Yah there is no purpose in this society other than trading. Ancient practice that has transformed us all into merchants and consumers. Until that is recognized there is no path towards a solution.
The Ancient Practice That Shaped Modern Identity From the earliest days of human civilization, the act of exchange — whether of goods, services, or ideas — has been a cornerstone of societal development. This ancient practice, rooted in barter and trade, has evolved over millennia into the complex global economy we inhabit today. What began as a simple necessity for survival has transformed us all into merchants and consumers, redefining our roles, relationships, and even our sense of self. In tribal societies, trade was often a communal activity, embedded in rituals and social bonds. It wasn’t merely transactional; it was relational. Goods were exchanged not just for utility, but to build alliances, express gratitude, or maintain harmony. Over time, as societies grew and markets emerged, trade became more formalized. The rise of currency, marketplaces, and merchant classes marked a shift — from communal exchange to individual enterprise. Today, this transformation is complete. We live in a world where nearly every aspect of life is touched by... show more
The Ancient Practice That Shaped Modern Identity From the earliest days of human civilization, the act of exchange — whether of goods, services, or ideas — has been a cornerstone of societal development. This ancient practice, rooted in barter and trade, has evolved over millennia into the complex global economy we inhabit today. What began as a simple necessity for survival has transformed us all into merchants and consumers, redefining our roles, relationships, and even our sense of self. In tribal societies, trade was often a communal activity, embedded in rituals and social bonds. It wasn’t merely transactional; it was relational. Goods were exchanged not just for utility, but to build alliances, express gratitude, or maintain harmony. Over time, as societies grew and markets emerged, trade became more formalized. The rise of currency, marketplaces, and merchant classes marked a shift — from communal exchange to individual enterprise. Today, this transformation is complete. We live in a world where nearly every aspect of life is touched by commerce. We are merchants when we sell our labor, our creativity, or our time. We are consumers when we seek comfort, identity, or status through the things we buy. The marketplace is no longer a physical space — it is digital, global, and omnipresent. This shift has profound implications. On one hand, it has enabled unprecedented innovation, connectivity, and prosperity. On the other, it has commodified aspects of life once considered sacred or personal — from education to relationships, even identity itself. The ancient practice of exchange has not only shaped our economies; it has shaped our values. Are we better for it? That remains a question worth exploring. But one thing is certain: the legacy of that ancient practice continues to define who we are — merchants and consumers in a world built on trade.
Extinction Rebellion may have gone quiet, but climate protest will come roaring back | Oliver Haynes - theguardian.com/commentisfree/…
Yes....I noticed that too. You know there were many loud people and projects for the past decade or so. Some protesting, some proposing radical alternatives to this so called "capitalist" society. Meaning this trade-based society. They are all kinda gone now...
I am one of them. Since 2011 I scream and scream and scream. And do all sorts of projects.
But the truth is that we are like trying to grow a crop in the middle of Times Square. There is no fertile soil, only concrete and people trying to stop you doing it.
There is no help for me to create and maintain the so many projects I do. There is no support for the so many good-willing people out there who want to protect nature, do good deeds, amazing projects, open source, and so on. NOTHING.
We have to fend for
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Extinction Rebellion may have gone quiet, but climate protest will come roaring back | Oliver Haynes - theguardian.com/commentisfree/…
Yes....I noticed that too. You know there were many loud people and projects for the past decade or so. Some protesting, some proposing radical alternatives to this so called "capitalist" society. Meaning this trade-based society. They are all kinda gone now...
I am one of them. Since 2011 I scream and scream and scream. And do all sorts of projects.
But the truth is that we are like trying to grow a crop in the middle of Times Square. There is no fertile soil, only concrete and people trying to stop you doing it.
There is no help for me to create and maintain the so many projects I do. There is no support for the so many good-willing people out there who want to protect nature, do good deeds, amazing projects, open source, and so on. NOTHING.
We have to fend for ourselves - to find ways to trade and stay alive, while doing these things. There is no way forward like that.
We are bound to perish.
I keep on surviving, surprisingly enough, with more projects than I started in 2011. But my reach is hundreds of times less than it was in 2011. I have to trade at times to make some money, I have to stress over not having enough to make it, I have to do a ton of work that should be done by 10 people normally.
The financial support is bleeding out, the interest I feel is not even present that much.
It all sounds very pessimistic but it is the truth. However I am still not giving up. I have new ideas and approaches.
And I know there are MANY MANY people out there who still keep the flame of revolting and activism alive, and all they need is a bit of fertile soil to thrive. But to get that fertile soil, the help, is really hard. And perhaps that is where the focus should be.
Maybe TROM will start to focus on that bit...
Will see.
If you are one of us, don't despair. You are for sure not alone. Maybe new projects and forms of activism will arise out of the stagnant frustration and anger that so many have layered within.
A system in which its members cannot even have the time and means to protest or propose/work on alternatives, is an abusive system. It only wants for "it" to survive, as it is the only way for its members to stay afloat. Therefore humans have to trade in the trade system, to survive. That is the forced incentive. Anything else can only temporarily survive.
The trade game has to go.
STEPS:
Provide the basic needs as trade-free: healthcare, education, communication, food, shelter, etc..
Provide a Universal Basic Income to everyone, no strings attached.
This is how we allow people to focus on what they see as important. To have time to get informed and inform others. To get involved, to help, to thrive.
Yeah, no....this is too fucking hot. You can feel a hot breeze of air outside as if the earth turned on the oven.
This is how streets look like in a small town while cloudy:
Imagine that most big cities are way worse and way hotter. Also imagine that instead of cars we had trees. It would make a massive difference. But our society is not built for humans, it is built for cars, stuff to consume, etc..
We know how to deal with the climate change, we know how to design better cities and create a paradise on earth for everyone. But there is no incentive to do so in a society where trade is the main driving force.
Watch this documentary to see how governments and companies go after buying Earth resources from other tribes, in all sorts of terrible ways. From arable land to water. In a crazy race to get enough for their own tribe because of the impacts of climate change that will devastate vast areas on this planet.
This terrible mentality of trying to survive and thrive at the expense of the rest, as if we are not living on the same planet. Same spaceship.
Very telling documentary. Some 10 years in the making.
Watch this documentary to see how governments and companies go after buying Earth resources from other tribes, in all sorts of terrible ways. From arable land to water. In a crazy race to get enough for their own tribe because of the impacts of climate change that will devastate vast areas on this planet.
This terrible mentality of trying to survive and thrive at the expense of the rest, as if we are not living on the same planet. Same spaceship.
Very telling documentary. Some 10 years in the making.
The film follows investigative journalists at The Center for Investigative Reporting as they uncover efforts by foreign actors to control food and water to the detriment of local populations.
Yeah religion is crazy but this is still incredibly sad man, those people didn't deserve to die 😔 As the effects of climate change worsen over time this is gonna affect more and more people's lives, not just because of heat but more frequent natural disasters and stuff like that.....
And speaking of religion, if this was any other place I'm sure it would've been shut off for safety reasons, but humans are stupid 😐
No one forces these idiots to go around in circles. I know it is their environment that makes them so stupid, however it is idiotic when you see such news and pretty much no one criticizing their stupid beliefs....just because we call it "religion". If this was a small group of a few thousand people believing this shit, prob we would call them a cult.
Religion is of course a big problem, but I guess it feels a bit insensitive to talk about dead people like that..... I've heard of real cult stories that happened in Kenya where the followers were convinced to starve themselves to death, a women was explaning how a relative of her fell victim to this cult and it's always heartbreaking to hear these stories..... I could call these people idiots but in the end they were all victims brainwashed into believing these bullshit.
For sure, this is a more wise view and I respect it and I usually have that kind of view as well, but at times I feel like saying it as it is: a bunch of idiots. After a while you get sick of these morons :D
We are so surprised to see Spain struggling with one digit temperatures while poor tribes in the Eastern EU are doing just fine with minus degrees outside. In other words, in Spain you'll freeze inside your home in the "winter" even if outside are no less than 10 degrees and sunny, simply because they do not insulate their houses much. Thus, it is a massive loss of energy (and thus pollution), and a lot of discomfort for people. It is not unusual for people here to stay with their shoes on and their jackets inside the house...
UK is in a similar, or worse situation, and now I'm reading "Failure to insulate UK homes costing thousands of lives a year, says report" theguardian.com/environment/20…
Insane! I bet there are thousands in Spain that also die because of this.
So not only that it is a massive energy loss and pollution as a result from using fossil fuels to create that energ
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We are so surprised to see Spain struggling with one digit temperatures while poor tribes in the Eastern EU are doing just fine with minus degrees outside. In other words, in Spain you'll freeze inside your home in the "winter" even if outside are no less than 10 degrees and sunny, simply because they do not insulate their houses much. Thus, it is a massive loss of energy (and thus pollution), and a lot of discomfort for people. It is not unusual for people here to stay with their shoes on and their jackets inside the house...
UK is in a similar, or worse situation, and now I'm reading "Failure to insulate UK homes costing thousands of lives a year, says report" theguardian.com/environment/20…
Insane! I bet there are thousands in Spain that also die because of this.
So not only that it is a massive energy loss and pollution as a result from using fossil fuels to create that energy; not only it is a lot of discomfort for people. But some are dying as a result, possibly thousands....
And all they have to do is to INSULATE THE HOUSES. Easy!
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in reply to Tio • •From the earliest days of human civilization, the act of exchange — whether of goods, services, or ideas — has been a cornerstone of societal development. This ancient practice, rooted in barter and trade, has evolved over millennia into the complex global economy we inhabit today. What began as a simple necessity for survival has transformed us all into merchants and consumers, redefining our roles, relationships, and even our sense of self.
In tribal societies, trade was often a communal activity, embedded in rituals and social bonds. It wasn’t merely transactional; it was relational. Goods were exchanged not just for utility, but to build alliances, express gratitude, or maintain harmony. Over time, as societies grew and markets emerged, trade became more formalized. The rise of currency, marketplaces, and merchant classes marked a shift — from communal exchange to individual enterprise.
Today, this transformation is complete. We live in a world where nearly every aspect of life is touched by... show more
From the earliest days of human civilization, the act of exchange — whether of goods, services, or ideas — has been a cornerstone of societal development. This ancient practice, rooted in barter and trade, has evolved over millennia into the complex global economy we inhabit today. What began as a simple necessity for survival has transformed us all into merchants and consumers, redefining our roles, relationships, and even our sense of self.
In tribal societies, trade was often a communal activity, embedded in rituals and social bonds. It wasn’t merely transactional; it was relational. Goods were exchanged not just for utility, but to build alliances, express gratitude, or maintain harmony. Over time, as societies grew and markets emerged, trade became more formalized. The rise of currency, marketplaces, and merchant classes marked a shift — from communal exchange to individual enterprise.
Today, this transformation is complete. We live in a world where nearly every aspect of life is touched by commerce. We are merchants when we sell our labor, our creativity, or our time. We are consumers when we seek comfort, identity, or status through the things we buy. The marketplace is no longer a physical space — it is digital, global, and omnipresent.
This shift has profound implications. On one hand, it has enabled unprecedented innovation, connectivity, and prosperity. On the other, it has commodified aspects of life once considered sacred or personal — from education to relationships, even identity itself. The ancient practice of exchange has not only shaped our economies; it has shaped our values.
Are we better for it? That remains a question worth exploring. But one thing is certain: the legacy of that ancient practice continues to define who we are — merchants and consumers in a world built on trade.