After doing some tests, I'd say the global menus + HUD + topbar window buttons work with around 70% of applications. Is that good? Not ideal! But the good part is that the apps that don't work with these are small apps that either don't need to be maximized or have a complex menu. The vast majority of them are like that. So we think about if we should maybe add some buttons/options for users to enable/disable the global menus + top bar window buttons + HUD.
I am also uploading a video I made about how TROMjaro XFCE works on a tablet. Probably will post it tomorrow. These days I am pretty sure we will get it to the Beta version and will add it as official on tromjaro.com. #tromlive
I think we may be ready for a TROMjaro Beta very very soon! I finally installed it on my microsoft tablet and XFCE rocks! I mean yah I also had to set it up properly but here are the great news first, then the not so great (bit sill not that bad) news:
The great: - I managed to setup proper and basic gestures for: touchscreen, touchpad, mouse. Closing windows, tiling them, minimize, switch workspaces, or closing windows, is so so easy and so nice using either of those inputs. - I manged to add and setup a virtual keyboard. Is easy to access and very functional. - Pretty much everything works on the tabled and is so nice. Let me give you 2 simple examples. In Gnome I had to install an extension to be able to switch between the input and output devices from the volume drop down. In XFCE this is, of course, integrated. Second, in XFCE you can play and even change the volume per application. So say you listen to music and to a podcast and want to switch between them, in XFCE from the same drop down you can play and pause any. I have no clue how this is done in Gnome..
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I think we may be ready for a TROMjaro Beta very very soon! I finally installed it on my microsoft tablet and XFCE rocks! I mean yah I also had to set it up properly but here are the great news first, then the not so great (bit sill not that bad) news:
The great: - I managed to setup proper and basic gestures for: touchscreen, touchpad, mouse. Closing windows, tiling them, minimize, switch workspaces, or closing windows, is so so easy and so nice using either of those inputs. - I manged to add and setup a virtual keyboard. Is easy to access and very functional. - Pretty much everything works on the tabled and is so nice. Let me give you 2 simple examples. In Gnome I had to install an extension to be able to switch between the input and output devices from the volume drop down. In XFCE this is, of course, integrated. Second, in XFCE you can play and even change the volume per application. So say you listen to music and to a podcast and want to switch between them, in XFCE from the same drop down you can play and pause any. I have no clue how this is done in Gnome.. - The way XFCE workspaces work is not as cool, but a lot more sane and useful
The not so great: - the virtual keyboard misfires at times....but rarely - the dock left menu is a bit buggy but is a new XFCE project so expect for it to improve
Tomorrow I'll make a video to showcase TROMjaro on a tablet with touch gestures and all that! XFCE is fucking sane! Enough settings to let you do pretty much anything you want with it, but not too many so it will make you depressed at so many settings.
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I managed to customize HUD for TROMjaro XFCE:
Is beyond me how this functionality is not in every Linux distro by default. I see no negative aspects of it, only positive. You either do not use it and you don't care, or you use it and care a lot. Press a single keyboard key and go through all of the menu of an app quickly, find what you need and apply. So damn useful! It is part of our distro for sure! Plus global menus.
I think we've done most of what is to be done for TROMjaro XFCE, but we have to polish it a bit here and there and test more. I plan to release a beta soonish, and beta will be added to tromjaro.com to the install page and we will change the main tromjaro.com page to reflect TROMjaro XFCE. Plus we will release it like we do with the main ISO, with release notes and such. So that people can already use TROMjaro XFCE as their daily driver. Excited! @tromlive
Our Invidious instance is simply not reliable - ytb.trom.tf/ . I am tired of trying to find a solution to be honest. And I reported the issue to everywhere I could report it, many many times. Could be an issue with the @YunoHost packaging according to the Invidious developers. "502 Bad Gateway nginx" that's the error and we could not figure what is causing it. We have added a warning a while ago to trom.tf about this, so is not like we are not aware of it. We want to provide trade-free services that are reliable, but invidious is not one of them. SearX misfires a few times too, but 99% is working. If anyone can help here's one of the issues I opened github.com/YunoHost-Apps/invid…
We have a very fast SSD and we run 20+ other services that are far more resource hungry than invidious. All work fine. It is very likely an issue with how yunohost packaged it probably....
(From what I remember, we discussed this a while ago and concluded that the issue was in the Crystal language itself, c.f. github.com/crystal-lang/crysta… ...)
I'm seeing this error in my production Lucky app pretty often. Prior to Crystal 0.34 I would see it maybe a handful of times a day, but after upgrading to Crystal 0.34, we noticed we were seein...
Yes but this was not the issue. I talked a lot with the invidious developers and they said the error is just a "display" error. I also commented that line and made no difference.
I got the change to test it on a laptop for the first time, and it did not go well. Tried for like 2 hours. Then I realized I missed some stuff from the build. So I fixed it eventually. Meaning that the previous ISOs were not able to install the system, only to test it in a live environment. Sorry about that, but is the process of testing. So we fixed that and a few other things. There are some bugs like the wallpapers do not respect the workspaces we setup, it only showcases the first wallpaper. Plus we have to improve the way we deal with workspaces because currently the right side preview may become annoying.
I also tested the BTRF and timeshift snapshots and the great part is that they work very fast. Blazing fast. To backup and restore. However I could not restore form GRUB although you can see the options in our custom GRUB too. I don't know why but could not restore from there.
Now I will have to basically wait and see how well it works on that laptop + I will try to install it on my tablet to test it
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I got the change to test it on a laptop for the first time, and it did not go well. Tried for like 2 hours. Then I realized I missed some stuff from the build. So I fixed it eventually. Meaning that the previous ISOs were not able to install the system, only to test it in a live environment. Sorry about that, but is the process of testing. So we fixed that and a few other things. There are some bugs like the wallpapers do not respect the workspaces we setup, it only showcases the first wallpaper. Plus we have to improve the way we deal with workspaces because currently the right side preview may become annoying.
I also tested the BTRF and timeshift snapshots and the great part is that they work very fast. Blazing fast. To backup and restore. However I could not restore form GRUB although you can see the options in our custom GRUB too. I don't know why but could not restore from there.
Now I will have to basically wait and see how well it works on that laptop + I will try to install it on my tablet to test it on a touchscreen too. But first I'd like to add more touch and mouse gestures as default. So far, XFCE rocks!
Unfortunately you have to trade your attention (ads) to listen to it (a bit ironical), but hey it is great that we can get to talk about these ideas with new minds. Thank you Joey for the invitation and for the good questions.
Trade Free software! What is it? What is the trade free movement? We’ll discuss this with Tio from trom.tf, tromsite.com, and trade-free.org! We’ll be discussing the political and socioeconomic issues
We are releasing TROMjaro XFCE Aplha 2 for testing, if anyone is interested.
We did a bunch of improvements for workspaces, global menus + maximized windows, backups, the default apps and how they work, sessions and more. If you think MacOS or Windows are cool, check out TROMjaro XFCE hehe :). And it is trade-free!
I have delayed the TROM II work these days....you see I was using my 4TB HDD where all of the project files reside, inside my laptop where the main disk should be, and my OS disk was where the DVDroom used to be. But that wasnt great for my main disk. And the 4TB is too fat to put it in the DVDroom place. Anyways, I had to remove it and add it as "external" via USB, but I am still waiting for a case for it, else it stays connected in a weird way via USB 2.0. And I'd like not to use it much so to not damage it.
I did a lot of work on TROMjaro XFCE tho. Getting ready for a second Alpha release. This time I plan to install it on a laptop to properly test it.
Trying to stay positive, although I hate that word haha. I am very engaged and motivated to push TROM further. There are money obstacles that I can see ahead tho. I don't even want to look too further. I am doing a fuck ton of things and I wish others would be at least 5% as excited as I am about these. In the end, is not about "my" project, is about creating saner fuckin' things. I will relabel the TROMjaro XFCE, whe
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I have delayed the TROM II work these days....you see I was using my 4TB HDD where all of the project files reside, inside my laptop where the main disk should be, and my OS disk was where the DVDroom used to be. But that wasnt great for my main disk. And the 4TB is too fat to put it in the DVDroom place. Anyways, I had to remove it and add it as "external" via USB, but I am still waiting for a case for it, else it stays connected in a weird way via USB 2.0. And I'd like not to use it much so to not damage it.
I did a lot of work on TROMjaro XFCE tho. Getting ready for a second Alpha release. This time I plan to install it on a laptop to properly test it.
Trying to stay positive, although I hate that word haha. I am very engaged and motivated to push TROM further. There are money obstacles that I can see ahead tho. I don't even want to look too further. I am doing a fuck ton of things and I wish others would be at least 5% as excited as I am about these. In the end, is not about "my" project, is about creating saner fuckin' things. I will relabel the TROMjaro XFCE, when we will release it, as: "Install on your computer, made for your brain.". Because TROMjaro is not just an OS, is geared to make your digital life easier and saner.
In a way it scares me how many things I have to do/manage: trom.tf has 22 or so services, they need updated, customized, tested, backedup, and to keep them well configured. tromsite.com, tiotrom.com, videoneat.com, trade-free.org and the directory, and a bunch more websites that need to work, be updated, backedup. Our chats, my external hard drives where all my files and backups are, the people who depend on our services, tromjaro and the apps we showcase in our library, the documentary I'm making....at times I feel trapped in the computer. But then I wonder what else should I do with my life....go out see the nature that's cool, but my brain in hungry for more. I want to know, I want to learn, I want to inform others, I want to engage with others over important ideas.
I wish I had a thousand lives, to live a thousand ways.
Computers are not keyboards and screens, they are mind-toys. They open up a wormhole to your brain. And to me that's fascinating. For most is a pile of garbage, is facebook, youtube, twitter, ticktok, netflix and the like flushing their toilets into that wormhole. That's why our work at TROM is very important, because is not about the software. It's about your brain. It's about you not having to watch ads, sponsored content, trade your data, and use that time in better ways. Is about thousands of courses/documentaries on videoneat to make your brain experience reality; is about engaging with us, tromcast, trom.tf, keep yourself saner overall.
It wouldn't be wrong if I say the main purpose of TROM is education, right ? 🤔
Because in the end, I think that's what you're aiming for, to learn more about the world, share your knowledge with others, etc. TROM is for the curious minds :)
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Here's TROMjaro XFCE with proper global menu that extend to to top bar + window buttons on the top bar, and HUD. All was so easy to setup.
I want TROMjaro to be both beautiful and functional! As someone who is obsessed with keeping things neat but also have them being efficient, I think global menus and top bar window integrations, plus HUD, are doing exactly that. I edit videos and photos and I want to take advantage of my screen as much as possible. And now I can. Window top bar makes no sense when it is maximized and you already have a top panel. Unity did it well. Fortunately I could replicate that on XFCE. And HUD I keep on telling everyone, is the most useful tool I came across so far.
Ok I need to go out a little I am getting too obsessed with XFCE hahaha. #tromlive
We are releasing a new and different TROMJaro and we need people to test it. We want to give up Gnome and move to XFCE. Read more about it here https://www.tromjaro.com/tromjaro-xfce-alpha/ where you can also find the test ISO.
Basically it looks similar to the TROMjaro Gnome, but should be much faster, well built, has global menus, HUD, and more awesome stuff. Please give it a try and tell us what you think! #tromlive
TROMjaro XFCE Alpha by Tio These past days we’ve played a lot with a new desktop environment for our TROMjaro distro. Why? Because we rely on Gnome for the current …
Tomorrow I am invited to a radio/podcast to talk about the trade-free idea. That's very cool! Someone discovered our trom.tf and is interested in this trade-free approach. The episode should be out in about a week.
On another note I made progress with our TROMjaro XFCE version. So far so amazingly great. I am more convinced that we will give up Gnome and move to XFCE. Old users should not be worried. We will provide support for the TROMjaro Gnome indefinitely :D. We plan to make an XFCE version that is very similar to the Gnome one, to the point of not even being able to tell them apart. But, ofc, will be much faster and probably stable. Plus global menus and HUD. And a second version that will look and behave quite the same but will have almost no apps preinstalled, or some very light versions of those apps.
!Friendica Support Is there a way to stop birthday notifications? :D And for that matter event notifications? I seem to be getting a few of those but I have no clue how to stop them.
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Here's the new TROMjaro XFCE I work on, with global menus and HUD:
How awesome! And is so easy to make it work. Tested the global menus for many apps, all work. Will test HUD more and try to style it to blend with the theme we use. It is 10 times easier to create an ISO with XFCE than with Gnome, and on Gnome I could never properly add global menus or HUD. It was always a hacking thing and never really worked.
I am blown away by XFCE! I plan to release 2 ISOs with TROMjaro XFCE for anyone to test, soonish. One is a default TROMjaro with all of the goodies installed and setup, and one is super minimal for older computers and such. Stay tuned! #tromlive
Unfortunately we got a lot of issues. First that of sound. I forgot that I messed around with OBS these past days and I removed the input sound module for my computer from OBS. So I had to fix it live....then the connection to @Cleo of Topless Topics was not that great via Jitsi. I suspect is because the Jitsi instance we have used was hosted closer to us than to her, so her video quality was not that great + she interrupted a bunch of times. We did lots of tromcasts with people from all around the world but the connection was never as bad.
Lastly our live interrupted 2 times....and I have to investigate why. I have no clue at the moment. Maybe Peertube is too buggy when it comes to lives. I will test the live before our next TROMcast. Luckily I have recorded everything locally so all is saved.
Give it a bit of time to convert so you can stream it properTHank you to @Cleo of Topless Topics for participating! Very interesting discussion!
In this episode we will talk about the notion of nudity. Why are the clothesless human bodies seen as being obscene in today's society? Why is youtube, facebook and the like banning content simply because of naked bodies being shown?, We have written…
I got so trapped with this XFCE thing haha....I need to take a break. So far it looks really great and maybe we will only release TROMjaro XFCE instead of Gnome. But this will be a months long process and a slow transition. I need to get out a bit haha. I lived in the computer almost exclusively for the past 3 days. Tomorrow, late at night, we will have a very interesting tromcast with @Cleo of Topless Topics - 23:30 madrid time. Here videos.trom.tf/w/ueH6HswHA1MKh…
Some updates. I managed to improve some stuff for the TROM II Kdenlive project and many videos work a lot smoother. But have to thinker more with it. That's great!
Also, got to play a lot more with our TROMjaro XFCE version and man o man....I had no clue how awesome XFCE is. And for the first time in 5-6 years of using Gnome, I am thinking to move there. Here's how my TROMjaro XFCE looks like:
Yes that is a proper left side dock back with window preview and ability to display opened apps per display or workspace basis. And YAS that is a global menu that I setup in like 5 minutes - I struggled to do that on Gnome since Unity left the scene. Works with many apps, but a few do not. In any case, fuck ton better than the Gnome hack I've been trying for the past year. The desktop is bloody fast even in a VM, and to customize it you hardly have to install anything. It is built in. What would I miss from Gnome!?....idk....
So I am really thinking to fully switch to XFCE for myself and TROMjaro by default....but have to test it more and more. #tromlive
The TROM II project is so huge, it takes Kdenlive around 40 minutes to open it....it's also because the files are hosted on a cheap HDD....it is super expensive to buy a big 4TB SSD. Hundreds of euros. Can't afford that. It's funny because resource wise an SSD uses far less of them compared to an HDD. I also feel like my internal SSD is dying... Anyways... #tromlive
I'd love to but that's even more expenssive. Maybe I'll buy a 500GB nvme and replace my OS one, and use my OS SSD for at least the proxy clips...when you are broke there are not many options :D
Some 45 minutes in with TROM II. So far so great. I personally love it. I cannot wait to work tomorrow all day on it. It is a personal documentary but with some very important messages. Maybe is not personal tho...but we do talk about ourselves and I showcase lots of footage from our past and such. It is a different documentary than TROM II but so far feels more "catchy", easier to follow and be trapped by it, by following some of our stories and such. In any case, I hope I will be done with the first part this month. And that would be around 1h or so long. Then I start a new kind of chapter. Yah so far so great....I really like it. #tromlive
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