30. The Money Game and Beyond - Systems to Organize Societies - Part 3 videos.trom.tf/w/tHhSD13GGbewX… - Great job Aaron!
30. The Money Game and Beyond - Systems to Organize Societies - Part 3
Before we continue with our mission to find a way how we can organize those people on mars in a way that is beneficial for both the people and planet, we need to look at the state of planet earth today.videos.trom.tf
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Make TROMjaro look like Pop OS! forum.tromjaro.com/t/make-trom… - this is how badass XFCE is! #tromlive
Make TROMjaro look like Pop OS!
This is the end result: And here’s the video tutorial: Grab the XFCE Pop OS Theme from here. And the wallpaper from here. And from here you can grab the Panel Profile.TROMjaro Forum
The TROMjaro homepage is the best way to understand what TROMjaro OS is tromjaro.com/ - you'll get to see all of its major features and such. We updated the page a bit to reflect the latest features that we've added. #tromlive
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Here's the awesome TROMjaro Menu with custom searches forum.tromjaro.com/t/custom-me… #tromlive
Custom Menu Searches
Our menu supports custom searches. If you type in the Menu: “web” and then something say “web how many people are on earth?” and press enter, it will open our trade-free search engine and it will search for “how many people are on earth?”.TROMjaro Forum
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in reply to TROM • • •I agree with these points. But let's not forget we can't change people by naming and shaming. I'm Dutch, so I'm used to direct criticism, it's part of our culture. But some people tend to shy away when you address their ways as bad (such as not using open-source). I hope I'm wrong of course and we can just tell people to use something that aligns with our RBE goals without drama. But humans are emotional beings :)
How many people are involved with TROM? You're doing a lot!
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in reply to TZM Community Forum • •I understand that we have to be nice and friendly. And I'd say 99% of the time we have this attitude via TROM. But at times a more strong-worded post may do more good than harm. I am sorry you or others may have felt a bit attacked by this post. It was not meant to be like that. Just to be a more direct and honest one.
We are doing these tools for many years now and maybe at times it is a bit frustrating to see that even groups like TZM or TVP seem to not take advantage of them. We get a lot more involvement and interest from people outside these groups. Perhaps it is a lack of understanding on both or at least one side. TROM focuses on a problem while these other orgs seem to focus on a solution. One that is ill defined and so far non existent. Fresco via TVP was always, from my understanding, focused on a problem. This entire monetary system. His RBE idea was, from my understanding again, just a way to showcase that in theory we could ditch the monetary system for another system. But the important message was the problem. So TROM tries desperately to talk about the proble
... show moreI understand that we have to be nice and friendly. And I'd say 99% of the time we have this attitude via TROM. But at times a more strong-worded post may do more good than harm. I am sorry you or others may have felt a bit attacked by this post. It was not meant to be like that. Just to be a more direct and honest one.
We are doing these tools for many years now and maybe at times it is a bit frustrating to see that even groups like TZM or TVP seem to not take advantage of them. We get a lot more involvement and interest from people outside these groups. Perhaps it is a lack of understanding on both or at least one side. TROM focuses on a problem while these other orgs seem to focus on a solution. One that is ill defined and so far non existent. Fresco via TVP was always, from my understanding, focused on a problem. This entire monetary system. His RBE idea was, from my understanding again, just a way to showcase that in theory we could ditch the monetary system for another system. But the important message was the problem. So TROM tries desperately to talk about the problem, and in the same time create and promote solutions that are a vessel for information in that regard.
So we strongly argue that trade is the origin of most problems (not money as Jacque or others were pointing at - trade is far more encompassing); and we create trade-free goods/services to both help people and help spread that original message of " trade is the origin of most problems ". And I do not think groups like TVP or TZM understand this approach or see it that relevant. They seem to focus on an idea like RBE, that seems "out of this world".
Ok. Long post. How many people are involved with TROM? A handful. Very few actually.
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in reply to TROM • • •impressive that you are able to do all this with a handful of people!
forum.tzm.community and meet.tzm.community are my efforts to change TZM more towards open-source. Practice what we preach. The server also runs on renewable energy.
I think activism is luxury. People need to have the time and energy to work on it. For some it's a bridge too far to switch to open-source software and decentral platforms. It's very sad. Also since some people stick to Discord. We should do better.
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in reply to TZM Community Forum • •Oh that's very nice! We should then keep in touch. We do a lot in that regard. We have a ton of tools and such. We can help each other ion that regards ofc. I like that you have Jitsi Meet on your server, it is something we do not have. We are on Matrix so if you wanna join our Discussion chat here matrix.to/#/#chat:matrix.trom.… - we can give you some tips if you want, and help here and there to setup some open source services on your server.
We see the value in the open source not simply because it is open, but because many such projects are trade-free. They do not want anything in return from you, the end user. And that creates better incentives overall.
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in reply to TROM • • •hi! Sorry for the late response. I was super busy with work.
Let's indeed keep in touch! I'll install a Matrix client this week so that we can chat. I now use Element, which uses the private server from work. Multi account is not yet supported, so I'll use a GNOME Matrix client to connect with the regular Matrix network I guess.
I agree on what you say about open-source. But let's not forget that much work is done by Intel, RedHat, IBM, etc. It's not purely trade-free :) It can be though
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in reply to TZM Community Forum • •For example we contacted TZM, Peter Joseph, and others to ask them to move from the ad-networks to the networks we have that are trade-free. But no response. And I think they do not see the value in this. We have to showcase to the others that there are trade-free alternatives out there and maybe we can build more of them. But if you guys and others fighting this nonsense society, feel it is difficult to merely change your online presence to a saner alternative, how can we change this society? I am glad to see you on the Fediverse. What is the TZM Community Forum?
So in essence if we bring people to these alternative networks we also make a point about how facebook and the like are "bad" and why they are "bad" (because you have to trade with them - your data, attention, currency - and this incentivizes them to do a lot of "bad"); and at the same time we showcase that we can create trade-free social networks that are decentralized. We showcase how alternatives do work. Not to mention that we can keep people a bit more sane by nit having to use those ad-networks.
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