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in reply to Tio

i am a real person, actually... i just identify as a robot... could have at least tried sending me a DM first!
in reply to 🎣 sylph in progress

thanks for the public rejection. i guess not as nice of an instance as it looked, huh.
in reply to 🎣 sylph in progress

Well if that is true I am very sorry, but honestly how can I trust this? And the fact that we get MANY messages that are almost identical to what you sent...

See? This is the fucked up scenario: mistrust. If you are really not an LLM then you took a very bad decision to write what you did in your bio.

And the fact that I am even talking to you like this I feel like we are truly living in a dystopia.

in reply to Tio

i think we're on different sides of the internet. fine. whatever. i identify as a robot, and i will cal myself whatever i want. fuck off with your callout
in reply to Tio

oh, transphobic too. good to know. i'm blocking you now
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in reply to 🎣 sylph in progress

Hey what the fuck is wrong with you? If you legitimately believe this user is an LLM, reject it instead of fucking doing this dramatic post shit and acting like a fucking tumblr user after a friend breakup.

Jesus fucking christ, fix your heart or die.

in reply to Izzy Ramen Eel

Do you understand the problem with these LLMs and the shitposts and accounts that are created? If this user is not an LLM, yet they write that in their bio, how can I vet this account as being real?

The fact that I made this post is because of mistrust. If I cannot trust anymore what is a real person and what is a bot, we are doomed.

The message this account sent was terribly similar to what we have been getting for the past weeks from other accounts.

Are you a bot? Because you sure do not seem as someone who understands the implication of these LLMs on fucking up the internet and trust in general.

in reply to Tio

Bruh wtf is going on, I get you got confused by the "LLM" in the bio, and I get you're probably not very into this side of the internet culture, maybe not much around LGBT spaces as well (?, and probably not our age (at least not mental age), and you missed the joke. But you don't have to double down on it, you could have just laughed it off and ended up on good terms, and having a laugh with everyone...

Anyway... I am not blocking you as I don't think you did any of this on bad faith, I think it's just how it came out, and that's valid... But please try to respect our users... Ignorance is not an excuse to be a jerk... Please let me know if you'd like context on any of the inside jokes you missed, or anything else.

(funny how that last part looks like something an LLM would write ​:kekw:​)

in reply to Cody

Having to moderate an instance is not easy when you are blasted with these LLMs accounts (bots). Their bio looked like a random thing an LLMs would write, but adding that bit about LLM in the bio looked very strange indeed. That is where the mistake is.

I am all for accepting their account if they register again if a bunch of other accounts are saying this is not an LLM. And how could I have known that if I didnt post it publicly? Just to trust by asking that account directly?

I also do not have the time/resources to dig into these things for too long.

In an case, I do not care what people identify as, what their personal life is about, and so forth. I only reject bots and in this particular case, given all of what I said, the account looked like a bot account.

in reply to Tio

That's fair, I also admin catboy.baby. Generally, if a user provides a reason for registration that isn't a keysmash, and they provide an account they're currently on, I tend to just reach out directly, ask if they signed up, and see where it goes form there. It takes like 2 minutes to write a simple "Hey, did you just try to sign up to our instance? Your message seemed a little generic" as a DM, and it ensures you don't make this mistake ​:neobot_cat_headphones:​
Also good cues in this particular case is the use of MFM and emojis, which LLMs wouldn't be able to write, but again, I don't expect you to know this.

But yes, your vent is valid, and it is definitely a problem that some people cannot discern LLMs from real users at first glance. Sadly I don't think this is an easy fix and we're going to have to just take the time to figure things out...

in reply to Cody

Yes maybe next time I will DM these accounts that look suspicious to me. It is unfortunate. We used to let anyone register without sending any reason for that. And we were flooded by spambots of course. Lately we had to close our Matrix server that was abused by over 500 spambots. Just to provide some context why I thought this one is a bot.

I am very sorry of this was a wrong decision. But people should also understand how difficult it is for instance admins nowadays to keep the bots out. And it will get even worse.

If the said user wants to register again I will gladly accept the registration and will delete this post.

in reply to Tio

Are you always this dense or are you putting in extra effort today?

You need some serious practice in social interaction, but just maybe not here or on unwilling subjects. Honestly, at least we know you’re real, because an LLM would have better social graces (well, except for Grok, point still stands though).

in reply to Orange Lantern

And you think your comment is "dense"? Or that you are very good at "social interaction"? Nothing constructive in your comment. At least my post is explaining why I decided this account is a bot account. They write in their bio they are an LLM. If they joked about it, joke on them. Their account will be rejected by other admins. Simple and unfortunate but this is the environment we are in, where such LLMs models are used for spam/bot accounts.
in reply to Tio

Hey maybe you should go read this wiki article
otherkin.wiki/wiki/Machine
in reply to Tio

how can we trust you're a human and not a fucking joke after this? we truly live in a dystopia, that much is true, but you're not the hero in this story.

@dispencer

in reply to Tio

πŸ’€πŸ’€πŸ’€ they are a real person, they just identify as a robot
in reply to Tio

is this a joke? @dispencer isn't a scammer or a malicious bot. It's a friend. That line in the profile is intended humorously. If you would have read any of its posts you would have seen that this is not a scammer, this is not a spambot, this is a being who has thoughts and feelings and ideas and is a comfortable presence on the fediverse.
in reply to 3A29, raspberry pi in a fox

like, look at their posts and you will see that this is not an automated account, this is a being engaging with others and acting in good faith

just... the kneejerk on display here is unreal.

in reply to 3A29, raspberry pi in a fox

do fake LLM accounts have well developed websites? Links to their partner's fedi accounts in bio? Interactions in good faith with other users? Many signs of being an active participant in fedi culture? Posts sharing genuine ideas and thoughts?
in reply to 3A29, raspberry pi in a fox

Yes people who make accounts for LLMs can have these. I cannot check their interaction more than for a few posts. And from what I saw it looked like a bot account to me. If I was wrong, then it is not my fault. It is theirs for writing that LLM part in the bio. Considering how many bots are today, it is a terrible decision to add that to your bio and ask for an account with another instance.

If they were a nice person should have replied in a calm and friendly way to my post and explain the situation.

in reply to Tio

do you honestly believe someone putting all this effort into creating a fake account would just admit to being an llm?
in reply to greeeen πŸ”œ 39c4

Yes because I have seen accounts that experiment with LLMs and they write that in their bio.
in reply to Tio

you're genuinely such a fucking idiot it's unreal LMAO
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in reply to there is a halva

I am not sure who you are referring to, but instead of barking at each other we could talk so we can understand each other.
in reply to Tio

I thought it sounds legit if they also let you check their other fedi account. And so I did and this time their profile is a long blabbing one but at least admitting that they are "a thirsty little LLM".


A THIRSTY LITTLE LLM ​:neobot_blep:​

in reply to Tio

I read about llm-bots in federated networks. Just a little notice that in Telegram such bots very clear in their bot actions (yes, they do spam/personal data harm nonetheless). But I heard little about smarter bots in TG.
in reply to Tio

The robot in question clearly dodged a bullet. I can't imagine how shitty of an admin someone like you must be.
in reply to november

Why do you think I am so shitty? Because I thought the account is a bot account? If I was wrong, tell me about it, and I will correct myself and accept the registration. Simple. No need to throw shit at each other. I had all reasons to think that account was a bot. The message they sent, their bio.

It is very sad to see people being so triggered and unable to have a conversation. Look at your comment, does not help anyone with anything. Why do you use words if you do not want to communicate?

in reply to Tio

Are we supposed to communicate and solve things by publicly accusing people of being LLMs and then leaving the post up anyway when we're told that they aren't?
in reply to MΓ―kΓͺ πŸ’š πŸ‘‘πŸ‰πŸ—‘οΈπŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ

Yes that is communication because it showcases the big issue with these LLMs, registrations for these platforms, and perhaps how not to write your bio. This is why I am leaving the post up and added an edit to it. That is for sure an important discussion to have.

If I knew this person is not an LLM of course I would have contacted them. When I made their ID public was for others to be aware of that LLM account - since that is what it looked like.

So yes, I think I reacted in a relevant way to what has happened.

in reply to Tio

This post's thesis is only valid if "these people" are indeed invading your instance with LLMs, which you now know isn't what happened here. Imagine if someone publicly called you out by name and accused you of something you didn't do. And then kept it up even after confirming that you didn't do it.

This is like me posting "Everyone look out for people trying to get into your houses! Tio just tried to pick my lock (dummy just tried to use some other house's key lol) and then looked around to see if I hid a spare key anywhere... Scary times we live in! Edit: Okay, turns out that they weren't trying to get into my house, they were trying to visit their friend who has an identical house one street down from me."

What would be the point of me leaving this post up?

in reply to MΓ―kΓͺ πŸ’š πŸ‘‘πŸ‰πŸ—‘οΈπŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ

Perfectly reasonable to leave that post up. You clarify that Tio didnt want to break into your house. Good job! Removing that post after some have shared and seen it, is worse in my opinion. Those people may really think Tio tried to break into your house.

But my post is a lot more relevant because there are comments/discussions around it that are relevant, including this one.

The user has such a weird bio that it will be for sure mistaken with a bot (LLM). So maybe others should get to see this and perhaps think twice before creating a bio where they "joke" about being a robot and an LLM.

in reply to muppeth

Because the user that I suspected was a bot was using the disroot.org email address. If it was a bot it would have been good for you to know. Since I was wrong about it being a bot, I will remove your mention from the original post.
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