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I just watched the tromcast about movies. This time there were more people than the last one, I think it made it more interesting. You've talked about all the important stuff there, good points, good discussions. I'm sorry I couldn't be there for live, but we can discuss things here I guess.
BTW, watching y'all talk on TROMcast was more entertaining and educational than any movie or documentary, it made my day 😄
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Next TROM-Cast: Movies. Sat 17th, 19:00 Madrid time.
We will discuss the topic of movies. Anyone can join. It will be live-streamed here tromsite.com/live/ - tomorrow we will schedule it on our Peertube. videos.trom.tf/video-channels/…
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Big thanks to the people who keep on supporting us financially via Patreon, Liberapay, Paypal and other means. We need to pay for our serves and to "buy" some free time for us to work on all of our TROM projects. We have a lot of them as you can see here tromsite.com/tools/ . From books and videos and documentaries, to websites where you can watch thousands of documentaries/movies/courses for free, to a custom Operating System and hundreds of curated trade-free apps, to a trade-free directory or trade-free alternatives to youtube, twitter/facebook, wetransfer, google and its services and a lot more. So please help us if you can!
The more donations we get, the more reliable what we offer becomes and the more relaxed we can be in order to create more stuff. Go here and support if you can tromsite.com/donate/ . Thanks! #tromlive
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in reply to Tio • •Assuming you had a land with self generated electricity and water, you still need to spend your personal time growing own food/garden, cooking own meal, if want to eat meat need to slaughter chicken/fish/cow, spending lots of time at kitchen. This may result not much difference with any trade-based society, although you only work for yourself, what happened once you getting old? There are merits in creating self-resilient community like protect environment, but intentional community also produce extra or having co-op business that sell something at the open market in exchange for money. Thus, there are not completely moneyless, self-sufficient electricity/water infrastructure may become old and you may need money for repair.
Trom is advocating basic necessities can be provided by fully implement today's automation technology, thus nobody need to be exploited nor putting price tag on neccessities. We are still far away from achieve that, therefore at this point of time, i only can see tradeless/sharing property space is a viable transition project from individual standpoint,
... show moreAssuming you had a land with self generated electricity and water, you still need to spend your personal time growing own food/garden, cooking own meal, if want to eat meat need to slaughter chicken/fish/cow, spending lots of time at kitchen. This may result not much difference with any trade-based society, although you only work for yourself, what happened once you getting old? There are merits in creating self-resilient community like protect environment, but intentional community also produce extra or having co-op business that sell something at the open market in exchange for money. Thus, there are not completely moneyless, self-sufficient electricity/water infrastructure may become old and you may need money for repair.
Trom is advocating basic necessities can be provided by fully implement today's automation technology, thus nobody need to be exploited nor putting price tag on neccessities. We are still far away from achieve that, therefore at this point of time, i only can see tradeless/sharing property space is a viable transition project from individual standpoint, after we had enough resident i will start collecting donation to buy a second property and so forth, until all the activist had free accommodation before open to public.
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in reply to ZeitgeistMalaysia • • •I think trom is focusing more on spreading the message right now, cause this is an important first step.
I understand what you're trying to do, it'll be nice if such volunteers could focus more on their work and less about personal stress like food and accommodation. But there are still problems that needs to be solved, like if someone wanted to come to your city they probably need a passport, visa etc. But its still better than nothing :)
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in reply to ZeitgeistMalaysia • •Where in TROM 1 we talk about trade as the origin of most problems? And second: we argue, strongly that is and in over 1k pages book, that we need to focus on a problem rather than solutions. Focusing on a problem gives rise to solutions. Read it here tromsite.com/books/#flipbook-d…
In the past I didn't know as much about our society so I accused money as the problem. And indeed people invented other kinds of money, like cryptocurrencies. Misleading.
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