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Source - bbc.com/news/articles/ce9xkx7v…

We should send this with the Voyager spacecrafts. So that the aliens understand the true nature of this fucked up human society. 2025. Absolute disgrace. Horror.

#israel #gaza #starvation #news #genocide

#News #israel #Gaza #genocide #starvation
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Tinkerbellum
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And as evidence that the BBC vultures do have a gag reflex.
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Tio
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Are you saying that BBC is not critical enough of Israel? I read the BBC news almost daily and I see them criticizing Israel on a daily basis. Or am I missing something?

bbc.com/search?q=gaza&edgeauth…

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Absolutely the BBC has sided with Israel at every opportunity. Just the other week they were unquestioningly parroting the Dinah project bullshit. Every IDF claim is elevated and promoted while any casualties are minimised as coming from the “Hamas run” health ministry. For the last 2 years journalists have been leaking about the pro Israel editorial bias, and we saw what happened with them refusing to release their own documentary on the destruction of the Gaza health system.
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Wait...can you send me some links? Because I see an entirely different picture. Maybe you can say they do not criticize Israel enough but on their front page every other day I see news about how awful Israel is and how much destruction they cause in Gaza.

As for the documentary BBC released about the terrible situation in Gaza, the one you are mentioning, was pulled off because of possible bias of the ones making the documentary (BBC did not make it, they commissioned others to do it) - bbc.com/news/articles/cpwqpdy0…

Regardless of who is right, you have to detach from bias. And if the narrator of the documentary is the son of a Hamas leader, this may be a sign of bias.

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also, this thread sums up my views of the BBCs language far better than I can muster right now.
todon.eu/@EndemicEarthling/114…

EndemicEarthling (@EndemicEarthling@todon.eu)

@DoomsdaysCW@kolektiva.social The final two paragraphs of this (and nearly every BBC) report on Gaza read thus: "The Israeli military launched its bombardment of Gaza in response to the attack [of 7th Oct 2023], in which about 1,200 people were ki…
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Tio
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The source is "Promoting Fair And Responsible Reporting Of Muslims And Islam" - I struggle to accept that it is unbiased. If it was an independent organization with no ties to any groups of people or any particular agenda, I would have looked more into it.

This seems a more in depth analysis from a more independent source - policyexchange.org.uk/wp-conte… - it looks at the claims of cfmm.org.uk about BBC.

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are you disputing the numbers in those key findings?
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I am simply saying the source you provided seems biased to me. Therefore their interpretation of what BBC is doing in this regards, may be skewed.
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So if the BBC did indeed share Israeli perspectives 11 times more frequently than Palestinian perspectives and devote significantly more attention and sympathetic language to Israeli casualties than Palestinian ones, would that not contradict your assertion that the BBC hasn’t taken Israel’s side?
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The interpretation of the language can be subjective no? Depends on the event in question. But if this was true, then yes I would say BBC would be biased towards Israel. However I have seen BBC reporting on their main page about the horror situation in Gaza and the terrible actions of Israel, multiple times.
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Because, as I said at the start, sometimes even vultures gag.
The remarkable thing is the genocide has become so horrific that the BBC is limited in their ability to minimise, justify or ignore the horrors. They will still try of course. But you are seeing reporting on Israel’s crimes not because the BBC has some commitment to truth or justice, but because the scale of the atrocity is so great that they have to publish something.
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I dont know if I agree with you. I have seen a lot of documentaries from BBC over the years and in my view they do a great journalistic work. I hope I am not wrong, but I do feel like your comments are too harsh towards BBC.

Even now reporting about that aid distribution, seems like BBC is clearly saying Israel does this just to please the allies, not to help the people in Gaza. Which seems to be very true.

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Perhaps this documentary is more of a concern in terms of BBC not going on with it - bbc.com/news/articles/crenz9d3… - but is still available on C4. I for sure do not think BBC are saints, not at all, but I also did not see the BBC "siding" with Israel in this conflict in Gaza. I saw the opposite.
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hey, it's our governments that are doing that!
Stop blaming Israel alone
Israel is evil, our governments are embracing evil with all their energy, and we're letting that happen
We made a pact with the devil, and are following him to hell
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@filobus
The post seems to be blaming all of humanity for allowing such things not just Israel. The Voyager spacecraft was sent out into space by NASA with 2 golden records showcasing the diversity of life and culture on Earth, however they do not show the dark side of humanity like the wars and genocides we see today....
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@futureisfoss yes, I understood that, and I used this post (sorry for that) to blame not that post, but our (well, from the point of view of where I live) inability to stop all that, from Israel to our governments that are not less guilty, not less involved
Thank you for your post
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@filobus @Tio

The sad part is that even when some normal everyday people try to gain some courage and organize protests the people in power crack down on that and suppress their voices..... When I see these pictures of starving children and read the news about how Israel is blocking humanitarian aid and food from reaching there this shit doesn't seem like "war" to me, the cruelty I see here can only be described as genocide - yes I know that word gets thrown around a lot but in this case it truly seem to be the case.

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@roko I think that using the word genocide is not incorrect

But even if incorrect it is right to use it now, when nobody does nothing to stop it
When it will be stopped we could start understanding if it was correct or not, if there'll be an international court that will punish who is responsible

Anyway, killing 60.000+ people, almost civilians, babies, children, sick and old ones, women, journalists... It is a crime against humanity, a word that for me has a meaning yet

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We know that the US and Isntreal are ghouls, and are the instigators of this genocide, But where is the outrage from the rest of the world? Europe, especially, is doing fuck-all at best, and aiding and abetting at worst. They allow war criminals to freely fly over their airspace, while supplying arms and intelligence to the IOF.
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fuck the jews man, I wish Hitler had finished the job
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You see, this attitude is what fuels a lot of destruction in our world.

For one we should see each other for who we are: human beings. Jews, catholics, muslims, americans, europeans and so forth, are invented fantasies we promote in this society. We are humans and have similar needs. When we put each other in these simplistic groups it leaves room for hate and abuse.

And second, if you wish to kill the ones you disagree with or in your view are bad people, then you will never understand what made them "bad" or where the disagreement arise from. Same environment will produce the same people. Like tobacco creating cancer. How much of this cancer you want to kill?

I am sure we can be smarter than this.

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it does not matter if you believe in God or Satan or dont believe in anything at all, what matters is that they believe in Satan and they behave according to those beliefs. The part that sucks the most is that our side has to deal with ppl like you while their side fucks little kids and does human sacrifices in the name of their god, and our side has foold like u telling us that we need to forgive and forget bc we are all the same. Fuck u and the jew u rode in.
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You are not very good at communicating unfortunately. Something bothers you a lot I see. But beyond your anger there is the truth that we are all humans, regardless of what you believe in. And we should keep on saying this until we understand it.

No more jews, christians, americans, or other nonsense. This is a basic start of a more intelligent mindset.

We should really try not to kill each other, I think that would be a reasonable goal. But if you have these groups of people, that fight with other groups, for all sorts of reasons, then this breeds anger, destruction, killings.

Your anger creates more anger. At least use your anger to say something useful and engage in some form of communication so the other "side" understands your points.

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go suck a jew dick faggot u are the problem, when ppl want to fix things ur the faghot who gets infront of them and says dont do it things are good enough, so dont go kill that rapist multiple felon criminal nigger we need to forgive and forget. fuck u, we need to kill faggots like u too.
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I get your anger, but even if you "kill people like me", the same environment will make more of my "clones". Killing is not the solution. We have to understand each other and solve our differences. Else we are a bunch of snakes jumping at each other.

I never said things are good enough, actually this society is a mess. I am saying we have to understand where violence comes from, so we can deal with that. As simple as this. Same way when you try to understand what creates some types of cancer instead of always trying to "cut it off" when you catch it.

I am unsure you are able to read and understand these things. You are to tense. But well at least you can ignore it.

I hope you find some mental stability and ability to listen and communicate.

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killing is most definitely the solution and the first one the line should be traitors like u
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Even for your weird fantasies, killing wont solve your anger friend. Try to find some calmness in your life, else this anger will rust you from inside out.
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Such cruelty man, and the rest of the world lives on as normal as if nothing's amiss..... All of the world leaders that actually has some kind of power and influence over things are either supporting this shit or turning a blind eye....
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True. And in many cases they do not dare to say much since they have deep relationships with Israel and USA...they do not want to "upset" these tribes. Especially the monster the USA has become.
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Israel has really impressive war technology too, which is part of the reason why no other countries wants to cut ties with them. And USA is ofc the capitalist kingdom that everyone wants to trade with, who also has one of the strongest military force in the world.... Yeah really a lack of spine and humanity in these world leaders if you ask me, and such fucked up society we have always prioritizing the wrong things....
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