOT EVEN AN ENGLISH WORD!! "ON BOARD" IS A PREPOSITIONAL ADJECTIVE PHRASE THAT DOES NOT TAKE A DIRECT OBJECT!

Okay, all done. We now return to our regular programming.

@stefan @fediversenews

#GrammarNazi

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Not a UX expert but that looks umm, insane to me.

Every single service is a new and often weird word, so that’s not plain language.
Example: People care about their Twitter network, which of the five weird names should they choose to replicate Twitter? There’s no indication. Not to mention none are all that similar to Twitter user base, which leads to disappointment.

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I don’t know if you’re arguing just to argue but I’m just at my patience limit.
This newbie explainer is implying EVERYONE is reachable on the fediverse, that it’s universal like email.

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@slowenough why are you even talking about mastodon? Other than being 1st why would a user of that page choose that over the the one that sounds like a spreadsheet or any other of 5.

You state:
in easy-to-understand words -- what the Fediverse is, how it works, and what to try.

All the names are gibberish and also there’s a ton of them. What to try, well sure there’s not differentiating between them and also what you try will not be similar in experience, but this is obscured.

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Thanks for the link to jointhefediverse.net.

It is an amazingly attractive quick introduction to the Fediverse and it guides people to open Fediverse alternatives for the closed platforms that they are currently used to.

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eshep

@Trenton Matthews, I've seen a decent approach being used by folks creating guppe groups to unify their conversations. I don't know that discoverability of these groups is as easy as the creation of them though. Seems like it'd be quite easy to wind up with groupname, group-name, and group_name, all having the same conversations.

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@eshep @Trenton Matthews Guppe seems to me like a dirty hack by someone who wanted to introduce groups/forums to Mastodon but didn't know at that point that more powerful solutions already existed (Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams)).

Group discoverability on Guppe is hit-and-miss. It depends on how popular your group is, for Guppe only lists 50 groups whereas Friendica lists all of its forums.

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@Jupiter Rowland, yes, a very hacky solution, and yes, I know proper forum-like implementations exist in Friendica, they're fantastic! Equally great is Lemmy being presented in Friendica as a forum. However, being that none of those have a very wide scope of discoverability, it's virtually impossible for a common Mastodon user to find one, much less know about them to begin with. It also wouldn't surprise me to see Guppe preferred over it because other platforms are seen as ""rivals"" or ""clones"" of Mastodon, and Guppe seen as something internal to it because that's how it's been presented to them.

If only there were a way for folks to see what features exist on each platform before committing to one. Simply telling folks thisβ‰ˆthat helps but just isn't quite enough. Nor does the "just join here cause it's what I use"' approach.

And hacky as it may be, I'm happy to see folks wanting a bit stricter conversation control have found a way to do so across the fediverse. It helps those looking for a more intimate atmosphere to find a home here.

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@Potung Thul, @Kevin Davidson, the increasing popularity of the ignorant leads to the death of the proper meaning of words. I love to verbinate words or add some silly adjectivication to them. I do so purely for the comedic affect, it's fun to play with words. Luckily I'm not admired by many and therefor have very little influence over the way people speak. 😁

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@Bruce G_NS, @Jupiter Rowland, the fact that some tools are objectively ""better"" than others only makes a difference to the user who wants that betteryness. The best thing about the Fediverse is that choice we all have to use the interface that suits our needs, be it an interface that already exists or one that has yet to be realized.

The part of this that's a problem is when new folks join Mastadon, find the interface doesn't work for them, and when they ask for assistance or clarification, they're told "that's just the way it is" instead of "here's a few other ways you could enjoy the Fediverse". Simply because the person they asked only knows the word Mastadon and has no idea what a fediverse is. The root of it all is the Fediverse being advertised as Mastadon instead of Mastadon being advertised as a way to interact with people in the Fediverse.

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eshep

@kichae@kitchenparty.online, @Jupiter Rowland, where the people are is the #fediverse, not #Mastadon. Yes, the mass of fediverse users may be using Mastadon but the entire point of it speaking #ActivityPub is interoperability with other AP things. Thereby making #Friendica's forums, or #Lemmy's forums/threads(?), or #rss feeds, or #PeerTube channels or #Pixelfed albums(?), or #Funkwhale stations(?), or #Guppe groups, or whatever else, all easily accessible to everyone in the fediverse if people are simply given the proper information from the start.

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@eshep

Suffixes help label the part of speech of a word, so I have no problem with getting an invitation, just an invite.
There will always be lazy people in the world, and there will always be a place for those who show how it's supposed to be done.

@MetalSamurai @atomicpoet @stefan @fediversenews

#GrammarNazi
#PartsOfSpeech

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