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A bunch of atoms that are curious about the world, but furious about the society. We should help all humans to have a decent life without any strings attached, so that we can understand us, the atoms, and the rest of the universe. And create a smarter and saner society.

Since 2005 I make documentaries, write books, and enable many trade-free platforms for everyone.

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1 year ago •

Tio
1 year ago •

I read this article https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/in-what-is-a-woman-matt-walsh-asks-a-question/ and then I watched the documentary "What Is a Woman?" + several discussions/debates about sex and gender. I wrote about this subject and I started a bigger book a year or so ago that I may finish it one day...

So...

I think both sides are wrong, and partially right at times. One side is like "There are only 2 genders, male and female, everything else is BS". These people are usually religious. The other side is like "There are many genders and people are born gay, or whatever, it is in our genes".

Now...what is trues is that most human beings are born either male of female, from a biological perspective. So their chromosomes or genitalia can be classified as one or another. And about 1-2% are in-between kinda, from that perspective. So we do have 2 sexes mainly, and exceptions that fit in-between (intersex). That's not something an

So...

But now what about how people behave? What they are sexually attracted to? Identify as? Well I could not find any study to show any strong correlation between any bio-chemical or genetic marker and any such behavior....to put it simply, you cannot look at anyone's genes, biology or chemistry and say "Ah, yeah this one likes males, this other one likes females. And this one identifies as a woman.". There is no such thing.

So this thing called "gender" has many meanings. Whatever people think they are, is whatever they think they are. Good for you. But there is nothing inborn about sexuality or sexual attraction. This applies for me, for you, for anyone else. So what!? We pick up our values, wishes, fears, funniness, from the environment. All we are is a creation of the environment. Good. Why is it that important to debate so long about gender and such!?

Anyone can identify as they wish, and fuck what they want, and behave in any way they want. If in the process they create any harm to someone else, we should focus on that. Easy.

LGBTQ TRELK GJDSNR etc. People should fuckin' relax. And also please do not entangle science with your feelings. If science tells us something, we should accept it regardless of the consequences.

Ok? :) #ŧromlive

In What Is a Woman?, Matt Walsh asks a question, but doesn’t like the answers

Matt Walsh's documentary asks What Is a Woman? His documentary is just as much of a propaganda film disguised as a documentary as any antivax film.

^{https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/author/ajeckert/#author (Science-Based Medicine)}

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Liwott

in reply to Tio • 1 year ago • •

Well I could not find any study to show any strong correlation between any bio-chemical or genetic marker and any such behavior....

According to Wikipedia, there seem to be many biological factors that significantly contribute to sexual orientation.
So what about the studies mentioned in this wiki article?

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Tio

in reply to Liwott • 1 year ago •

Point me to a specific study. They cite many.

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Liwott

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I am not an expert on human science, I definitely do not have one specific study in mind. But I see this Wikipedia article that cites many sources and that concludes

Biological theories for explaining the causes of sexual orientation are favored by scientists.

If you are going to write a book with the opposite conclusion, I hope that you are going to address those sources.
Maybe you can point to a scientific review that shares your conclusions?

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Tio

in reply to Liwott • 1 year ago •

Oh yeah I have plenty of very recent studies that show there is no strong correlation.

Basically you have to keep in mind one thing: no one can look at a human's biology (genes, brain, chemicals, hormones, etc) and say with certainty that this human is attracted to males, or identifies as a female, or anything like that. For that matter they cannot do so and say one is violent, a criminal, saint, calm, angry, depressed, schizophrenic, and so on. If this was the case, and it was reliable, then we could by now use these to identify people with all sorts of behavioral issues. So do not forget that.

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Liwott

in reply to Tio • 1 year ago • •

there is no strong correlation.

Maybe I do not understand how strong a correlation you are talking about. Of course it is not 100% genetics, but genetics do seem to play an important role.

How accurate is it to depict that question as "people who believe only sex matters" vs "people who thing gender identity and orientation are 100% genetics"?

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Tio

in reply to Liwott • 1 year ago •

This is what I mean by strong correlation: if we take Disease A and have a strong correlation with the genes TG and TT, then it means that we can predict who will get the Disease A with a better than 50/50 (random) guess just by looking at the TG and TT genes.

It means if you have 1 million people then a random guy and a scientist: the random guy will randomly say "These people have the Disease A" and the scientist looks at those particular genes and based on that says "These people have the Disease A", the scientist needs to do much better than the random guy. That means better than a guess.

When it comes to sexuality and sexual attraction and take 1 million people, then the random guy and the scientist will do quite the same, 50/50 since the scientist cannot look at any bio-chemical thing and say "This one is attracted to females, this one identifies as a male".

You know what I mean?

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Liwott

in reply to Tio • 1 year ago • •

Ok I see what you mean, it seems indeed that there is no biological factor that can give a strong enough evaluation on whether an individual is indeed part of a sexual minority.
However, the absence of such a strong correlation is not enough to claim that

But there is nothing inborn about sexuality or sexual attraction.

The percentage of queer people is far less than 50%, and so any biological factor that gives a probability higher than that number is something inborn about gender or sexuality

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Tio

in reply to Liwott • 1 year ago •

Yes the absence of a proof does not mean the proof of another thing. However considering that we know for sure that the human behavior is very influenced by the environment, then it is very likely this behavior too is part of that influence.

The percentage of queer people is far less than 50%, and so any biological factor that gives a probability higher than that number is something inborn about gender or sexuality

I did not get this...

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Liwott

in reply to Tio • 1 year ago • •

What I mean is that the "random guy" to beat to declare the existence of a biological contribution (ie of somthing inborn about gender or sexuality) is not 50/50. In the absence of favoring factors, not 50% of humans are LGBT+, so why should that be declared as the threshold?

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Tio

in reply to Liwott • 1 year ago •

No no 50/50 means "random". Maybe I should not have used that wording. But it is used in english quite a lot. So my point was that to pick who is say "gay" and who is not, will have the same accuracy between the random guy and the scientist. That's how they study these things to see if the prediction is better than chance. Hope you understand my point better now.

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Liwott

in reply to Liwott • 1 year ago • •

@Tio
Regarding my question

How accurate is it to depict that question as "people who believe only sex matters" vs "people who thing gender identity and orientation are 100% genetics"?

I read the article you originally linked and they don't seem at all to defend the idea that gender is something inborn

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Tio

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they don't seem at all to defend the idea that gender is something inborn

Gender is a social construct. They at least understand that. I am talking about the gender identity and sexual orientation. They do say that these are "inborn". I do not have the time to send you quotes form the article, but I also had a discussion with the author of the article in the comments. They clearly do.

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Rokosun

in reply to Liwott • 1 year ago • •

All of @tio's books contains sources, I mean lots of them, almost every single sentence or claim will have a "(source)" at the end of it, LMAO 🤣

But yeah this is how it should be, this is the scientific way

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Tio

in reply to Rokosun • 1 year ago •

Yeah I am obsessed with that. And that's good. However the sources also have to be "proper" sources. That is more difficult to achieve. At the end of the day I am not a politician who can take decisions, I am not a scientist that writes scientific papers, so the way I create the books is I think very much ok for that purpose, of informing people.

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Rokosun

in reply to Tio • 1 year ago • •

Yes and I think you do a good job at it, reading your books makes me think deeply about our world, and I think this is something the everyone needs right now. And all of your books are free too, no hidden costs, no ads, no data collection, etc, completely trade-free. You really are a big proponent of science and education, we need more people like you who're genuine about educating people 🙂
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Tio

in reply to Rokosun • 1 year ago •

Thank you for these kind words 😁

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Liwott

in reply to Liwott • 1 year ago • •

@Tio

Maybe you can point to a scientific review that shares your conclusions?

To rephrase, can you point to a recent meta-analysis that shares your conclusions?

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Tio

in reply to Liwott • 1 year ago •

Oh there are many many studies. Let me drop you a few:

I have more but should I share more? May be overwhelming ....

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Liwott

in reply to Tio • 1 year ago • •

Thanks for these links by the way ! I will start by going through the 2016 review cited by Wikipedia when I have some time. Then I'll try to find out what these apparently more recent studies add to it.

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Tio

in reply to Liwott • 1 year ago •

As far as I remember I went one by one on every study cited in WIkipedia then read the most actual studies. I have them all saved and all that. Looked at twins studies, intersex, the study of homosexuality and even animals.The strongest correlation they could find, which is weird, is the birth order. So if you are the 4th kid, you are statistically far more likely to become gay later on in life. They theorize why but they do not understand. Being the 6th kid increases the chances even more.

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Liwott

in reply to Tio • 1 year ago • •

So what is your take on all those sources you went through? Are they not reliable? Have all their results failed to be reproduced later on? Is Wikipedia overstating their importance?

In all cases, why not editing Wikipedia with the more recent results then?

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Rokosun

in reply to Tio • 1 year ago • •

The thing I hate about this is the involvement of politics here, it doesn't matter whether gender or sexual orientation is influenced by genes or not, people should still have the right to be whoever they want to be. And we don't have to defend gays by saying they're born that way, because if being gay is a learned behavior then being straight also is, there is no "natural behavior" here. I hate this nature argument so much, I wrote an entire post about it - https://social.trom.tf/display/dbc8dc44-1662-c496-d798-d90034423661

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@Tio See this video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w89etN8QqNQ I think he stumbled upon one important point towards the end of that video. The most fucke...

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Rokosun

in reply to Rokosun • 1 year ago • •

Tio, what this means for you is that some of these studies you read might be politically motivated instead of being scientifically motivated. This is big problem, we should be able to keep politics away from science, and no scientific studies should be used to oppress people.

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Tio

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Yeah well I am aware of the possibility....

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1 year ago •

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Damn it is a lot of work on this documentary....I managed to insert 1 out of 4 bits in the first part. 9 minutes....longer than the rest. I have 3 more bits to insert. I think in about a week I should be done with that. That is, done with the 1st part of the documentary. I said that before but I didn't go through all of the footage when I said that so I knew perhaps there is more to add to it.

When I am done with this I am done. Except maybe tweak some video effects, transitions, and such a little. Not much. I expect in a week to move to part 2 and insert the bits that need to be inserted there too.

I could be done with both parts in 2-3 weeks. Maybe less...depends how much I can work....

Then the next two parts are gonna be a lot of work since I need to fully edit them.

Let me share again some Kdnelive porn:

Damn looks crazy haha. I am using Kndelive Appimages so I can freeze

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Liwott

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Is the documentary going to be released part by part or all at once?

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Tio

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All at once

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2 years ago •

Tio
2 years ago •

TROM

2022-02-14 21:46:34

We are testing a trade-free Zoom replacement called Jitsi Meet at https://call.trom.tf/ - currently Firefox has a bug and may not work so try it with chromium based browsers. We recommend Ungoogled Chromium https://www.tromjaro.com/ungoogled-chromium/
Let us know if and how it works. Big thanks to @[url=https://mastodon.social/users/yunohost]YunoHost[/url] for providing it as a package. #ŧromlive
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Tio

2 years ago •

Tio
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So maybe we temporarily fixed the issue with Friendica, tho is too early so be sure.
I have deleted and re-added the mariadb.cnf file like the yunohost team suggested.

Then in etc/php/7.3/fpm/pool.d/friendica.conf I made sure I still have these:

pm = static
pm.max_children = 500
pm.max_requests = 1000

Then increase the wait time in etc/nginx/conf.d/social.trom.tf.d/friendica.conf

#Execute and serve PHP files
    location ~* \.php$ {
    fastcgi_connect_timeout 300s;
    fastcgi_send_timeout 300s;
    fastcgi_read_timeout 300s;  
        fastcgi_split_path_info ^(.+?\.php)(/.*)$;
        try_files $uri =404;
        fastcgi_pass unix:/var/run/php/php7.3-fpm-friendica.sock;
        fastcgi_index index.php;    
        include fastcgi_params;
        fastcgi_param SCRIPT_FILENAME $document_root$fastcgi_script_name;
    }

Lastly in /etc/nginx/nginx.conf add: worker_connections 10000;

So far it works. But let's see.... #ŧromlive

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Tio

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oh well....I saw the error again....what in the world :D

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2 years ago • •

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I love TROM.tf :) - so many awesome trade-free services! Today I spent all day working on this website, to test more stuff, improve other. I have 2 more on my list for now, that I wanted to add for a while: a notes service that syncs between any device + a trello alternative which is super useful for projects/teams. I am testing both of them. I'd also like to add more apps to tromjaro's library. But tomorrow I'll focus on TROM II again. #ŧromlive

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