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We found some alternatives to contabo.com where we host our servers. Contabo is a cunt, to put it simply, forcing us recently to remove perfectly legal links and such. By the end of this year or beginning of the next we should start the move from contabo to another hosting. I'd like not to....but I am forced to. One particular provider seems quite good and a bit cheaper, we could expand our disk-space for trom.tf.

I am concerned with how to move it all when it comes to friendica or matrix....their databases are immense.....but will see when the time comes.

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Ruaidhrigh Featherstonehaugh
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Well, that sucks! What was Contabo's justification? Howdid you verify that, once you move, you won't have the same issue with trom.tf?
@Xantulon
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Tio
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This is their justification https://social.trom.tf/display/dbc8dc44-2163-0699-4b85-3ad693476390
Howdid you verify that, once you move, you won't have the same issue with trom.tf?
idk how that would be....we need to try...

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kaalki
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You might look into @flokinet if its in your budget.
@FlokiNET
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Tio
Tio
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I for sure like what they stand for, but their prices are 3-5 times higher...I cannot afford unfortunately...
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FlokiNET
FlokiNET
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our dedicated server prices in Romania are lower then compareable ones of the mentioned provider ;) If you need something specific feel free to contact us we will give our best to find a solution
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Ruaidhrigh Featherstonehaugh
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How do you handle situations like OP's? Contabo received a complaint about a Nitter (Twitter mirroring service) instance, and forced OP to take it down.
@tio @Xantulon @kaalki
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FlokiNET
FlokiNET
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we sponsor the nitter.net hosting , if that answers your question ;)
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Tio
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Sounds great, however I looked at the prices and are quite high. To give you an example we pay some 32 euros a month currently for a 10 core cpu, 2TB of SSD, 1 GB connection and 64GB of RAM. We need a lot of disckspace since we provide a lot of free services via trom.tf. And we use some 30-40GB of RAM usually.

I'd love to use a hosting provider like you, but unfortunately I cannot afford right now... 🙁
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FlokiNET
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i was only able to compare the given prices on the website which are already insane low for VPS ; however dedicated server are close to our prices while we include ddos filter etc. In such calculations there is zero margin for abuse handle and thats why they just ban you. Also german law is not in your favour. Hetzner did the same with nitter.
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Ruaidhrigh Featherstonehaugh
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Sounds good to me; cost isn't the *only* factor.

Do you provide any API access to management services? One thing Contabo is doing well is their cli tool for management. Even if there's no tool, having an API to script against is nice.
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FlokiNET
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no API for VPS so far (work in progress, no ETA) , dedicated server are managed by KVM (ILO) however its for now behind a VPN for security reasons but we are working as well on an API ready solution.
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FlokiNET
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you can use VPN + SSH for ILO to manage the dedicated server if you want to script something
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Ruaidhrigh Featherstonehaugh
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The Contabo APIs allow you to provision, restart, etc, servers. They're adding DNS management (a big one, for me), vital for PTR, TXT etc if you're managing an email server. It's those sorts of interactions I'd really rather manage from a cli than a web interface.

Does the ssh solution help me here?
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FlokiNET
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ssh for ILO allows restart and remote acess for example to fix network or enter PBE password.
DNS is related towards your domain provider (except ptr however you set that only once realy no need for an api) and not your hosting (unless you operate it together)
For DNS entry we have an API (cpanel)
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Tio
Tio
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Yes if I could afford I would probably try your service. Maybe if you could provide some option to extend the diskspace a bit, and the RAM, for a custom price....
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FlokiNET
FlokiNET
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we can upgrade ram and disk space however in most cases you will have a similar price as a dedicated server
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FlokiNET
FlokiNET
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just open a ticket with us or send an email and we will create you an offer
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Tio
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I understand. I do not plan to move for the next few months so I will see when that time comes. Thanks for the details I appreciate it.
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FlokiNET
FlokiNET
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if we can help in any way please let us know
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kaalki
kaalki
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There is another provider privex.io you can look into them too.
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FlokiNET
FlokiNET
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just keep in mind the Germany/Finland server are Hetzner resold (so don't host Nitter there)
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Ruaidhrigh Featherstonehaugh
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Bummer. I've been mostly happy with Contabo, and love their API-based admin work. The biggest issue I've had is really slow ticket responses to non-urgent tickets, but DMCA-ish takedowns with no conversation is disturbing.
@Xantulon
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Tio
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Yeah wait until you really need to talk to them about something like takedowns. They do not care at all. I was really surprised to see this attitude...
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Ruaidhrigh Featherstonehaugh
Ruaidhrigh Featherstonehaugh
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Do they apply German laws everywhere? They're a German company, I know, but they also have servers in other places. It sounds like *any* company you host with, if the server is in DE you can't host nitter there.

My point: would a simple solution being to have your Contabo instance moved to another country?
@Xantulon
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Tio
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My point: would a simple solution being to have your Contabo instance moved to another country?
No, I asked. They said same rules apply....
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Rokosun
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I hope this new provider is saner than contabo.
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