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Tio

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A bunch of atoms that are curious about the world, but furious about the society. We should help all humans to have a decent life without any strings attached, so that we can understand us, the atoms, and the rest of the universe. And create a smarter and saner society.

Since 2005 I make documentaries, write books, and enable many trade-free platforms for everyone.

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Tio

1 year ago •

Tio
1 year ago •

These days we had to do a lot of coding, and because @Rokosun 's computer broke and he can only help from his phone, I tried to use chatGPT to help me with that. We are working hard on TROMjaro to push a new release with many fixes and improvements. Here are my thoughts about the bot's coding abilities:

It is impressive! And impressively stupid! At times it is shocking how good it is at interpreting what you throw at it. Like code plus normal language in one go. Great at explaining pieces of code too. BUT unless you yourself know how to code, you can't use this motherfucker. It messed up pretty much all of the coding very badly to the point of making it a disaster to use. Sure, a few times it spotted some syntax errors.....

However if it weren't for @Rokosun who is amazing at coding, then I would have been lost and tricked by the bot. I even did a quick experiment just

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Avi Volah

in reply to Tio • 1 year ago • •

I coded a chrome extension with GPT 4 (march version, the one that was better and smarter then the current one), without knowing js at all! i didnt even know which coding language is used to code a chrome extension.. but it wasnt in one prompt and it was a tedious [copy - paste - test - feedback to it] loop, but it definitely can (and will be able to even more so in the near future) to code for you without you knowing code at all.

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Tio

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You may see it working, but if you cannot check the code it can, and it will be risky. We tested it a lot and I'm telling you, and @Rokosun and @Roma can confirm, that it will mess things up and invent a lot of BS code. So these tools, at least for now, need to always be checked by humans. And we tried simple code, imagine if it were to create a complex code with different layers....no way.

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Rokosun

in reply to Tio • 1 year ago • •

@avi917
I will say that you can use chatGPT to code if you want to, and the code can work for you as well, but like Tio said the issue here is that if you don't know how to code then you can't review or understand what chatGPT gave you. For example, when Tio used AI to write code and then later when I checked it there was a function that was never used at all - basically a pile of unused code that does nothing but sits there. AI feels a lot like rolling a dice.

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Avi Volah

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for now, maybe.. :)

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Rokosun

in reply to Avi Volah • 1 year ago • •

@avi917 If you don't care about clean code and just want something to get done then maybe AI works for you, its success rate depends on the complexity/uniqueness of the task you wanna get done, in the worst case scenario it can give you harmful code - tho it's statistically less likely to happen. The fact that you had to go through this tedious process of back and forth to get your code working is why I said it's like rolling a dice - again and again until it finally works.