Big thanks to the people who keep on supporting us financially via Patreon, Liberapay, Paypal and other means. We need to pay for our serves and to "buy" some free time for us to work on all of our TROM projects. We have a lot of them as you can see here tromsite.com/tools/ . From books and videos and documentaries, to websites where you can watch thousands of documentaries/movies/courses for free, to a custom Operating System and hundreds of curated trade-free apps, to a trade-free directory or trade-free alternatives to youtube, twitter/facebook, wetransfer, google and its services and a lot more. So please help us if you can!
The more donations we get, the more reliable what we offer becomes and the more relaxed we can be in order to create more stuff. Go here and support if you can tromsite.com/donate/ . Thanks! #tromlive
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This week we will make a TROMcast about MOVIES.
Lets talk about movies. Are they really dumb nowadays? Are they just ads? Are they relevant in any way? Are they just made so that companies make profits?
But also, what are some good movies out there? How could movies look in a saner future? What about educational movies?
Lets chat about that ;)
We invite anyone to participate. Please use this poll to tell us what day/hour suits you best poll.trom.tf/studs.php?poll=nhβ¦
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When Facebook proclaims to be a place for people to stay in touch with their friends and families, connect with others and such, it is like a Mall pretending it is not a shopping center, but a place where friends and families can meet and greet. Just because Malls have added some benches, trees, and playgrounds for kids, it does not make them a communal place for people to meet others, relax, and have a fun time. They are still shopping centers and all they want is for you to consume their products. To trade your currency for their stuff.
Similarly, Facebook is a place where you trade your data/attention/currency to them - it is an ad platform - regardless if they added "benches and trees", or messengers, photo albums and a comment section for posts. They still are an ad platform.
Don't be fooled!
Malls are shopping centers, and Facebook is an ad (trade) platform, together with youtube, twitter, tiktok, google search and pretty much all websites nowadays.
So, fuck them. Use tromsite.com/tools/ for your own sanity. #tromlive
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Two more applications added to our trom.tf/ - but both are under "The following may not work properly, or are not fully trade-free:". So please be aware of that. We added Wallabag as bag.trom.tf and Framaforms as forms.trom.tf.
Right now we provide 18 trade-free services! 12 work perfectly fine. 1 is not customized. and 5 are mostly not properly customized/configured or are not very stable. #tromlive
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Tomorrow, a new TROM-Cast live here tromsite.com/live/
We are talking about this new word "deplatforming" and what are the implications of it. How a few companies can mute anyone they want, and what repercussions does it have.
Anyone can participate via chat or video/audio. The info links will be posted on our live-chat a few minutes before or after the live will begin. If you want to follow us directly on Peertube see this link videos.trom.tf/videos/watch/10β¦
See you there! #tromlive
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in reply to Tio • • •Hi Tio, ok, if you wanted to understand the intention of the commune housing project, here it goes
Everyday millions of people wake up and enslaved by the system
Capitalism and exploitation will remain
TZM is advocating basic necessities of life such as water/electricity/shelter/food/etc should be made as fundamental human rights even though all human is not working, there is no one need to be sacrificed nor being exploited by fully embrace/implement today's available automation and technology.
But outdated monetary and capitalism has hindered progress of automation and commodify those basic necessities
Therefore war, poverty, deprivation, economy inefficieny, drudgery workplace for the sake of labor for income continue to exist
It is not about blaming certain human or society is bad, but economy structure is designed similar to monopoly game/musical chair game, victimize player, aka violent structure
Hence the idea of commune housing was born
... show moreCommune housing itself is a project modifying violent structure (on permanent basis) to a more civilized v
Hi Tio, ok, if you wanted to understand the intention of the commune housing project, here it goes
Everyday millions of people wake up and enslaved by the system
Capitalism and exploitation will remain
TZM is advocating basic necessities of life such as water/electricity/shelter/food/etc should be made as fundamental human rights even though all human is not working, there is no one need to be sacrificed nor being exploited by fully embrace/implement today's available automation and technology.
But outdated monetary and capitalism has hindered progress of automation and commodify those basic necessities
Therefore war, poverty, deprivation, economy inefficieny, drudgery workplace for the sake of labor for income continue to exist
It is not about blaming certain human or society is bad, but economy structure is designed similar to monopoly game/musical chair game, victimize player, aka violent structure
Hence the idea of commune housing was born
Commune housing itself is a project modifying violent structure (on permanent basis) to a more civilized version
Free facility is giving members/resident a space/meeting to focus on relevant project/real world solutions
I have been following TZM for more than 10-15 years, im not gonna wait for others to take action
"You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.β Richard Buckminster Fuller"
Moving from primitive (self-based capitalism) to a more civilized/advanced & sharing society
As a transition project, moving towards post scarcity model
The new human rights movement
hope i answered your question
Tio
in reply to ZeitgeistMalaysia • •Thanks for the answer. I am very familiar with all of these. We've been around for 10+ years and I worked with TVP directly for more than 4. There are a few points I'd like to make and questions to ask:
- When I moved away from TVP I did so after writing this book: The Money Game and Beyond tromsite.com/books/#flipbook-d… - I realized one fundamental thing: when TVP/TZM and others talk about the system, capitalism, the monetary system, and so forth, they are all using a lot of words to describe the same simple thing. TRADE. We live in a trade-based society, regardless if you call it capitalism, free market, markets, communism in china or whatever. Therefore money, cryptocurrencies, data trading, attention economy, social credits and so forth, are all very well explained by this trade-based society. I then wrote a huge book explaining all of that:
... show moreThanks for the answer. I am very familiar with all of these. We've been around for 10+ years and I worked with TVP directly for more than 4. There are a few points I'd like to make and questions to ask:
Cheers!
ZeitgeistMalaysia
in reply to Tio • • •1.) yes, trade is main source of the problem. so in my approach to creating a trade free society, im offering free facility for members, so they can either stay or use, there is no limit
2.) yes, trade free, thats why commune housing is free to use, but at the moment only for members due to limited resource
3.) i dont have any connection with forest city, i am the property owner in 1 of the small unit there, im tzm members myself, and trying to contribute what resource i have to offer, so im telling members you now can use my facility. thats is all
4.) property developer do not know i m trying to start a commune housing project there, it is only 1 unit of apartment out of 9999 they have there, they wont bother. but to create abundance and post scarcity, i wanted to collect donation in future, so those member who are not able to get involved but still wanted to, the easiest way is donation, i will keep buying another property and property, snowball the effect from there and hopefully movement will grow bigger
Tio
in reply to ZeitgeistMalaysia • •So basically this city is just yet another trade-based city. And what you are saying is that you have a "small unit" there. You mean an apartment? And you want to let others use your apartment trade-free (you don't ask for anything in return)? Am I getting it right?
If so, that's very nice of you, but it means it has nothing to do with that city, since that city is just like many others. It is about providing some trade-free accommodation. And of course, who can come and stay for long on Malaysia? You need a VISA and all that. Seems complicated. Plus trust of course.
We would like to do a TROMcast and discuss about this idea of building communities or a city. Is it feasible? Is it relevant? Would you like to participate?
ZeitgeistMalaysia
in reply to Tio • • •yes i have a small apartment there, and already paid off the loan, no debt. only member and those who understand the idea behind trade-free allowed to stay, otherwise normal people is not allowed, as they wont appreciate it. but as an apartment owner or if members stay there, they must pay a maintenance fee, which is in RM (ringgit malaysia) approx RM200 plus, and you need to pay your own utilities, electricity and water bill. lets say RM100 plus per month, total about RM300 plus a month & your own food
RM300 is around $US72 dollar & your own food a month maybe RM700, more or less depend how much grocery you are spending. RM700 is around $US169. so total RM1000 (US$242) a month
for your question about VISA, this is the reason why i buy at forest city, it is situated between malaysia (johor) and singapore, it is meant for international community. forest city have resident from 33 nationalities, but at the moment majority is foreigner from china
for visa workaround, lets assume after covid is resolved, you can use tourist visa travel back and forth as many
... show moreyes i have a small apartment there, and already paid off the loan, no debt. only member and those who understand the idea behind trade-free allowed to stay, otherwise normal people is not allowed, as they wont appreciate it. but as an apartment owner or if members stay there, they must pay a maintenance fee, which is in RM (ringgit malaysia) approx RM200 plus, and you need to pay your own utilities, electricity and water bill. lets say RM100 plus per month, total about RM300 plus a month & your own food
RM300 is around $US72 dollar & your own food a month maybe RM700, more or less depend how much grocery you are spending. RM700 is around $US169. so total RM1000 (US$242) a month
for your question about VISA, this is the reason why i buy at forest city, it is situated between malaysia (johor) and singapore, it is meant for international community. forest city have resident from 33 nationalities, but at the moment majority is foreigner from china
for visa workaround, lets assume after covid is resolved, you can use tourist visa travel back and forth as many times as you want between singapore and malaysia.. lol. you can check google map it is only 16km to reach singapore.
im not sure how tromcast work, but idea of building community of city requires a lot of money, i can participate if you give more specific instruction, but keep in mind, at the end of the day, money still talks...
Tio
in reply to ZeitgeistMalaysia • •I see thanks for the explanation. This is more clear to me now. I've heard of many many such initiatives. From Mauritius to Cuba and in-between. There are a lot of people, especially around TVP/TZM who want to provide such free accommodation services. But I haven't heard from any of them for a while now. I do not know how practical this is, but I appreciate the initiative.
We can talk more about such approaches of creating little communities or the idea of a city in tromcast. We have a chat at tromsite.com/chat we can talk more about it there, but for sure we will make a tromcast soon about this topic. So if you can participate that'd be cool.
ZeitgeistMalaysia
in reply to Tio • • •this is the apartment interior
before renovation this is how it looks like : youtube.com/watch?v=bKMPwVSGrQβ¦
ok, i will try participate if the time zone permits
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in reply to Tio • • •bro.. its real
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"..Forest City has built 4 sewage treatment plants with a total capacity of approximately 170,400 P.E. After an advanced ecological sewage treatment system and a wetland treatment, the effluent water quality is able to meet CLASS II B standard, which is higher than the ordinary discharge standard in Malaysia. The effluent will then be used for irrigation of roof gardens, vertical greenery, outdoor landscapes, as well as public toilet flushing, etc. Currently, most of the water for irrigation in Forest City comes from reclaimed water. In the future, desalination will also be implemented to enhance the efficiency of water resources utilization...β
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