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in reply to zorakeba:~$ gone -fishing 🎣

Well if that is true I am very sorry, but honestly how can I trust this? And the fact that we get MANY messages that are almost identical to what you sent...

See? This is the fucked up scenario: mistrust. If you are really not an LLM then you took a very bad decision to write what you did in your bio.

And the fact that I am even talking to you like this I feel like we are truly living in a dystopia.

in reply to Izzy Ramen Eel

Do you understand the problem with these LLMs and the shitposts and accounts that are created? If this user is not an LLM, yet they write that in their bio, how can I vet this account as being real?

The fact that I made this post is because of mistrust. If I cannot trust anymore what is a real person and what is a bot, we are doomed.

The message this account sent was terribly similar to what we have been getting for the past weeks from other accounts.

Are you a bot? Because you sure do not seem as someone who understands the implication of these LLMs on fucking up the internet and trust in general.

in reply to Tio

Bruh wtf is going on, I get you got confused by the "LLM" in the bio, and I get you're probably not very into this side of the internet culture, maybe not much around LGBT spaces as well (?, and probably not our age (at least not mental age), and you missed the joke. But you don't have to double down on it, you could have just laughed it off and ended up on good terms, and having a laugh with everyone...

Anyway... I am not blocking you as I don't think you did any of this on bad faith, I think it's just how it came out, and that's valid... But please try to respect our users... Ignorance is not an excuse to be a jerk... Please let me know if you'd like context on any of the inside jokes you missed, or anything else.

(funny how that last part looks like something an LLM would write ​:kekw:​)

in reply to Cody

Having to moderate an instance is not easy when you are blasted with these LLMs accounts (bots). Their bio looked like a random thing an LLMs would write, but adding that bit about LLM in the bio looked very strange indeed. That is where the mistake is.

I am all for accepting their account if they register again if a bunch of other accounts are saying this is not an LLM. And how could I have known that if I didnt post it publicly? Just to trust by asking that account directly?

I also do not have the time/resources to dig into these things for too long.

In an case, I do not care what people identify as, what their personal life is about, and so forth. I only reject bots and in this particular case, given all of what I said, the account looked like a bot account.

in reply to Tio

That's fair, I also admin catboy.baby. Generally, if a user provides a reason for registration that isn't a keysmash, and they provide an account they're currently on, I tend to just reach out directly, ask if they signed up, and see where it goes form there. It takes like 2 minutes to write a simple "Hey, did you just try to sign up to our instance? Your message seemed a little generic" as a DM, and it ensures you don't make this mistake ​:neobot_cat_headphones:​
Also good cues in this particular case is the use of MFM and emojis, which LLMs wouldn't be able to write, but again, I don't expect you to know this.

But yes, your vent is valid, and it is definitely a problem that some people cannot discern LLMs from real users at first glance. Sadly I don't think this is an easy fix and we're going to have to just take the time to figure things out...

in reply to Cody

Yes maybe next time I will DM these accounts that look suspicious to me. It is unfortunate. We used to let anyone register without sending any reason for that. And we were flooded by spambots of course. Lately we had to close our Matrix server that was abused by over 500 spambots. Just to provide some context why I thought this one is a bot.

I am very sorry of this was a wrong decision. But people should also understand how difficult it is for instance admins nowadays to keep the bots out. And it will get even worse.

If the said user wants to register again I will gladly accept the registration and will delete this post.

in reply to Orange Lantern

And you think your comment is "dense"? Or that you are very good at "social interaction"? Nothing constructive in your comment. At least my post is explaining why I decided this account is a bot account. They write in their bio they are an LLM. If they joked about it, joke on them. Their account will be rejected by other admins. Simple and unfortunate but this is the environment we are in, where such LLMs models are used for spam/bot accounts.
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Tio

Yes people who make accounts for LLMs can have these. I cannot check their interaction more than for a few posts. And from what I saw it looked like a bot account to me. If I was wrong, then it is not my fault. It is theirs for writing that LLM part in the bio. Considering how many bots are today, it is a terrible decision to add that to your bio and ask for an account with another instance.

If they were a nice person should have replied in a calm and friendly way to my post and explain the situation.

in reply to november

Why do you think I am so shitty? Because I thought the account is a bot account? If I was wrong, tell me about it, and I will correct myself and accept the registration. Simple. No need to throw shit at each other. I had all reasons to think that account was a bot. The message they sent, their bio.

It is very sad to see people being so triggered and unable to have a conversation. Look at your comment, does not help anyone with anything. Why do you use words if you do not want to communicate?

in reply to MΓ―kΓͺ πŸ’š πŸ‘‘πŸ‰πŸ—‘οΈπŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ

Yes that is communication because it showcases the big issue with these LLMs, registrations for these platforms, and perhaps how not to write your bio. This is why I am leaving the post up and added an edit to it. That is for sure an important discussion to have.

If I knew this person is not an LLM of course I would have contacted them. When I made their ID public was for others to be aware of that LLM account - since that is what it looked like.

So yes, I think I reacted in a relevant way to what has happened.

in reply to Tio

This post's thesis is only valid if "these people" are indeed invading your instance with LLMs, which you now know isn't what happened here. Imagine if someone publicly called you out by name and accused you of something you didn't do. And then kept it up even after confirming that you didn't do it.

This is like me posting "Everyone look out for people trying to get into your houses! Tio just tried to pick my lock (dummy just tried to use some other house's key lol) and then looked around to see if I hid a spare key anywhere... Scary times we live in! Edit: Okay, turns out that they weren't trying to get into my house, they were trying to visit their friend who has an identical house one street down from me."

What would be the point of me leaving this post up?

in reply to MΓ―kΓͺ πŸ’š πŸ‘‘πŸ‰πŸ—‘οΈπŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ

Perfectly reasonable to leave that post up. You clarify that Tio didnt want to break into your house. Good job! Removing that post after some have shared and seen it, is worse in my opinion. Those people may really think Tio tried to break into your house.

But my post is a lot more relevant because there are comments/discussions around it that are relevant, including this one.

The user has such a weird bio that it will be for sure mistaken with a bot (LLM). So maybe others should get to see this and perhaps think twice before creating a bio where they "joke" about being a robot and an LLM.

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