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in reply to Tio

thank you for what you do, we need original peertube content.
In my very small channel I upload exclusively to peertube, but unfortunately I get very few views and almost no comments
in reply to Federico

Thank you! What is your channel?
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in reply to Tio

I agree, we need much more promotion so it can take traction, that seems to be the biggest hurdle at the moment.

In it's current state #peertube and it's connection to the #fediverse via #activitypub is already far superior to #youtube ! In addition to so many other features:)

One thing I think that is really needed is perhaps a way to "boost" content that could point to a central database on #joinpeertube so we would have a way of discovering popular videos.

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in reply to Tio

@tio!

Thanks for pointing out this issue and pushing for PeerTube to be more widely known!

Actually, we don't have the human resources (and therefore the time) to do what you suggest on our own.
We couldn't imagine promoting videos without first reviewing them, and watching videos... takes a lot of time!
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@Tio
in reply to PeerTube

What we could imagine is a community effort to curate exclusive PeerTube videos.
Something like what @FediVideo already does.

That way, our small team could promote them more easily!
Either through our social medias or by adding them to the front page of joinpeertube.org.

Soooo... sorry for not saying "Yes, we'll work on it ASAP!" even though we'd love to do so!
Maybe in the future, with the help of our community, your suggestion will become possible!

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in reply to PeerTube

Thank you for the shoutout 🙏

"second hand youtube channels".

For what it is worth, the line between YouTube and PeerTube is not always as stark as this. For example @michellemay gets most of her views on YouTube but she features the Fediverse in her videos, she even did a video dedicated entirely to the Fedi which she put on YouTube.

Some are on both YouTube and PeerTube equally, and will interact on both platforms.

I think it is worth welcoming these kinds of accounts.

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in reply to Fedi.Video

in reply to Fedi.Video

@FediVideo the problem with discoverability for me hasn't been the "second hand youtube videos" (I found most of the content creators I watch on PeerTube from their social links on YouTube). The problem (for me as a user, I bet has a content creator it is the same to be found) is looking for content, on YouTube it is (even if worsening daily) an easy experience because all the content is in one place. For example, using NewPipe allows me to search the local or federated PeerTube instances that I have had to add (try saying that three times without failing) on some forgotten menu. Is there a way to "connect" the search on PeerTube to the whole federation (without leaving PeerTube, ergo, keeping people inside the same "portal"/experience)? I know this is a centralised way of thought, but someone coming from centralised platforms (not being technical-minded) will quit after a few seconds.

@tio thank you for the content, I've subscribed to several channels on the instance and I'll be showing them to my family and friends.

in reply to João Tiago Rebelo

@jt_rebelo @FediVideo I believe PeerTube supports integrated Seipa-search? Could be mistaken. I think it's something each instance/platform can enable.
in reply to Bloodaxe

@bloodaxe I haven't found it working that well (without being logged in an the instance itself or in a PeerTube compatible app). I've been using sepiasearch, then adding the instance to NewPipe, and then selecting the instance and looking for the video, subscribing to the channel/author. On YouTube I'd search in-app, select the video or channel/author and subscribe. Those extra steps might be putting many people off (I know the official PeerTube nightly app minimises this with the built-in search, I hope it'll solve the problem once it goes into the wild, can't come fast enough).
@FediVideo @peertube @tio
in reply to João Tiago Rebelo

@jt_rebelo @FediVideo yes absolutely, any friction that can be eliminated probably should be. If the goal is reaching as wide an audience as possible ofc.
in reply to João Tiago Rebelo

I agree that Peertube loses something good about centralization: a way to search the entire Peertube network. I think joinpeertube.org/browse-conten… does that well tho. And every instance can enable global searches like we do with videos.trom.tf - tho this is a general issue with decentralization and even these global searches will not search through all of the content.

One server needs to discover another and its contents in order to be aware of them. But this technology I think is still in its early stages and looking at how much Peertube evolved over the past 2-3 years it gives me hope that there will be better solutions for this.

I like the idea of grayjay.app/ where you are following "creators" and not channels. Can be Youtube, Peertube, or whatever. The fediverse needs to be integrated with the other platforms like this through some sort of app maybe....

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in reply to Tio

this 💯%. And coming. Federation apps (under the same protocol) could search everywhere the creators and their creations, like grayjay, yes (wasn't remembering it existed).
@peertube love the work you have been doing (and the steady betterment of PeerTube as a whole), and @FediVideo 's work for a better Fediverse too. Thank you all!
in reply to João Tiago Rebelo

PeerTube's own Sepia Search is trying to cover having a single search system in one place. It uses a blocklist system to screen out bad content when it's reported.

I'm trying to do my own single place to discover content at fedi.video but using an allowlist system instead, so I only allow accounts to appear on the site if I manually approve them.

These are the two ways of providing a unified search for discovery, I think there's a place for both?

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in reply to Tio

I'm not sure what you are asking?

I'm just one person.

in reply to Fedi.Video

Yes that's what I was asking - so you manage multiple accounts I see social.chinwag.org/@FediThing - must be quite time consuming.
in reply to PeerTube

I understand about vetting the videos. I also have to do this with the content we promote. Takes time indeed. But somehow this needs to be done bit by bit so that people understand Peertube is not just a place to mirror youtube videos. You do enough work on the software already so I am thinking if there are ways for me/us to help with the content discovery.

Maybe if you'd have some guidelines as to what can go on the joinpeertube page some people could "apply" to get their content featured.

In any case, thanks for your work. We will continue ours ;).