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I think trom is focusing more on spreading the message right now, cause this is an important first step.
I understand what you're trying to do, it'll be nice if such volunteers could focus more on their work and less about personal stress like food and accommodation. But there are still problems that needs to be solved, like if someone wanted to come to your city they probably need a passport, visa etc. But its still better than nothing :)
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Where in TROM 1 we talk about trade as the origin of most problems? And second: we argue, strongly that is and in over 1k pages book, that we need to focus on a problem rather than solutions. Focusing on a problem gives rise to solutions. Read it here tromsite.com/books/#flipbook-d…
In the past I didn't know as much about our society so I accused money as the problem. And indeed people invented other kinds of money, like cryptocurrencies. Misleading.
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I just watched the tromcast about movies. This time there were more people than the last one, I think it made it more interesting. You've talked about all the important stuff there, good points, good discussions. I'm sorry I couldn't be there for live, but we can discuss things here I guess.
BTW, watching y'all talk on TROMcast was more entertaining and educational than any movie or documentary, it made my day 😄
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Next TROM-Cast: Movies. Sat 17th, 19:00 Madrid time.
We will discuss the topic of movies. Anyone can join. It will be live-streamed here tromsite.com/live/ - tomorrow we will schedule it on our Peertube. videos.trom.tf/video-channels/…
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Big thanks to the people who keep on supporting us financially via Patreon, Liberapay, Paypal and other means. We need to pay for our serves and to "buy" some free time for us to work on all of our TROM projects. We have a lot of them as you can see here tromsite.com/tools/ . From books and videos and documentaries, to websites where you can watch thousands of documentaries/movies/courses for free, to a custom Operating System and hundreds of curated trade-free apps, to a trade-free directory or trade-free alternatives to youtube, twitter/facebook, wetransfer, google and its services and a lot more. So please help us if you can!
The more donations we get, the more reliable what we offer becomes and the more relaxed we can be in order to create more stuff. Go here and support if you can tromsite.com/donate/ . Thanks! #tromlive
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1.) yes, trade is main source of the problem. so in my approach to creating a trade free society, im offering free facility for members, so they can either stay or use, there is no limit
2.) yes, trade free, thats why commune housing is free to use, but at the moment only for members due to limited resource
3.) i dont have any connection with forest city, i am the property owner in 1 of the small unit there, im tzm members myself, and trying to contribute what resource i have to offer, so im telling members you now can use my facility. thats is all
4.) property developer do not know i m trying to start a commune housing project there, it is only 1 unit of apartment out of 9999 they have there, they wont bother. but to create abundance and post scarcity, i wanted to collect donation in future, so those member who are not able to get involved but still wanted to, the easiest way is donation, i will keep buying another property and property, snowball the effect from there and hopefully movement will grow bigger
So basically this city is just yet another trade-based city. And what you are saying is that you have a "small unit" there. You mean an apartment? And you want to let others use your apartment trade-free (you don't ask for anything in return)? Am I getting it right?
If so, that's very nice of you, but it means it has nothing to do with that city, since that city is just like many others. It is about providing some trade-free accommodation. And of course, who can come and stay for long on Malaysia? You need a VISA and all that. Seems complicated. Plus trust of course.
We would like to do a TROMcast and discuss about this idea of building communities or a city. Is it feasible? Is it relevant? Would you like to participate?
I see thanks for the explanation. This is more clear to me now. I've heard of many many such initiatives. From Mauritius to Cuba and in-between. There are a lot of people, especially around TVP/TZM who want to provide such free accommodation services. But I haven't heard from any of them for a while now. I do not know how practical this is, but I appreciate the initiative.
We can talk more about such approaches of creating little communities or the idea of a city in tromcast. We have a chat at tromsite.com/chat we can talk more about it there, but for sure we will make a tromcast soon about this topic. So if you can participate that'd be cool.
this is the apartment interior
before renovation this is how it looks like : youtube.com/watch?v=bKMPwVSGrQ…
ok, i will try participate if the time zone permits
bro.. its real
their ecology course here : mp.weixin.qq.com/s/JSnMQfbs50Z…
plant dictionary : mp.weixin.qq.com/s/QBKb7Ij5gTo…
"..Forest City has built 4 sewage treatment plants with a total capacity of approximately 170,400 P.E. After an advanced ecological sewage treatment system and a wetland treatment, the effluent water quality is able to meet CLASS II B standard, which is higher than the ordinary discharge standard in Malaysia. The effluent will then be used for irrigation of roof gardens, vertical greenery, outdoor landscapes, as well as public toilet flushing, etc. Currently, most of the water for irrigation in Forest City comes from reclaimed water. In the future, desalination will also be implemented to enhance the efficiency of water resources utilization...”
source : markets.businessinsider.com/ne…
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This week we will make a TROMcast about MOVIES.
Lets talk about movies. Are they really dumb nowadays? Are they just ads? Are they relevant in any way? Are they just made so that companies make profits?
But also, what are some good movies out there? How could movies look in a saner future? What about educational movies?
Lets chat about that ;)
We invite anyone to participate. Please use this poll to tell us what day/hour suits you best poll.trom.tf/studs.php?poll=nh…
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