People are upset about #proton wanting to use AI more, to cut on costs, make more profits...well, I am not at all. Anyone who trades their product/service is subject to its bad influences. Trade is the origin of most problems as I wrote in this book tromsite.com/trombooks/#flipbo…
The longer you play the Trade Game, the more chances to become a shithead. A profiteer. An ego-maniac. One who cares more about making a profit than anything else.
There is a reason why I so desperately talk about "trade trade trade" and how this is an awful game. It is indeed the origin of most of our problems. But too few are listening.
The only way around this is to create Trade-Free services. Like we provide via TROM.tf. We provide file hosting, file sharing, social platforms, video platforms, and so much more. And they are all trade-free, meaning you do not have to give us ANYTHING in order to use them. And so we have ZERO incentive to create shitty services. ZERO.
That's the way.
No "small and honest" business can stay small and honest. They have to pay employees, hardware, rents, etc.. They are entangled with you, the user, who needs to pay them else they are fucked. They need to grow, and lying is a short path to that. Cut costs, abuse their employees, hype their products, etc..
So yah, you want trade-free services? Check our directory of trade-free services and organizations directory.trade-free.org/
Rant done.
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Rokosun
in reply to Tio • • •> People are upset
> I am not at all
I think you meant shocked.
Donn Castaneda
in reply to Tio • • •undrendo
in reply to Tio • • •Trade does not give a CEO the right to treat employees poorly. Quite the opposite, a *competent* CEO sees that good morale in the workplace (and among customers) is good for trade.
If you look at people's comments in threads on Mastodon, Lemmy, Reddit, and Proton's forum portal <protonmail.uservoice.com/forum…>, you'll notice that many if not most people are upset at how poorly the CEO treated Proton's employees, and at how he pushes to prioritize speed to security, again belittling the engineers' concerns about that. Sure, some protesters are "purely anti-AI". But I'd say most are against the poor workplace behaviour, and the poor or mis- use of LLMs pushed by the CEO and CTO.
The CEO himself posted a message about this on Reddit <reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/commen…>, saying that he didn't mean to
... Show more...Trade does not give a CEO the right to treat employees poorly. Quite the opposite, a *competent* CEO sees that good morale in the workplace (and among customers) is good for trade.
If you look at people's comments in threads on Mastodon, Lemmy, Reddit, and Proton's forum portal <protonmail.uservoice.com/forum…>, you'll notice that many if not most people are upset at how poorly the CEO treated Proton's employees, and at how he pushes to prioritize speed to security, again belittling the engineers' concerns about that. Sure, some protesters are "purely anti-AI". But I'd say most are against the poor workplace behaviour, and the poor or mis- use of LLMs pushed by the CEO and CTO.
The CEO himself posted a message about this on Reddit <reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/commen…>, saying that he didn't mean to "push for AI", and you can see that most of the upvoted replies, even the one from the ex Global Head of Software, say things like:
> If you truly believe the backlash over the last few days has been about AI, then you have fundamentally misunderstood the situation.
> My issue has much less too do with the AI coding and much more to do with how you are treating your people.
> Anyone speaking to employees the way you do is not fit to lead people.
> You did not 'fail to communicate', you very successfully communicated that you're an insecure bully who has no place in a professional environment.
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in reply to undrendo • •Trade makes the CEO, just like a Monopoly player, maximize his or the company's profits at all costs. If that means treating the employees poorly, so be it. Endless examples of that.
"he pushes to prioritize speed to security, again belittling the engineers' concerns about that." To quote you. Why he does that? Trade. He needs to make more money for the company and using AI is useful for that purpose.
undrendo
in reply to Tio • • •I wasn't really replying about the trade aspect, but about the reason why users where unhappy.
I generally agree with what you have in mind about "trade". Though "trade" is a very broad word, and not intrinsically negative. We trade with people everyday. I can trade a favour from a dear friend with a favour to them from me. Or trade something I don't need but someone else needs with something they don't need but I do. So, as I see it, trade can also happen with empathy and love.
What you mean, I would maybe call it "commerce". But maybe that isn't the right word either...
Tio
in reply to undrendo • •I understand and I agree, this is why when this comes up I always say I mean trade inside our society - the marketplace. The need to trade in order to make it in this world. I explained in detail in the book from the post. Mutually agreed favors can be ok, for sure. But a company is not that, or a job, etc.. They are forced exchanged with consequences.
So the need to trade and the fact that trade is at the core of our society and you cannot do without, is the problem. That is what I mean. I hope I made it more clear.