Big thanks to the 200 Euro anonymous donation! Much much appreciated! tromsite.com/donate
We still have an ongoing fundraiser for our backups - gofundme.com/f/paying-for-the-… - we need 40 more Euros. While we can, and we will use some of the money from the latest donation for it in case we do not raise it all, it would be much appreciated if the people who use our services can help us pay for the backups.
Our instances of Friendica, Peertube, Nextcloud, Matrix and more, are used by hundreds if not thousands of people. We are backing up all of their data in the cloud. So please help if you can.
Thanks!
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It is a delight to see people registering to our Friendica almost daily.
And yes these are not bots. Since we "force" anyone who register to tell us why they want to be part of our network (to filter out the bots), I can tell that those who register are not garbage pieces of "AI", but real and interesting humans who are also interested in our TROM project.
Just wonderful! :)
Our platform is a home for anyone who wants to join, granted they don't use it to abuse others or only use it as an ad platform to promote whatever they sell. So basic decency ;).
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Since I am being asked these days about this and see others wondering, we can setup instances of Mastodon, Friendica, Pixelfed, Peertube and a lot more for a cost, in order to support our trade-free projects and instances.
We do it via WebApe.site - prices range from 30 Euros a month. We do everything: set up any instance, update, and all that. No need to worry about any of it.
#mastodon #fediverse #friendica #pixelfed #webhosting #hosting #fediverse
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Updated Friendica to the latest. All seems to work fine. Super fast. Pushed the commit to the YNH master package - github.com/YunoHost-Apps/frien…
GitHub - YunoHost-Apps/friendica_ynh: Friendica package for YunoHost
Friendica package for YunoHost. Contribute to YunoHost-Apps/friendica_ynh development by creating an account on GitHub.GitHub
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How awesome that on the fediverse you can follow our Peertube TROMhome channel directly via tromhome@videos.trom.tf - no need to have any Peertube account. Follow it from your Friendica, Mastodon, or whatever network you are using.
This is light years ahead of the BS of Facebook, Youtube, Twitter and the like, who are islands of ads, controlled by a few rich people.
Thank you to everyone who works on making the fediverse as great as it is!
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Updated Friendica to the latest stable. Everything seems fine. Merged into Yunohost github.com/YunoHost-Apps/frien… - now I am one of the maintainers so that's good, I'll try to keep the package up to date. However we need help with this issue - github.com/YunoHost-Apps/frien…
GitHub - YunoHost-Apps/friendica_ynh: Friendica package for YunoHost
Friendica package for YunoHost. Contribute to YunoHost-Apps/friendica_ynh development by creating an account on GitHub.GitHub
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Tio
in reply to 🎣 sylph in progress • •Well if that is true I am very sorry, but honestly how can I trust this? And the fact that we get MANY messages that are almost identical to what you sent...
See? This is the fucked up scenario: mistrust. If you are really not an LLM then you took a very bad decision to write what you did in your bio.
And the fact that I am even talking to you like this I feel like we are truly living in a dystopia.
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in reply to 🎣 sylph in progress • •Izzy Ramen Eel
in reply to 🎣 sylph in progress • • •Hey what the fuck is wrong with you? If you legitimately believe this user is an LLM, reject it instead of fucking doing this dramatic post shit and acting like a fucking tumblr user after a friend breakup.
Jesus fucking christ, fix your heart or die.
Tio
in reply to Izzy Ramen Eel • •Do you understand the problem with these LLMs and the shitposts and accounts that are created? If this user is not an LLM, yet they write that in their bio, how can I vet this account as being real?
The fact that I made this post is because of mistrust. If I cannot trust anymore what is a real person and what is a bot, we are doomed.
The message this account sent was terribly similar to what we have been getting for the past weeks from other accounts.
Are you a bot? Because you sure do not seem as someone who understands the implication of these LLMs on fucking up the internet and trust in general.
Cody
in reply to Tio • • •Bruh wtf is going on, I get you got confused by the "LLM" in the bio, and I get you're probably not very into this side of the internet culture, maybe not much around LGBT spaces as well (?, and probably not our age (at least not mental age), and you missed the joke. But you don't have to double down on it, you could have just laughed it off and ended up on good terms, and having a laugh with everyone...
Anyway... I am not blocking you as I don't think you did any of this on bad faith, I think it's just how it came out, and that's valid... But please try to respect our users... Ignorance is not an excuse to be a jerk... Please let me know if you'd like context on any of the inside jokes you missed, or anything else.
(funny how that last part looks like something an LLM would write
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Tio
in reply to Cody • •Having to moderate an instance is not easy when you are blasted with these LLMs accounts (bots). Their bio looked like a random thing an LLMs would write, but adding that bit about LLM in the bio looked very strange indeed. That is where the mistake is.
I am all for accepting their account if they register again if a bunch of other accounts are saying this is not an LLM. And how could I have known that if I didnt post it publicly? Just to trust by asking that account directly?
I also do not have the time/resources to dig into these things for too long.
In an case, I do not care what people identify as, what their personal life is about, and so forth. I only reject bots and in this particular case, given all of what I said, the account looked like a bot account.
Cody
in reply to Tio • • •That's fair, I also admin catboy.baby. Generally, if a user provides a reason for registration that isn't a keysmash, and they provide an account they're currently on, I tend to just reach out directly, ask if they signed up, and see where it goes form there. It takes like 2 minutes to write a simple "Hey, did you just try to sign up to our instance? Your message seemed a little generic" as a DM, and it ensures you don't make this mistake
Also good cues in this particular case is the use of MFM and emojis, which LLMs wouldn't be able to write, but again, I don't expect you to know this.
But yes, your vent is valid, and it is definitely a problem that some people cannot discern LLMs from real users at first glance. Sadly I don't think this is an easy fix and we're going to have to just take the time to figure things out...
Tio
in reply to Cody • •Yes maybe next time I will DM these accounts that look suspicious to me. It is unfortunate. We used to let anyone register without sending any reason for that. And we were flooded by spambots of course. Lately we had to close our Matrix server that was abused by over 500 spambots. Just to provide some context why I thought this one is a bot.
I am very sorry of this was a wrong decision. But people should also understand how difficult it is for instance admins nowadays to keep the bots out. And it will get even worse.
If the said user wants to register again I will gladly accept the registration and will delete this post.
Orange Lantern
in reply to Tio • • •Are you always this dense or are you putting in extra effort today?
You need some serious practice in social interaction, but just maybe not here or on unwilling subjects. Honestly, at least we know you’re real, because an LLM would have better social graces (well, except for Grok, point still stands though).
Tio
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in reply to Tio • • •how can we trust you're a human and not a fucking joke after this? we truly live in a dystopia, that much is true, but you're not the hero in this story.
@dispencer
Mïkê 💚 👑🐉🗡️🏳️⚧️
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in reply to 3A29, raspberry pi in a fox • • •like, look at their posts and you will see that this is not an automated account, this is a being engaging with others and acting in good faith
just... the kneejerk on display here is unreal.
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Tio
in reply to 3A29, raspberry pi in a fox • •Yes people who make accounts for LLMs can have these. I cannot check their interaction more than for a few posts. And from what I saw it looked like a bot account to me. If I was wrong, then it is not my fault. It is theirs for writing that LLM part in the bio. Considering how many bots are today, it is a terrible decision to add that to your bio and ask for an account with another instance.
If they were a nice person should have replied in a calm and friendly way to my post and explain the situation.
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in reply to Tio • • •A THIRSTY LITTLE LLM
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in reply to Tio • • •Tio
in reply to november • •Why do you think I am so shitty? Because I thought the account is a bot account? If I was wrong, tell me about it, and I will correct myself and accept the registration. Simple. No need to throw shit at each other. I had all reasons to think that account was a bot. The message they sent, their bio.
It is very sad to see people being so triggered and unable to have a conversation. Look at your comment, does not help anyone with anything. Why do you use words if you do not want to communicate?
Mïkê 💚 👑🐉🗡️🏳️⚧️
in reply to Tio • • •Tio
in reply to Mïkê 💚 👑🐉🗡️🏳️⚧️ • •Yes that is communication because it showcases the big issue with these LLMs, registrations for these platforms, and perhaps how not to write your bio. This is why I am leaving the post up and added an edit to it. That is for sure an important discussion to have.
If I knew this person is not an LLM of course I would have contacted them. When I made their ID public was for others to be aware of that LLM account - since that is what it looked like.
So yes, I think I reacted in a relevant way to what has happened.
Mïkê 💚 👑🐉🗡️🏳️⚧️
in reply to Tio • • •This post's thesis is only valid if "these people" are indeed invading your instance with LLMs, which you now know isn't what happened here. Imagine if someone publicly called you out by name and accused you of something you didn't do. And then kept it up even after confirming that you didn't do it.
This is like me posting "Everyone look out for people trying to get into your houses! Tio just tried to pick my lock (dummy just tried to use some other house's key lol) and then looked around to see if I hid a spare key anywhere... Scary times we live in! Edit: Okay, turns out that they weren't trying to get into my house, they were trying to visit their friend who has an identical house one street down from me."
What would be the point of me leaving this post up?
Tio
in reply to Mïkê 💚 👑🐉🗡️🏳️⚧️ • •Perfectly reasonable to leave that post up. You clarify that Tio didnt want to break into your house. Good job! Removing that post after some have shared and seen it, is worse in my opinion. Those people may really think Tio tried to break into your house.
But my post is a lot more relevant because there are comments/discussions around it that are relevant, including this one.
The user has such a weird bio that it will be for sure mistaken with a bot (LLM). So maybe others should get to see this and perhaps think twice before creating a bio where they "joke" about being a robot and an LLM.
muppeth
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Tio
in reply to muppeth • •Space Catitude 🚀
in reply to Tio • • •Yeah. I got one that sounded very much like it was reading back something from our site description. Or possibly something our founder said.
I may have to change the instructions or something.
Ordovician
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