@Tio : Today we are going to record @Georgi for TROM II :) - then make a pizza night haha. Lets see if we can record it all in one go, if not we will record the rest tomorrow. @Aaron should also arrive this week for the recordings and @Sasha is getting ready for her recording. We have around 1 month left in this apartment so we want to do the recordings faster. Unfortunately we do not have enough money to survive on our own (me and Sasha) so we are forced to move to my parents' house. It will be more difficult from now on, but what can we do!? Unless a complete miracle happens and we get a lot of financial support in the next weeks, nothing will change.
It is funny how this society makes someone like me, who dedicates so much time trying to understand it and explain it to others and create a ton of free tolls and help others, move away form this behavior and maybe get a job in order to survive. A job that is the opposite of that: probably one that scams people, sells more shit so we create more waste, ruins the internet (see SEO), and so forth. In other words, this society pushes me to go from "I want to understand the world and create nice things for others" to "I need to make money at any cost...scam others, waste, consume...don't care"...
Anyways. I will keep on pushing myself to stay sane and be able to do these projects. But of course, any financial help helps a fuck ton. #tromlive
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in reply to Tio • •Assuming you had a land with self generated electricity and water, you still need to spend your personal time growing own food/garden, cooking own meal, if want to eat meat need to slaughter chicken/fish/cow, spending lots of time at kitchen. This may result not much difference with any trade-based society, although you only work for yourself, what happened once you getting old? There are merits in creating self-resilient community like protect environment, but intentional community also produce extra or having co-op business that sell something at the open market in exchange for money. Thus, there are not completely moneyless, self-sufficient electricity/water infrastructure may become old and you may need money for repair.
Trom is advocating basic necessities can be provided by fully implement today's automation technology, thus nobody need to be exploited nor putting price tag on neccessities. We are still far away from achieve that, therefore at this point of time, i only can see tradeless/sharing property space is a viable transition project from individual standpoint,
... show moreAssuming you had a land with self generated electricity and water, you still need to spend your personal time growing own food/garden, cooking own meal, if want to eat meat need to slaughter chicken/fish/cow, spending lots of time at kitchen. This may result not much difference with any trade-based society, although you only work for yourself, what happened once you getting old? There are merits in creating self-resilient community like protect environment, but intentional community also produce extra or having co-op business that sell something at the open market in exchange for money. Thus, there are not completely moneyless, self-sufficient electricity/water infrastructure may become old and you may need money for repair.
Trom is advocating basic necessities can be provided by fully implement today's automation technology, thus nobody need to be exploited nor putting price tag on neccessities. We are still far away from achieve that, therefore at this point of time, i only can see tradeless/sharing property space is a viable transition project from individual standpoint, after we had enough resident i will start collecting donation to buy a second property and so forth, until all the activist had free accommodation before open to public.
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in reply to ZeitgeistMalaysia • • •I think trom is focusing more on spreading the message right now, cause this is an important first step.
I understand what you're trying to do, it'll be nice if such volunteers could focus more on their work and less about personal stress like food and accommodation. But there are still problems that needs to be solved, like if someone wanted to come to your city they probably need a passport, visa etc. But its still better than nothing :)
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in reply to ZeitgeistMalaysia • •Where in TROM 1 we talk about trade as the origin of most problems? And second: we argue, strongly that is and in over 1k pages book, that we need to focus on a problem rather than solutions. Focusing on a problem gives rise to solutions. Read it here tromsite.com/books/#flipbook-d…
In the past I didn't know as much about our society so I accused money as the problem. And indeed people invented other kinds of money, like cryptocurrencies. Misleading.
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