Although I don't use Plasma, I use XFCE with TROMjaro, I congratulate KDE for this release and the work they've done over the years. XFCE, KDE, and the like, are not competitors, but diversity in choices. That's how we should operate as a society, do not compete, but collaborate and create diversity. So I like to use XFCE, but others prefer KDE, and some others Gnome, and so forth. Nice! We are all happy! #opensource #foss #kde #plasma #linux
Plasma 6.0 has been released. Check out the new overview, improved colour management, a cleaner theme, more effects, better overall performance, and much more.
KDE is an open community of friendly people who want to create a world in which everyone has control over their digital life and enjoys freedom and privacy.
100% agree, brother! I personally like #Plasma the most out of all DE's, but as you said, it is just a matter of choice, but I actually embrace that all the projects may provide something unique and pleasing to everyone and that should not be a matter for the competition at all.
I also admire #KDE as a community of Humans with a pure drive to deliver not only completely free desktop environment, but a huge pack of outstanding #free-software (which is a #KDEGear and a part of that #MegaRelease6), including #Krita, #kdenlive, #Gwenview and many many others.. And all of that is completely free to use, awesomeness ☺️
If, whoever is reading this, you are already using #kde-software or just share the cause, you may consider helping the community by becoming a member with a donation or, if you like, just join and contribute to the software, report bugs, translate documentation and many more!
@esh ...after over 3 decades of psychological stress from broken and inflexible 🪟s, we switched last year to #linux on all our machines, pcs, laptops and servers. And since then we came across the #kde #plasma experience and still ask how we didn't do it sooner! Definitely 👍 to the KDE Plasma team for such wonderful and beautifully constructed OS environment!
Btw, guys are throwing parties all around the world to celebrate 🥳 A lot of contributors are actually from Spain, so there's a Barcelona gig as well 😜 Stop by if you want to meet some decent Humans 😌
We know each other and we are like brothers :). Thanks for defending me, in a way, but just so you know @Roma and I are very good friends. And to be honest I would not be offended at all if anyone would call me a she or whatever. In the end we are all humans and that's what it matters.
I've actually never heard of TROM-Jaro, but it looks fairly interesting! Particularly the bit about automatic backups, which gives me #opensuse #tumbleweed vibes
Well in fact TROMjaro is a distro I started and currently maintain together with a few friends like @Roma and @Rokosun - it is based on Manjaro but has many tweaks added to it to make it stable, reliable, and easier to use. Like we enable the chaotic aur + flatpaks from the get-go. That together with Manjaro's repos and AUR, means that you get access to all of the Linux applications from one single place.
We have our own Layout and Theme switcher apps, and a lot more. See the website tromjaro.com/
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Non taken! Was not my intention of course to insult you or anyone, rather than show an agreement with my good friend. I am actually very happy to see that women are also using #Linux / #foss ☺️
The competition to FLOSS desktop projects will always be proprietary desktop providers. The creators of Windows and macOS, who seek to abuse users, lock them inside walled gardens and pollute their environment with forced hardware upgrades and deliberately faulty and inefficient software.
Even as a long time Plasma user, I cannot but admire #XFCE and its developers who strive to pack all those features into the lightest desktop possible.
Thank God that companies are now starting to become more environmentally conscious!
100% recycled paper. Tell me that does not give you more confidence that we are going to, finally, make this world a better place.
So what that inside of it are 2 plastic bags full of chips!? I mean, they are at least trying!
I find it so hard to take this idiocracy of a society seriously. I think it is me who is in the wrong here, trying to think that this society can become sane. But perhaps I should take it for what it is: a total joke.
haha, i thought the same when I have bought this chips in Spain :) I was actually angry at them, it feels like they tricked me, and not even 1 plastic bag, 2 of them :)
Here's an example of what I said about the American way of motorhoming.
At times I search for videos about motorhomes, since we want to move into one, because I want to know about how much solar we may need, how to do some stuff, maintain, etc.. And I search in English despite being in Europe, since that's the relevant language I know despite almost no EU country officially speaking English. Anyway, so I want to see info about motorhomes in Europe. But searching in English it will find mostly videos from USA about motorhomes....and that's a different world...
This video I saw recently - Full-Time Freedom in a MINI Class A RV – A/C AND HEAT with 2000W of SOLAR! youtu.be/8YSqwLK8fsY
This is a MINI motorhome hahaha. Mini in American terms means 8 meters long. We were looking at buying a medium size
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Here's an example of what I said about the American way of motorhoming.
At times I search for videos about motorhomes, since we want to move into one, because I want to know about how much solar we may need, how to do some stuff, maintain, etc.. And I search in English despite being in Europe, since that's the relevant language I know despite almost no EU country officially speaking English. Anyway, so I want to see info about motorhomes in Europe. But searching in English it will find mostly videos from USA about motorhomes....and that's a different world...
This video I saw recently - Full-Time Freedom in a MINI Class A RV – A/C AND HEAT with 2000W of SOLAR! youtu.be/8YSqwLK8fsY
This is a MINI motorhome hahaha. Mini in American terms means 8 meters long. We were looking at buying a medium size motorhome in EU no longer than 6 meters. 8 meters is HUGE. And this one even has "expandable" walls, or whatever you call those:
On top of this it has 2000W of solar panels....my lord! I was thinking we may need a max of 400W for 2 people, and this woman has 2000 for 1 person. And she has around 6000Wh of battery storage, that's some 20 times more than what we probably would need...
She was even like "it is a baby motorhome...you can even park it in normal parking spots"....I guess so in America...
And at the end of the video she's like "oh yeah and I'm also towing a 4x4 pickup truck"...
hahahaha
My god...if that's living "small", then....
She even has a HUGE tent that she puts up while camping haha.
If you put that setup, a 8m motorhome plus towing that huge car in Europe, on any road, you'll probably get stuck. Americans live the big life. Big cars, big motorhomes, big fridges and homes. Big people. Statistically it's true.
Even if I had a ton of money I would never go for this lifestyle. We love a small motorhome, a few things, and the ability to feel free-er.
The consumerism world creates wasteful people who are too attached to their stuff. Consume too much, waste too much. Enjoy too little I feel like...
Look at this monstrosity youtu.be/8YSqwLK8fsY - and I'll leave you with this...insane...
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This project argues that trade is the origin of most problems: from climate change to slavery, waste and pollution, corruption, crime, you name it. And if we understand the cause, we have a chance ...
I like the focus on "the system" rather than the "AI". The "AI" is not really the problem here, the system is, where it incentivizes the use of AI for bad purposes. From big companies who want to harvest people's data and show ads to them, or sell their "AI" as a service, and thus be incentivized to make this tool for profit motives, to individuals who are using these tools to create more shitty content online in order to get more clicks, more views, more money.
In the end it is what we talked about for years now: the problem with trade. We live in a trade-based society where everyone is forced and incentivized to trade. So instead of making a tool like AI for detecting skin cancer, or creating videos more easily, and overall to help the society, people, and be useful, humans make these tools in order to trade
I like the focus on "the system" rather than the "AI". The "AI" is not really the problem here, the system is, where it incentivizes the use of AI for bad purposes. From big companies who want to harvest people's data and show ads to them, or sell their "AI" as a service, and thus be incentivized to make this tool for profit motives, to individuals who are using these tools to create more shitty content online in order to get more clicks, more views, more money.
In the end it is what we talked about for years now: the problem with trade. We live in a trade-based society where everyone is forced and incentivized to trade. So instead of making a tool like AI for detecting skin cancer, or creating videos more easily, and overall to help the society, people, and be useful, humans make these tools in order to trade them: for data, attention, or currency.
We need to talk about that! We need to talk about our society more than we need to talk about AI.
I’m sorry for the YouTube link but watch this, write down every word that comes out of @Mer__edith’s mouth, frame it, hang it on your wall, and read it every morning until it really sinks in.
In the final episode of the AI series with Maria Ressa, we meet two women on the front lines of the battle to make artificial intelligence accountable.Camill...
I see that now the Friendica YNH package has finally added the Daemon feature I was waiting for for so long - github.com/YunoHost-Apps/frien… - thanks to OniriCorpe for the amazing work! These days I will give it a shot and see how it goes. I will have to redo our Friendica themes customizations and such, but that was a must needed work since the themes I created were a mess in terms of the CSS code, and Friendica seems to have improved their default themes a lot.
Anyway, these days is about some WebApe work, TROMjaro new ISO release today, Friendica update. Continuing my work.
100% yes! I will for sure. Sorry I said I will but then I got busy with other work. And yeah our only "branding" is the replacement of the Friendica logo with ours, the rest is just about the themes. So yeah will do! I need to remember where I have to do that :)
If by the end of this year we cannot get at least 70-80% of the funding we need for TROM, see https://www.tromsite.com/donate/, then we will have to shut down and limit many of our projects. This is unfortunate but there is no way we can support so many projects, let alone grow them.
If we cannot find 200 people to donate 5 Euros a month to support the many projects that we have, then perhaps it is a sign that some things have to end. In particular TROM.tf that provides a video platform with unlimited uploads for everyone, a file hosting with 10GB of diskspace for anyone who joins, a social network and a chat platform opened for the public. Plus more such services. They will have to close, or solely be available for us at TROM to host our stuff.
I will give you more details these following weeks about what projects will be shut down in case our campaign fails by the end of this year.
There will probably be a video series that I will start for TROM in a few weeks time, but unless I find enough support to help me battle this trade-based society, then I cannot do much. TROM.tf costs a lot of money and it will cost us more and more, the more people use it. We need more diskspace, more CPU power, and such.
It is unfortunate but I need to be realistic and deal with these things in a graceful way. If I am to remove many of our projects, they will be done in a smooth way, landing the plane rather than crashing it. So do not worry. You'll have enough time to move to different platforms and save your files.
In the meantime I will work this year to make these projects better, keep them updated, release new things. I will give them my best shot to hopefully get enough financial support in order to continue with them.
10 months to decide. 10 months to get the needed financial support. 10 months to try once more. :)
Passed the bloody stupid written driving exam haha!! After 2 months of torture. No more! Fuck it. I still have to pass the driving practice test but that is in like 3 months from now...takes so long. But am not that concerned about that one. Anyway, I will have time these next months to perhaps start a new video series for TROM, let's see!
TROMnews News is a bit overwhelming now, and I am going to try and fix it these days. I will try to add the news into categories such as health, tech, science, environment, so it is easier for people to follow the news. Now we get tens of news a day....overwhelming.
Monday I have the written driving exam, so today and tomorrow I am preparing more. I fuck hope I'll pass it. I learned a lot and out of the online tests they gave me I have passed more than 90% of them. Thousands and thousands of questions....so let's see. Considering the deplorable state of the english translation for these tests, I may fail it....
I want to start a video series but first I need to see how's with the riving exam on Monday....
No surprise that Alexei Navalny died....unfortunately the situation in this world is not like a movie, where the bad guys are defeated. It seems to me like we've built a society that encourages villains and give little chances to anyone who wants to do anything in a more just way in this society.
Navalny had a huge following and was able to pierce with his campaign through the thick and foggy blanket of propaganda that the Russian government is so good and persistent at. And Navalny may not have been a saint or may not have changed much in Russia, who knows considering the level of corruption that infected all governments around the world, but for sure he was attacked, silenced, and eventually killed (directly or indirectly through a lot of abuse).
Many journalists have been imprisoned or even killed, and now we can see these publicly and so clearly. It is naive to think that pretty much anyone who challenges Putin drops dead or in prison and this has nothing to do with Putin. But probably these wannabe dictators do not even mind to cover up anything anymore.
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No surprise that Alexei Navalny died....unfortunately the situation in this world is not like a movie, where the bad guys are defeated. It seems to me like we've built a society that encourages villains and give little chances to anyone who wants to do anything in a more just way in this society.
Navalny had a huge following and was able to pierce with his campaign through the thick and foggy blanket of propaganda that the Russian government is so good and persistent at. And Navalny may not have been a saint or may not have changed much in Russia, who knows considering the level of corruption that infected all governments around the world, but for sure he was attacked, silenced, and eventually killed (directly or indirectly through a lot of abuse).
Many journalists have been imprisoned or even killed, and now we can see these publicly and so clearly. It is naive to think that pretty much anyone who challenges Putin drops dead or in prison and this has nothing to do with Putin. But probably these wannabe dictators do not even mind to cover up anything anymore.
We are noticing the modern public beheading of those who challenge the status quo. But these modern dictators do not have yet the courage to admit that they did it. They only make it very obvious that they did.
Russia seems to have become an authoritarian regime, the old school one. And this is increasingly concerning. Silencing the protesters, killing the political opponents, and infecting the media with terrible propaganda.
"make no mistake" (to quote the chief of USA), the other tribes are flavors of the same medicine. USA, EU, and the rest, are abusive in their own way, and have killed, and still killing, many innocent people. Russia is just worse. So don't let the degree of "doing bad things" take away from the fact that the other tribes are also abusive. USA may not kill the political opponents, but it is damn good at giving no chance to any radical change in the good direction of their tribe.
Anyway.... it is a sad and scary world. Humans, what a deplorable species.
I am making the documentary about Navalny freely available on our Peertube videos.trom.tf/w/b17jsjV11Khxv… and will be featured on the homepage. See how obvious it is that the guy was targeted and almost killed not long ago. Terrible.
Are we ever going to be an "intelligent human species", floating in space on a marvelous ball of wonders that we can take care of? Exploring the in and outs of it? Or are we going to continue as tribalistic and primitive creatures, exploiting and killing?....
The film tells about the events related to the poisoning of Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny and the subsequent investigation into the poisoning. On 20 August 2020, Navalny was poisoned with a Novichok nerve agent,[6] falling sick during a flight from Tomsk to Moscow, and was hospitalized in serious condition. Navalny was taken to a hospital in Omsk after an emergency landing there, and put in a coma. Two days later, he was evacuated to the Charité hospital in Berlin, Germany. The use of the nerve agent was confirmed by five Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) certified laboratories. Navalny blamed Russian president Vladimir Putin for his poisoning, while the Kremlin has repeatedly denied involvement.
I would love to share the category "software & hardware" for todays #ILoveFreeSoftware day: directory.trade-free.org/categ… - you can find hundreds of trade-free applications that educate, teach, inspire or let you be creative. You can share your thoughts, your opinions and ideas. You can help others, improve things and share your contributions with others. Let this directory be something valuable to our society. Something that helps other people and people can be inspired from. Thanks to all the volunteers who create these wonderful tools and share them for free! #trade-free #tfd #tradefreedirectory
Friendica (TROM Social) upgrade failed. In truth it went well, but there are a lot of settings and tweaks we need to do, so I had to postpone it for now and so I restored it...
Funny how whenever I try to watch some videos about motorhomes (useful ones about how to do this or that, or the other), and I search in English, I get the american taste of the motorhomes. Huge, massive, immense, power hungry hahaha. Like...here in Europe you can't even drive those, you'll get stuck.
A big motorhome here (over 7 meters) apparently is a small one in USA. :))
So no, I do not think I need 1000W of solar panels....or an 8 meter motorhome, or a full size fridge and a trailer for my motorbike :D.
Funny to see these differences. In America people have massive houses, cars, fridges. I think that's a lot of waste. I hate having stuff. I want us to have a very small motorhome, no bigger than 6 meters, a small fridge, some 300W solar panels, and a few things. Easier to drive, maintain, and it forces you to have less shit.
Let's see if we can buy a motorhome by the end of this year. It is going to be challenging money wise. I may try to get a job if I can, at least in the season cleaning houses and all that. Of course I'd love to focus on TROM, to do
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Funny how whenever I try to watch some videos about motorhomes (useful ones about how to do this or that, or the other), and I search in English, I get the american taste of the motorhomes. Huge, massive, immense, power hungry hahaha. Like...here in Europe you can't even drive those, you'll get stuck.
A big motorhome here (over 7 meters) apparently is a small one in USA. :))
So no, I do not think I need 1000W of solar panels....or an 8 meter motorhome, or a full size fridge and a trailer for my motorbike :D.
Funny to see these differences. In America people have massive houses, cars, fridges. I think that's a lot of waste. I hate having stuff. I want us to have a very small motorhome, no bigger than 6 meters, a small fridge, some 300W solar panels, and a few things. Easier to drive, maintain, and it forces you to have less shit.
Let's see if we can buy a motorhome by the end of this year. It is going to be challenging money wise. I may try to get a job if I can, at least in the season cleaning houses and all that. Of course I'd love to focus on TROM, to do more stuff, more projects, etc., but I cannot. If there were 200 people donating 5 Euros a month for our 200 for TROM campaign tromsite.com/donate/ then it would be enough and I would not have to trade myself for money.
In any case this month I need to focus a bit on WebApe and a few things here and there for TROM, then I plan to start a video series for TROM or personal project. But I need to figure out how to make some money in case I really cannot get enough support for TROM by the end of this year. Maybe I can grow something with a new video series and that in turn can get TROM more supporters.
Telemarketers - really good documentary. videoneat.com/documentaries/26… - and such a crazy ride. Another example of how this trade-system makes us all scumbags.
Telemarketers is an American true crime documentary series directed and produced by Adam Bhala Lough and Sam Lipman-Stern. It follows two office workers who stumble upon the truth of their work at a telemarketing center and are determined to expose the industry.
For the first time since 2014 we are able to provide access to our own RSS Feeds for TROMnews, for those who want to keep in touch with what we curate via TROMnews, but want to do so via their RSS readers. See https://tromnews.com/about/
The plugin that we've used for TROMnews for the past many years stopped working so we had to find a new one. When that happened I was sure I will have to let go of this website, simply because I need to focus on other things, especially personal stuff. If I were to get at least half the financial support that we need for TROM, then I could focus on these projects more.
But anyway, after talking to Sasha I realized that the website is indeed important, despite the fact that I am sure not many are using it. We will talk more about that. But first:
TROMnews is more work than you may think.
The idea is to pull news/videos/photos/etc from many online sources and coalesce them all into a website that makes sense. But choosing the sources, finding and RSS feed for them, and all that, is not as easy. Plus, some do not have an RSS feed so I have to use other services to create it on the fly. Also, the way I pull the RSS feeds is not arbitrary. For example I cannot grab all of the videos from a Youtube channel since that would include the absolutely retarded "shorts", so I have to tell the RSS to only pull the videos that are at least 2 minutes long. And so forth....
I ended up with over 200 sources: from websites to Youtube, from subReddits to playlists. I want to make sure we pull a featured image for each (or most posts), and to not overwhelm everyone with whatever I pull. Like I choose to pull from the subReddit "Sky Porn" only the images that have over X amount of votes. This way we make sure that add only a few a week, but the good ones. The amount of X in this case depends from subReddit to subReddit - I test these to see what's the best value.
Now you get 200 feeds that each can pull several items every hour or so. A server may struggle with so much stuff. And so the old plugin disabled many feeds daily, and I had to reactivate them to make them update...one by one, manually.
On top of all of this, I had filters for many of these feeds as to what posts can pull or exclude, based on keywords. Just to make it more relevant.
I use TROMnews daily, and so are a few friends. But I bet no one else uses it.
I want to stay in touch with what is happening in the world, but not the world of politics (the nonsense world), I want to know about science, tech, and the natural world mostly. I can so that via an RSS reader on my local machine, but my goal with TROMnews was always to provide a tool for others to stay informed and sane.
I started this project exactly 10 years ago. Because I feared that if people are idiots and feed their brains with bullshit then we have 0 chances to ever change anything in this world. Humans live inside of their brains, and if what's inside is bullshit, then they are bullshitters and we live in different worlds altogether, despite being on the same planet, inside the same reality. How can we build the future together?
If some think that gods made them, others that money is real, or that climate change is an invention, then we are fucked. And such a website makes it easy to keep your brain sane.
For me no other website is enough to use it as my news source. From BBC to PBS, or Scientific American, and so forth, they are plagued by politics and promotional articles. It is a mess.
Anyway, I spent many years trying to find the best sources, and subcategories on some good news websites that were still relevant, and I wanted them all in one place. This is why I use TROMnews. It is my main, and many times only, source of brain-food.
10 years ago when I released it I had some big hopes for it, because people were still able to choose stuff for themselves. Like they were intentionally visiting websites. Nowadays the vast majority of people are on maximum 5 platforms (Twitter, Facebook, TikTok, Youtube, or Instagram). And they are all fed whatever these companies want.
A vomit of ads and retarded content. And people stay, and eat. Scroll through an endless stream of whatever they are fed with.
Sick.
So I know that I cannot make people use TROMnews. And I do not care anymore. I and a few friends use it. Plus it is a very interesting website. That's enough for me.
The new website needs more work, but it is a bit more "interesting" in my view.
Before the website was simply displaying the same kind of cards for all categories and that's all. A bit boring. Even I was not that motivated to read the news - too many of the same cards, too many news. Now the homepage looks like a news website, highlighting every category.
We even have a Recommended Documentary section that automatically pulls from VideoNeat. :)
Every page is a bit more unique to emphasize whatever category is showcasing. Here's a cool photo I just found on TROMnews:
Freaking spider! :) - that's what I love about TROMnews - it is a bundle of interesting stuff, ranging from important news, to wonderful photos or super interesting videos. It is my place, and I am not giving up on it :P.
The advantage now is that I can have a lot more control over the individual items. I can probably add a proper search and even allow others to subscribe to our own feed. So that you can subscribe to our TROMnews NEWS. How cool....
I still need to add the Dark mode and tweak it for mobile screens, but also monitor it to make sure it all works well. I came across a bunch of issues with the auto-updating of sources so let's see if it is able to keep up with updating from over 200 rss feeds.
I also lack the ability to filter the feeds based on keywords, but I can live with that... What I'd like is the ability to showcase from where an item is. Like who posted this or that, as it was before. I can only do that if I buy the pro-bro version... So if I get enough financial support for TROM I will make TROMnews a bit better.
Oh, when I was searching for a replacement WordPress plugin for TROMnews I came across many RSS Aggregators. And all, without exception form my findings, are geared towards making more money. Of course.... Who is using them like I do, to pull science/tech/interesting news for all to see? No ads, no bs...
But I was aware of this, it was always the case. People use these plugins to pull stuff from other websites into their own, to then inject ads and make money. In turn destroying the internet, which has become a garbage bin made of vomited and re-vomited content. And now it is getting easier:
The same plugin that I use, has a "pro" version that can integrate these "chat bots" to not only import the full content form other websites, but automatically rewrite it so that search engines cannot detect it as being a duplicate.
Welcome to the Internet 3.0. The complete fuckery, a tsunami of nonsense.
TROMnews is a little place of sane stuff. I hope some people appreciate it.
Roma
in reply to Tio • •100% agree, brother! I personally like #Plasma the most out of all DE's, but as you said, it is just a matter of choice, but I actually embrace that all the projects may provide something unique and pleasing to everyone and that should not be a matter for the competition at all.
I also admire #KDE as a community of Humans with a pure drive to deliver not only completely free desktop environment, but a huge pack of outstanding #free-software (which is a #KDEGear and a part of that #MegaRelease6), including #Krita, #kdenlive, #Gwenview and many many others.. And all of that is completely free to use, awesomeness ☺️
If, whoever is reading this, you are already using #kde-software or just share the cause, you may consider helping the community by becoming a member with a donation or, if you like, just join and contribute to the software, report bugs, translate documentation and many more!
Kudos to the #KDE Team! 😎
#plasma6
#kdecommunity
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in reply to Tio • • •I've actually never heard of TROM-Jaro, but it looks fairly interesting! Particularly the bit about automatic backups, which gives me #opensuse #tumbleweed vibes
What's it like to use?
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in reply to Alex • •Well in fact TROMjaro is a distro I started and currently maintain together with a few friends like @Roma and @Rokosun - it is based on Manjaro but has many tweaks added to it to make it stable, reliable, and easier to use. Like we enable the chaotic aur + flatpaks from the get-go. That together with Manjaro's repos and AUR, means that you get access to all of the Linux applications from one single place.
We have our own Layout and Theme switcher apps, and a lot more. See the website tromjaro.com/
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The competition to FLOSS desktop projects will always be proprietary desktop providers. The creators of Windows and macOS, who seek to abuse users, lock them inside walled gardens and pollute their environment with forced hardware upgrades and deliberately faulty and inefficient software.
Even as a long time Plasma user, I cannot but admire #XFCE and its developers who strive to pack all those features into the lightest desktop possible.
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