Seems like lots of flooding recently...are they worse than in the past? Some sources say yes. What is quite a few years new tho, is the absolute morons who film vertically https://ytb.trom.tf/watch?v=525UOgzosA4
I understand this is a tragedy, but if these humans want to film it anyways, and document it, then for fuck sake film it properly else you can't even tell how it started, what is the impact, the aftermath. People with phones, please, don't ruin the human vision. I swear 95% of all videos today are filmed through a fence. You can't really see anything.
Phones need a bloody camera app that films vertically regardless of how you tilt your phone. This is so dumb I feel more outraged by it than floodings. Floodings happen and will keep on happening and this is very tragic, but people documenting these events are beyond retarded.
Yah. Well. Rant done.
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in reply to Tio • • •I just feel like this is why you're not motivated to fix your sites on mobiles
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in reply to Rokosun • •It is true I may be biased when it comes to mobile phones, but can you tell me what can they be used for other than consuming content and keeping in touch with others? I am honestly curious since it is such a small device is not like you can create stuff like write books or blog posts (basically valuable thoughts transformed into words), nor can you edit videos or anything else for the matter. So yah I am curious...
You are right computers too are mostly used in the same way, but at least they are fit for doing more than consuming.
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Unknown parent • • •I know people who don't even have PCs, cause most of what they do can be done on mobiles, plus phones are cheap. If Tio didn't optimise his sites for mobile screens, he'll loose a lot of people, that's why I brought this up.
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in reply to Tio • • •Sitting on a chair and using a PC for a long time is uncomfortable for me, maybe I should change my posture and buy a more comfortable chair or something, lol 😅
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in reply to Rokosun • •In any case, I really hope we can see a Manjaro Phone that works and we can customize a mobile TROMjaro so that people consume media without trading their attention and data at least.
And buy you a proper chair. I had back problems for years I felt like dying. Then I bought a "gaming" chair and no more back problems. And I do not game either haha.
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in reply to Rokosun • •haha no no that's not at all my point, my point was (again) that phones are designed for that purpose only. That's my beef with phones. While computers can be used for more uses. It is like I would criticize the TV for being a passive media consuming device and I'd argue the Internet is better since you can both consume and create. Phones are like little TVs in your pocket.
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in reply to Tio • • •Phone can be used for small productive things, like I occasionally post linux tips on my account for example. They're not well made media like stuff, but still productive IMO ;)
But my main point is that consuming isn't a bad thing in itself. The important question is what you're consuming. Do you think its bad reading your books and watching documentaries just because I'm consuming them ? That's my point.
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in reply to Rokosun • •PCs suffer from the same OS-driven consuming-paradigm (Mac and Windows), but at least their form factor is geared towards either "creating" and expression (see writing books, blogs, making videos, programming, etc.), or better "consumption" (watch long form content, read long form content, and so forth).
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in reply to Tio • • •About watching long medias I agree, I watch documentaries/movies/TROMcasts on my PC. But if I had a better TV, I might watch it there using a USB or something. In short, for most people a mobile and a TV fills all/most of their needs, that's why people use them.
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in reply to Rokosun • •So phones push you to consume more and more; make you used with the apps idea instead of websites, and apps are either fully controlled by them via their store (so I as a "content creator" can't even add my apps so easily into these "stores"), or these apps are hard to make. Much easier to make a website than so many apps.
Here's an example: a friend of mine wanted to watch our Videoneat content on... show more
So phones push you to consume more and more; make you used with the apps idea instead of websites, and apps are either fully controlled by them via their store (so I as a "content creator" can't even add my apps so easily into these "stores"), or these apps are hard to make. Much easier to make a website than so many apps.
Here's an example: a friend of mine wanted to watch our Videoneat content on her iPad. I tried for hours to find an app that lets you download torrent/magnet links. No way. I could not find any.
Another example: a friend wanted a PDF editor, a simple one. On Android the main way to do it is via their store, and we found and installed a bunch to then be faced with 1.000 charlatan judo-moves. We didn't realize many were trials, other limited you in so many ways, and so on. All of them wanted you to trade trade trade.
And my experience is endless. Phones nowadays are owned by 2 companies, and the experience using these phones is very bad. Considering that there is no FOSS working alternative at the moment, then I do not see phones a priority at all since they are already a time bomb haha.
Whenever I'll see a proper FOSS phone I will struggle to make our websites mobile-friendly. And maybe I will give them a better chance.
Right now I see phones as a tool that mainly keeps you busy and it narrows your filed of view, both visually and mentally :D.
Even if there will be a FOSS phone that's good, I hope I won't use it much. Having a computer in your pocket may not be a great idea anyways. Enjoy life while out there ;). That's the way I think and so far it works. And I love that my closest friends are the same.
I think we can agree to disagree on certain aspects, and you may be right since I did not use phones much for the past years, but I still think my points are relevant (at least a bunch of them).
Thanks for engaging and tell me what OS and phone you use, out of curiosity. Maybe I asked you before but I forgot...
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in reply to Tio • • •The biggest revelation for me was https://f-droid.org. If you have any friends who use mobiles, tell them about it. All apps on fdroid are FOSS, that means no shitty apps with ads and trackers. Also its similar to linux in that anyone can add a repository, so no lock-in.
F-Droid - Free and Open Source Android App Repository
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in reply to Rokosun • • •Although this video is talking from a privacy/security perspective, it'll also reduce most of the trades like ads and stuff.
On my personal device, I have installed lineageOS without any kind of Google apps, so my device is currently completely google-free. I understand that lineageOS don't support many devices, and that sucks. But most popular device models are supported.
The Complete Android Privacy & Security Guide: The Best Protection!
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in reply to Rokosun • •And yup I know about f-droid but that is a bit cumbersome to deal with. Updates are not automatic, nor is a way to update all apps at once. I use it too, it is my only "app library" on my phone in case I need any app on my phone. But I can't stand google+samsung they piss me off quire often. I hope in the next 2-3 years a good Linux phone will be out there and I'd love to test it a bit. Maybe I will start to love phones haha, although I can never see myself using them that much nor film in portrait mode :))
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in reply to Tio • • •If you asked me which is better - linux or android, I'll always go with linux 100%. Being a more advanced user, I probably use more of the freedom & choice offered by linux ;)
The only thing I disagree with you is when you said that mobile is bad purely based on its form factor, I like to believe that every technology has its own advantages :)
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