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A bunch of atoms that are curious about the world, but furious about the society. We should help all humans to have a decent life without any strings attached, so that we can understand us, the atoms, and the rest of the universe. And create a smarter and saner society.

Since 2005 I make documentaries, write books, and enable many trade-free platforms for everyone.

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Thursday, May 21, 2026, 10:54 AM

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Thursday, May 21, 2026, 10:54 AM

Ok. Here are the issues:

Google is an Ad Company. So their incentive will always be to serve you ads, collect data. You are their customer. They do not simply make these tools to help you, and make it easier and more reliable to search for stuff. Ask yourself how will Google, and others, make money off of these "AI" tools now? It will be even more deceiving and sneaky.
In a sane society (not trade-based) these tools would be tested a lot. For accuracy, for what the outcome can be if billions of people use them, etc.. Did Google do that? I doubt.
If Google removes the search results and replaces it all with "AI" summaries and explanations, two things happen: Complete reliance on the biggest Ad Company for answering your search queries. And second, people will further drift apart from understanding that trust was a key factor in knowing if a source is valid or not. Like where is the info coming from. Now it will simply come from the AI God. Blackhole.

In theory to have access to a faster and more reliable way of finding informati

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Ok. Here are the issues:

Google is an Ad Company. So their incentive will always be to serve you ads, collect data. You are their customer. They do not simply make these tools to help you, and make it easier and more reliable to search for stuff. Ask yourself how will Google, and others, make money off of these "AI" tools now? It will be even more deceiving and sneaky.
In a sane society (not trade-based) these tools would be tested a lot. For accuracy, for what the outcome can be if billions of people use them, etc.. Did Google do that? I doubt.
If Google removes the search results and replaces it all with "AI" summaries and explanations, two things happen: Complete reliance on the biggest Ad Company for answering your search queries. And second, people will further drift apart from understanding that trust was a key factor in knowing if a source is valid or not. Like where is the info coming from. Now it will simply come from the AI God. Blackhole.

In theory to have access to a faster and more reliable way of finding information is a must in a world that is saturated with information. BUT the way it is done now it will make rich people richer, and the consumers more "consuming".

It is simply a normal evolution of a trade-based society. As it is in the offline, it is in the online too.

Same society, same shit.

How to change? Understand where the problem comes from in the first place. --->>> tromsite.com/trombooks/#flipbo…

#TradeRuinsEverything #capitalism #ai #ArtificialInelligence #money #trade #tradebasedsociety #capitalism #google #searchengine

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Wow some terrible reporting about Google's latest horrible ideas about how to distort information access in the name of "convenience" (or something):
techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/goog…
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Google Search as you know it is over | TechCrunch
Google is transforming Search from a list of links into an AI-powered experience filled with conversational answers, autonomous agents, and interactive interfaces — a shift that could further reduce traffic to publishers across the web.
^{Sarah Perez (TechCrunch)}

#Capitalism #AI #money #Google #trade #searchengine #TradeRuinsEverything #tradebasedsociety #ArtificialInelligence

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in reply to Tio Friday, May 22, 2026, 9:23 AM

BTW, I don't think Google is going to completely ditch their search results page, because the TechCrunch article said it like this:

> Instead of returning a simple list of links, Google Search will drop users into AI-powered interactive experiences at times.

I don't think "at times" at the end here was an accident. It is still very bad that Google is doing this, but I feel like if they removed the search results page entirely then there would be a big backlash.

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in reply to Rokosun Friday, May 22, 2026, 9:26 AM

What Google is trying to do now is to slowly get people accustomed to the "AI-powered interactive experience" and perhaps sometime in the future they would make it the default, reminds me of the boiling frog.....

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in reply to Rokosun Friday, May 22, 2026, 9:27 AM

They may not do it now, but may do it eventually. Plus if they push that interactive summary then most people will use that, just as today they use those simple summaries. So in a sense making the search results irrelevant.

But thank you for pointing that out.

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in reply to Tio Friday, May 22, 2026, 9:28 AM

Yes that's what I said in my next comment - fosstodon.org/@futureisfoss/11…

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What Google is trying to do now is to slowly get people accustomed to the "AI-powered interactive experience" and perhaps sometime in the future they would make it the default, reminds me of the boiling frog.....

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Saturday, March 21, 2026, 12:13 PM

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Saturday, March 21, 2026, 12:13 PM

How they make it hard to fix this heater - videos.trom.tf/w/krjeSgmcz3HD6…

These motherfuckers put some weird screws on this electrical heater so you cannot open it unless you have a very specific screw driver. Absolutely criminal behavior. But I understand it. You have to trade in this world in order to survive and thrive, and so these tactics can create advantages for you: the heater breaks, people buy a new one. Done. More profit.

If we can't change the incentive we cannot change these behaviors.

#plannedobselecence #assholedesign #enshifification #trade #TradeRuinsEverything #capitalism

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in reply to Tio Saturday, March 21, 2026, 3:14 PM

yeah, I had similar issue last week, trying to open a laptop, also had to buy overpriced screwdriver just to be able to do it.
Exactly it should be illegal to put such screwheads.

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@tio@videos.trom.tf torx, pentalobe and etc screwing us as usual

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Sunday, February 1, 2026, 12:23 AM

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I am extremely proud of these books that I wrote (all are trade-free of course):

Language tromsite.com/trombooks/#flipbo…

Some 600 pages. I put so much effort into this wow....and the design, was really difficult to design a book about language. The subject was super complex but I am so so happy with how it ended up.

The Money Game and Beyond tromsite.com/trombooks/#flipbo…

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I am extremely proud of these books that I wrote (all are trade-free of course):

Language tromsite.com/trombooks/#flipbo…

Some 600 pages. I put so much effort into this wow....and the design, was really difficult to design a book about language. The subject was super complex but I am so so happy with how it ended up.

The Money Game and Beyond tromsite.com/trombooks/#flipbo…

370 pages of understanding in detail how money came to be. I looked at so many isms that tried to organize our society. This was the bedrock of my understanding of our society.

The Origin of Most Problems tromsite.com/trombooks/#flipbo…

Over a THOUSAND pages long. Comic-book style design with superheroes and characters. By far the most difficult book I ever wrote or ever write probably. This made me have a complete understanding of what this global society is made of. I even created a mega search engine to showcase how a few companies own most stuff - unfortunately I had to discontinue it since it was impossible to update....but yah this book is the achievement of my life :D

The Evolution of Purpose and the Purpose of Evolution tromsite.com/trombooks/#flipbo…

This one is a unique book in terms of the subject. Also smaller than the rest around 70 pages. The title is the core of the book and the design was also difficult and unique.

Human Machine tromsite.com/trombooks/#flipbo…

Some 300 pages and still relevant today. I looked at how the machines humans invented stack against the human machine itself. Difficult book.

Earth tromsite.com/trombooks/#flipbo…

Some 200 pages of pure joy. This one I really loved writing and designing.

I wrote more see here - tromsite.com/trombooks/ and I would love to write more, even if I am sure today is nearly impossible to make anyone read them. People have no patience plus they use these tiny screens (phones) so reading them in this digital format heavily reliant on a landscape design....is a no no for most.

Sad. But maybe I will publish my next content in the same format if I won't be comfortable with making videos.

Anyway, thank you past me for spending so many years creating these. They are really valuable books and they completely changed the way I see the world.

#book #books #trom #tromsite #capitalism #communism #anarchy #money #trade #earth #nature #reading #evolution #lanuage

#Capitalism #book #money #nature #Books #Communism #reading #trom #tromsite #Evolution #trade #earth #anarchy #lanuage

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in reply to Tio Sunday, February 1, 2026, 5:10 AM

nice! where to read?

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in reply to unmittelbar Sunday, February 1, 2026, 10:17 AM

I posted the links to every book in the post. Click and read ;)

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in reply to Tio Sunday, February 1, 2026, 12:20 PM

How much compact thought you express!

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in reply to Tio Sunday, February 1, 2026, 7:35 PM from Fedilab

I have read "The Origin of most problems" book, and have read most of "The Money game and beyond" book but I unfortunately didn't finish it. Now I'm not much of a reader or anything, but both of those books were really fucking impressive and I remember feeling such joy and excitement reading those. I also read the "The ugliness of beauty" book which was a shorter one. I can only imagine the amount of effort you must've put into creating these books man, you not only had to research about these topics and write the books but you also designed them in such a beautiful manner. That is genuinely an achievement and something to be proud of 🙂

And personally I think perhaps I should start reading more books and such, there are some problems like my eye strain issues and such which hold me back but I realize that getting into a habit of reading will do me good long term.

And about the device.... I read these on an old tablet device that I had with a 10 inch 720p

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in reply to Rokosun Sunday, February 1, 2026, 9:40 PM

Thank you so much man! Means a lot!

I would like to know what other format than video would be better suited for new TROM content? I understand that these books may be hard to read unless you do it on a laptop of decent screen. But on the other hand these books allow me to fully express myself via the design.

So tricky...

But if you have ideas let me know.

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in reply to Tio Monday, February 2, 2026, 8:23 AM from Fedilab

Making video content would be an obvious choice these days but I understand it can be a lot of work. A middle ground between the two might be Audio books or a podcast style format, however this can be limiting if you wanna include some visuals. I think technically it's possible to include some attachments along with your audio but if your content is predominantly visual then yeah this might not be the best option.

BTW, I will also say that one other advantage of the podcast format in particular is that it's one of the only media that isn't controlled by a single big tech platform and their algorithms. I think Spotify and Apple podcasts have tried to make it their walled garden but failed, almost every podcast is available through RSS feeds even today.

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in reply to Rokosun Monday, February 2, 2026, 8:02 PM

For me podcasts do not work in terms of creating them. Maybe if you have a cool voice and clear, may be more interesting. But this is not for me. I am also a very visual person and the way I designed our books was a great way to express myself.

Will see....

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in reply to Tio Monday, February 2, 2026, 8:50 PM from Fedilab

Yeah I understand about the voice, if I think about it I would also get very self conscious about my voice if I were to sit in front of a mike to record a podcast lol 😅 And about you being a visual person, yeah that's what I was thinking how you expressed yourself so clearly with some simple figure drawings in your last blog post - that made me realize that this is your thing haha 😄 So audio won't help you with that.....

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in reply to Tio Wednesday, February 4, 2026, 3:17 AM

I love all of these books 🙂 Crazy the amount of work you put into them, you should be very proud. I know I am ❤️

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Thank you so much!

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amazing face-illustration... very.nice

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@Tio I remember "The Money Game and Beyond" was my first book that I read and it changed my life basically! I had this thought of "If I were to write a book about the world, I would write it exactly like this!"
Amazing how you compress so much relevant knowledge into each of the books and I couldn't be happier to have translated most of them into german - it was a journey that I enjoyed so much 😊
Looking forward to new TROM content and materials however they might be 😉

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in reply to aaron Saturday, April 11, 2026, 9:51 PM

Thank you so much wonderful friend @aaron you are so amazing for translating almost everything into German. So amazing. And yah can't wait to create more content. Thank you again for this wonderful message!

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@aaron
I know everyone talks about the origin of most problems book but I feel like the money game and beyond book was just as good and eye opening. I honestly don't remember why I didn't finish reading that book, I think I had to stop due to exams or something - or else there's no way I'd stop reading something that captivating. I should probably go back and read these books sometime 🙂

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@Rokosun @Tio yeah for sure, you should!
Especially since the last parts were so captivating for me.
First chapter is a summary about fucked up the past and our current world is and why, second chapter about different ideas that people proposed to create something better and how they did end up in the world.
Third chapter is about what really works and how we can "approach" this world - how to be scientific about the "disease" that exists in the world and "treat" "it". I love all parts and it is written so well :)

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@aaron
I think I have read most of the book already, because I remember the analogy using aging as a disease and comparing it with our society. Also one of the things that really impressed me in the book is how it answers a lot of the questions that would naturally arise in the readers mind, like how to handle scarce resources - the book talks about the example of organ donation and how that is distributed based on some ethical standards humans came up with.

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@Rokosun @Tio yeah, I love those!
It's fantastic to come up with good analogies and I think all TROM books do this very well!
I feel like it's easy for people to grasp - for me at least :)

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Thursday, June 26, 2025, 2:21 PM

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Ocean with David Attenborough - videoneat.com/documentaries/26…

Very important documentary. Very well made. But still no criticism of this trade based society...their solutions work IF we calm down with consumerism.

#nature #documentary #capitalism

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Attenborough explores the planet’s undersea habitats, revealing the greatest age of ocean discovery and emphasizing the ocean’s vital importance while exposing its problems and highlighting opportunities for marine life recovery.

Ocean with David Attenborough - National Geographic Society
The stunning documentary, Ocean with David Attenborough, shines a light on both the beauty of the sea and the ways in which humans are depleting its riches.
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#Capitalism #nature #documentary

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Tuesday, May 20, 2025, 2:01 PM

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Extinction Rebellion may have gone quiet, but climate protest will come roaring back | Oliver Haynes - theguardian.com/commentisfree/…

Yes....I noticed that too. You know there were many loud people and projects for the past decade or so. Some protesting, some proposing radical alternatives to this so called "capitalist" society. Meaning this trade-based society. They are all kinda gone now...

I am one of them. Since 2011 I scream and scream and scream. And do all sorts of projects.

But the truth is that we are like trying to grow a crop in the middle of Times Square. There is no fertile soil, only concrete and people trying to stop you doing it.

There is no help for me to create and maintain the so many projects I do. There is no support for the so many good-willing people out there who want to protect nature, do good deeds, amazing projects, open source, and so on. NOTHING.

We have to fend for

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Extinction Rebellion may have gone quiet, but climate protest will come roaring back | Oliver Haynes - theguardian.com/commentisfree/…

Yes....I noticed that too. You know there were many loud people and projects for the past decade or so. Some protesting, some proposing radical alternatives to this so called "capitalist" society. Meaning this trade-based society. They are all kinda gone now...

I am one of them. Since 2011 I scream and scream and scream. And do all sorts of projects.

But the truth is that we are like trying to grow a crop in the middle of Times Square. There is no fertile soil, only concrete and people trying to stop you doing it.

There is no help for me to create and maintain the so many projects I do. There is no support for the so many good-willing people out there who want to protect nature, do good deeds, amazing projects, open source, and so on. NOTHING.

We have to fend for ourselves - to find ways to trade and stay alive, while doing these things. There is no way forward like that.

We are bound to perish.

I keep on surviving, surprisingly enough, with more projects than I started in 2011. But my reach is hundreds of times less than it was in 2011. I have to trade at times to make some money, I have to stress over not having enough to make it, I have to do a ton of work that should be done by 10 people normally.

The financial support is bleeding out, the interest I feel is not even present that much.

It all sounds very pessimistic but it is the truth. However I am still not giving up. I have new ideas and approaches.

And I know there are MANY MANY people out there who still keep the flame of revolting and activism alive, and all they need is a bit of fertile soil to thrive. But to get that fertile soil, the help, is really hard. And perhaps that is where the focus should be.

Maybe TROM will start to focus on that bit...

Will see.

If you are one of us, don't despair. You are for sure not alone. Maybe new projects and forms of activism will arise out of the stagnant frustration and anger that so many have layered within.

A system in which its members cannot even have the time and means to protest or propose/work on alternatives, is an abusive system. It only wants for "it" to survive, as it is the only way for its members to stay afloat. Therefore humans have to trade in the trade system, to survive. That is the forced incentive. Anything else can only temporarily survive.

The trade game has to go.

STEPS:

Provide the basic needs as trade-free: healthcare, education, communication, food, shelter, etc..
Provide a Universal Basic Income to everyone, no strings attached.

This is how we allow people to focus on what they see as important. To have time to get informed and inform others. To get involved, to help, to thrive.

Nothing else will work!

FIRST: HELP THE PEOPLE!

#capitalism #TradeRuinsEverything #ExctinctionRebellion #money #climate #climatechange #trom #activism #anarchy #socialism

Extinction Rebellion may have gone quiet, but climate protest will come roaring back

The pandemic and harsh laws suffocated climate movements as we knew them. Get ready for a new kind of action, says journalist Oliver Haynes

^{Oliver Haynes (The Guardian)}

#activism #Capitalism #money #climatechange #climate #socialism #trom #anarchy #TradeRuinsEverything #ExctinctionRebellion

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Sounds like you could benefit from connecting with @DarkOptimism

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#Capitalism #money #Recycling #documentary #society #plastic

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How you can try to fix this world, realistically.

Maybe you can start it first per tribe, then expand globally.

Goal: humans should not have to trade in order to survive in this society. Since this creates a tsunami of problems for people and the rest of this planet. (source)

Plan:

Basic needs trade-free.

Make the most basic needs services trade-free. Healthcare, transportation, shelter, basic food, access to Internet (information and communication). You can do that through taxes, through volunteers, through all sort of means. Many tribes already provide some of these as trade-free, like in Europe a lot of the healthcare systems are like that. Not difficult!

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Maybe you can start it first per tribe, then expand globally.

Goal: humans should not have to trade in order to survive in this society. Since this creates a tsunami of problems for people and the rest of this planet. (source)

Plan:

Basic needs trade-free.

Make the most basic needs services trade-free. Healthcare, transportation, shelter, basic food, access to Internet (information and communication). You can do that through taxes, through volunteers, through all sort of means. Many tribes already provide some of these as trade-free, like in Europe a lot of the healthcare systems are like that. Not difficult!

Basic Income.

Since this world still relies on trades (money), and people may have different sort of needs and definitely wants, give everyone a basic income (say 1.000 dollars a month) with no strings attached. You can do it again through taxes, via the removal of so many institutions and resources dedicated to track people and check if they are eligible for benefits, and all of the paperwork nonsense that has been created around this. No more "benefits", no more "pensions". Forget about labeling people as employed or unemployed in regards to who should be helped.

That is it!

Now you will have a bunch of humans who KNOW they are taken care of. They KNOW that if they get sick they should only worry about that health problem and not a financial problem. They KNOW that they wont starve or end up on the street. They know they are SAFE.

On top of this, with the money you give them monthly, they can have some power and focus on doing some useful things in this society. At least some will, if not many.

This can grow up over time into a saner society of humans who can refuse to work for bullshit companies, or do any bullshit jobs. A world in which humans have the time to decide what to focus on, who to "vote" for, stay informed and properly inform others.

A world where scientists or journalists should not worry about their livelihood. So they can do their "jobs" properly.

We deserve and need this world. Else there is no intelligent species on this planet.

#capitalism #TradeRuinsEverything #money #society #ubi #basicincome #world #work #unemployment

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The Sickness-Society: either you are well and functional — or sick and dysfunctional - madintheuk.com/2025/03/the-sic…

Psychology is like recycling, you think it is working, but it is not. Never addresses the core problem. So easy to put people into categories and call them "sick". Works well for a livestock society. Best excuse to never touch the system in both cases. Continue recycling...continue labeling people as mentally ill. And let the system survive....

Truth is the opposite. It is this trade-based society that makes people mentally sick, and if we want to change that we have to change the society, not adjust the people to it.

Very good and on point article!

#psychology #mentaldisorders #capitalism #society

The Sickness-Society: either you are well and functional — or sick and dysfunctional - Mad in the UK

Katarina Lungden discusses the impact of diagnostic labelling to obtain welfare for emotional difficulties

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#Capitalism #society #psychology #mentaldisorders

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DNA testing site 23andMe files for bankruptcy protection - bbc.com/news/articles/c9q4r9xy…

Of course...a bullshit company, like most companies, providing nothing useful for the people and now even putting their personal information (and DNA) at risk. Because you know, other company may buy it and who knows what it does with the data. I have been saying that since the beginning when everyone was so excited about this useless company.

To read the DNA for useful purposes should be the job of entities that do not make a business out of it, but take care of people´s health. This nonsense of "see where you ancestors are from" "see if you are fucking irish or a goblin", is so useless even if accurate, which may not even be.

Anyway, another story of nonsense companies that make people give them their data to then fuck up this information for everyone.

#TradeRuinsEverything #capitalism #usa #profit #money

23andMe files for bankruptcy protection

The company said that it will now attempt to sell itself under the supervision of a court.

^{Lily Jamali (BBC News)}

#Capitalism #money #USA #Profit #TradeRuinsEverything

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Romania, a glimpse of dystopia? - tiotrom.com/2025/01/romania-a-…

Perhaps Romania is just a more exaggerated version of the global future we are heading towards, or perhaps already experiencing.

#romania #trump #capitalism #waste #consumption #recycling #europe

#Capitalism #europe #Recycling #Trump #romania #waste #Consumption

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Wednesday, January 15, 2025, 12:34 PM

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Wednesday, January 15, 2025, 12:34 PM

Sure "democracy"....a way for the "majority" to decide ha?!

Yet we live in a world where the ones with a lot of financial power always decide. They own the messengers, social platforms, streaming platforms, newspapers, TV stations, they give money to politicians, bribe, abuse, and so forth....

It may be hard to accept, but there is no democracy. And never was. No one voted to go to war in Ukraine, in Gaza, in Afghanistan. No one voted for the use of fossil fuels instead of renewable energies. No one votes for the prices of medicine, if we should do space missions, build a park, or basically anything else.

People vote to elect a handful of tribe leaders, after a fierce battle of influence over these voters, to then have these leaders do as they please once they are elected. And some of these leaders can't even do shit since the rich control the world anyway.

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in reply to 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 Wednesday, January 15, 2025, 8:30 PM

For one, why? And second, how do you sound?

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in reply to Tio Wednesday, January 15, 2025, 8:49 PM

You saying, "That's what we need. [...] basic and good services, >>regardless of the party or leaders<<," combined with your rejection of capitalist democracy without suggesting an alternative version of democracy makes you sound very fascistic. I don't know what the question "how do you sound" is supposed to mean. I sound fine.

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You mean my posts sounds as if I support this?

Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/ FASH-iz-əm) is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement,[1][2][3] characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy

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That's quite a rushed and radical view.

I support a society in which every single human individual is being taken care of without any strings attached. So no: you get housing, food, whatever you need, ONLY if you do this or that. That's what I support and talk about since 2011 via tromsite.com/

Regardless if I know or not how this can be achieve

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You blocked me. That was fast :) Fast and Furious :)

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Tuesday, December 31, 2024, 1:13 PM

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Dont Worry, We are Fucked! videos.trom.tf/w/tn5h6Q6VK5QjK…

This is a recording I did after we finished filming for the TROM 2 documentary. I wanted to compress all of my thoughts in one go, one recording. And this rant is more than relevant today when it seems this world is fast slipping into idiocracy. If you did not see our TROM 2 documentary I recommend you better watch that instead of this video - tromsite.com/documentaries/tro…

In essence I think that the human society has dug its own grave so deep, it is likely we cannot save it from a total failure. However, if you have the patience to watch the entire rant, you will see that despite this negativity I am still positively active with sane and nice projects and I will continue to do so.

If the world is fucked, it does not mean I, or you, have to be fucked and complete idiots, or to not care about the world.

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Thursday, September 12, 2024, 1:40 PM

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The world is indeed becoming like a really bad bad dark comedy.

I suggest they take a shit from there to see how it lands on Earth. They are already shitting all over the planet anyway...

At the same time:

Yeah....not much can be said...

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Saturday, September 7, 2024, 11:29 PM

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Two things scare me the most....

Two things scare me the most, personally. First is death or health related issues. It is normal, if I die I'm fucked for eternity :). I think this is easy to understand for many people.

Second thing that scares me so much is to slip back into the fantasy world that humans created and forget about the amazing reality discovered for the past hundreds of years. To become too normal, even if that can mean to laugh, have fun, enjoy. I am scared of this. I battled this for all of my life trying to inject myself with reality bits and info (atoms, galaxies, evolution, stars and everything real) in the hope that my brain can understand the value of reality. It is hard. It is so hard and it is something I feel not many, if any, understand. It is also something that you can lose very fast, when you "get it".

I wanted to put a printed Hubble image of the Andromeda galaxy on the ceiling in my room when I was in college so that when I wake up it will remind me of how reality is mind blowing and the human invented one is a simplistic, myopic and colorless at best.

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Two things scare me the most, personally. First is death or health related issues. It is normal, if I die I'm fucked for eternity :). I think this is easy to understand for many people.

Second thing that scares me so much is to slip back into the fantasy world that humans created and forget about the amazing reality discovered for the past hundreds of years. To become too normal, even if that can mean to laugh, have fun, enjoy. I am scared of this. I battled this for all of my life trying to inject myself with reality bits and info (atoms, galaxies, evolution, stars and everything real) in the hope that my brain can understand the value of reality. It is hard. It is so hard and it is something I feel not many, if any, understand. It is also something that you can lose very fast, when you "get it".

I wanted to put a printed Hubble image of the Andromeda galaxy on the ceiling in my room when I was in college so that when I wake up it will remind me of how reality is mind blowing and the human invented one is a simplistic, myopic and colorless at best.

Most humans are today as they were 400, 1.000 , or more years ago. Let's have a beer, a chat, get married, fuck, have kids, gossip, have fun or war. Not saying some of these are not good or reasonable, but isn't it mindblowing that not much has changed in the core of our global society and the day to day life of humans for the past 400 years considering in this time we discovered cells, atoms, galaxies, evolution, and everything in between?

To me, this is so odd it creates a turmoil in my head. I think I have an explanation why this is the case tho: an aggressive trade-based society where everyone is a working ant. No time to even know about reality, let alone absorb it.

Reality is shocking, mind-blowing, fabulous, scary, infinitely complex and amazing.
Day to day life in this society is simplistic and almost parallel to reality.

If you don't fee like losing your mind when you think about this contrast, I don't think you understand.

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in reply to Tio Tuesday, September 10, 2024, 9:38 AM from Fedilab

I sometimes think of death as an external sleep and it makes it seem less frightening, except the pain of death and health issues ofc - those are still scary.

As for humans not changing in any fundamental ways over many centuries it doesn't feel that surprising to me - isn't this the case for most creatures on earth? 🤔 But yeah I do still wish for some things to change, things like wars and environmental destruction, or the fact that humans are still forced to be like working ants - that sucks because it takes away their precious time.

If you think about it the universe also feels stagnant sometimes, the moon rotates around the earth and the earth rotates around the sun - it has been like that for millions of years. I've heard that the Andromeda galaxy will one day collapse with the Milkyway to create a new galaxy, but the time it takes for that to happen is so long that my lifespan feels insignificant in comparison. Hell most of us don't even notice the

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in reply to Rokosun Tuesday, September 10, 2024, 11:21 AM

Well doesnt scare you the thought that you will never wake up or dream? :D - To me this realization that I will disappear forever is really frightening.

As for humans not changing in any fundamental ways over many centuries it doesn't feel that surprising to me - isn't this the case for most creatures on earth?

No because I am talking culturally/mentally change. No other creature can imagine like humans do. And to find out that you are made up of cells, or atoms, or are other solar systems out there, but not change in any fundamental way how you see your image, is weird to me.

Those missions are not just "humans exploring out of curiosity" - there are many people involved who just "do their job" as an engineer, scientist, etc.. I remember seeing videos from ISS with "scientists" wearing a cross, and being so "christians"....to me that's so weird. Also celebrating the SuperBall and I bet many watch Netflix in space.

My point is that if we were to discover that inside our skulls there is a green little man pushing buttons....and we have phot

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in reply to Tio Tuesday, September 10, 2024, 1:16 PM from Fedilab

Well doesnt scare you the thought that you will never wake up or dream? :D - To me this realization that I will disappear forever is really frightening.

Yeah it is kinda scary to think that you'll never be able to experience the world again, but once you're dead you're also not conscious anymore and without that you cannot miss what you had before. But yeah ofc it's normal to be scared of death, we all are to some extent.

No because I am talking culturally/mentally change. No other creature can imagine like humans do. And to find out that you are made up of cells, or atoms, or are other solar systems out there, but not change in any fundamental way how you see your image, is weird to me.

I think the discovery of these things actually did have an impact on our culture, but perhaps not as pronounced as it should've been. I remember the first time I learned about atoms as a kid, that was a mind blowing experi

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Well doesnt scare you the thought that you will never wake up or dream? :D - To me this realization that I will disappear forever is really frightening.

Yeah it is kinda scary to think that you'll never be able to experience the world again, but once you're dead you're also not conscious anymore and without that you cannot miss what you had before. But yeah ofc it's normal to be scared of death, we all are to some extent.

No because I am talking culturally/mentally change. No other creature can imagine like humans do. And to find out that you are made up of cells, or atoms, or are other solar systems out there, but not change in any fundamental way how you see your image, is weird to me.

I think the discovery of these things actually did have an impact on our culture, but perhaps not as pronounced as it should've been. I remember the first time I learned about atoms as a kid, that was a mind blowing experience for me! And I remember discussing about these ideas with a friend who was also blown away by these things. The crazy thing is that it almost feels like science fiction, and I know people have theorized about this idea centuries ago that maybe all matter was made out of some fundamental particles - those were just theories back then, until we discovered through science that it was actually real! Over time I got used to the idea of atoms and it doesn't excite me anymore like when I was a kid first discovering it, but this is pretty normal - it keeps me wanting to learn new things so that I could feel like that kid again 🙂

Those missions are not just "humans exploring out of curiosity" - there are many people involved who just "do their job" as an engineer, scientist, etc.. I remember seeing videos from ISS with "scientists" wearing a cross, and being so "christians"....to me that's so weird. Also celebrating the SuperBall and I bet many watch Netflix in space.

Religion and science is a weird mix for sure, but I don't know maybe it works in this weird ant worker society we got going lol 😄 Stuff like SuperBall and Netflix could be argued as a waste of time (if someone's spending too much time on it), but at least these are not fundamental beliefs like religion and likewise not as harmful.

My point is that if we were to discover that inside our skulls there is a green little man pushing buttons....and we have photos of that, and so on, but you tell to people about it and they are like "hm, ok, yah" and move on with their life....this is WEIRD :D

Oh yeah I get what you mean, I don't understand people who don't have any curiosity man 😅 It is sad to see people being apathetic to these things. Sometimes when I learn about something really cool and wanna share it with others I have no one around me who could understand it or share that excitement with me, sometimes when there is someone they'll be too busy to have the time for it - experiences like that does make me feel alone sometimes.

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in reply to Rokosun Tuesday, September 10, 2024, 1:39 PM

but once you're dead you're also not conscious anymore and without that you cannot miss what you had before

The missing part is for the alive ones :P like us. So ofc it is frighting to think about it.

I think the discovery of these things actually did have an impact on our culture, but perhaps not as pronounced as it should've been.

I do not see that impact. People's lives are the same as they were hundreds or thousands of years ago: work, consume, get married, have kids, gossip, and all that. These discoveries didn't even make us feel like one species. We are still divided into tribes.

Sometimes when I learn about something really cool and wanna share it with others I have no one around me who could understand it or share that excitement with me, sometimes when there is someone they'll be too busy to have the time for it - experiences like that does make me feel alone sometimes.

Yeah exactly....as I was saying since people are so busy to trade mostly. It sucks and it destroys curiosity. It really sucks.

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in reply to Tio Thursday, September 12, 2024, 1:48 PM

Mmm, depends what you mean by "core of our global society" I guess.

Most people are always going to want to concentrate on things of immediate relevance. I mean, yes, cells and galaxies are wonderful and all, but how does that change anything you can do in your day to day life ? For most people, unless you're a doctor or an astronomer, it doesn't.

On the other hand... a lot less people are involved in manual labour today than they were even 40 years ago, let alone 400. How many people even earned a living from website design 40 years ago ? In some ways the changes have been profound even at the practical level, let alone the subtler realm of world views (which have changed beyond recognition).

In Stephen Baxter's novels he refers to all the accessories needed for manned spaceflight collectively as plumbing : we need to bring along a hell of a lot of stuff just to keep us going. Likewise, what have we learned that prevents the need for sex, trade and beer (not necessarily in that order) ? Nothing, really. We still need to do all that stuff. It's

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Most people are always going to want to concentrate on things of immediate relevance. I mean, yes, cells and galaxies are wonderful and all, but how does that change anything you can do in your day to day life ? For most people, unless you're a doctor or an astronomer, it doesn't.

Probably "immediate relevance" means whatever they are made to focus on in this society: iphones, gadgets, stupid tv shows, events, consume, drama, etc.. Cells and galaxies and the rest are something one can use to change the way they see themselves and others. Like we are all humans, all connected, no need for artificial separations like borders, nationalities, color of the skin, etc.. These are also wonderful discussion topics and may make people buy a telescope/microscope rather than a new phone. There are many implications resulting from such a scientific mind set.

On the other hand... a lot less people are involved in manual labour today than they were even 40 years ago, let alone 400. How many people even earned a living from website design 40 years ago ? In s

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in reply to Tio Thursday, September 12, 2024, 3:15 PM

Yes, but most scientists also want to buy stuff, get married, etc. We don't spend the whole time pontificating on the nature of reality because, as I said, it would drive us mad.

I think the general mindset of the modern world has changed, substantially, from where it was centuries ago. Social attitudes have changed radically from where they were even a few decades ago : compare the role of women in the workplace in the 1950s, or how homosexuals were treated in the 1980s. There isn't full equality yet, but good lord there's been a colossal shift in that direction (interestingly of course, if you go back further through history, you often find shifts in both positive as well as negative directions compared to the modern era, e.g. homosexuality in ancient Greece).

Yes, lots of people use gadgets and whatnot for watching stupid TV shows and the like. But they also use them for watching educational stuff.

I dunno, I just think there's no one right way to live one's life. I'm an astronomer, but I'd no more want to force astronomy on those unwilling to do it t

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It is not about "pontificating" about atoms, galaxies, and what-not, is about how these fundamental truths that were only discovered recently seem to have no impact on the vast majority of people. And that is very strange.

I am lucky to be around people who are excited about these real things so we often talk about these, we go with the telescope and watch some planets, or look at things through the microscope, etc.. I cannot even watch movies anymore, I watch documentaries. Reality is the most mindblowing and interesting and complex thing, so if you get it, you can't be excited by simplistic human-made stories I guess. And we are far from losing our minds :)

I agree some social attitudes have changed a lot, but many have not in my view. The attitude towards work, the notion of family, the view of us as one species (which is scientifically accurate) does not seem to be a thing in this society - I see a lot more division every day. We have the same core trade-based society where the purpose of pretty much everyone is that of trade. To trade themselves or the stuff they

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in reply to Tio Saturday, September 14, 2024, 1:22 PM (Received Saturday, September 14, 2024, 3:52 PM)

Well I do agree that we aren't hardwired for anything very much. In large part, I think, we are society; we are our own environment. Yet there are behaviours like family bonds which, if not truly constant, don't seem to vary nearly as strongly. Hence I interpret some attitudes and behaviours, at least, to be hard-wired, maybe not fully so but much more than others.

I'm fascinated by how other cultures have interpreted reality in very different ways. The modern scientific world view is really very recent indeed and nowhere near complete, or even wholly accurate. I would agree that this hasn't really changed any of the basics like the need for family, trade, socialising, but on the other hand, why would it ? The big ideas don't filter down to that level much except as nth-order effects. There is a deep-seated need to talk to other people, to have friends, to have material goods... whether reality is the atomic waste of stellar explosions or we're actually all living inside the eye of a giant duck wouldn't make any difference to that. In a way, all co

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Well I do agree that we aren't hardwired for anything very much. In large part, I think, we are society; we are our own environment. Yet there are behaviours like family bonds which, if not truly constant, don't seem to vary nearly as strongly. Hence I interpret some attitudes and behaviours, at least, to be hard-wired, maybe not fully so but much more than others.

I'm fascinated by how other cultures have interpreted reality in very different ways. The modern scientific world view is really very recent indeed and nowhere near complete, or even wholly accurate. I would agree that this hasn't really changed any of the basics like the need for family, trade, socialising, but on the other hand, why would it ? The big ideas don't filter down to that level much except as nth-order effects. There is a deep-seated need to talk to other people, to have friends, to have material goods... whether reality is the atomic waste of stellar explosions or we're actually all living inside the eye of a giant duck wouldn't make any difference to that. In a way, all conceptions of reality are equally astonishing (Pratchett, as often, said it best).

On the other hand... nobody goes to the local Wise Woman for medicine anymore (well, with some unfortunate exceptions...), or sacrifices a bull to bring the rain. Some basics haven't varied much but differences of detail are huge. The things that don't vary, I think, are the fundamental "plumbing" and likely will never alter very much at all.

And the thing is, discoveries filter through slowly. We have time to adapt; there isn't much "shock value" in most findings. Even when there is, what seemed revolutionary yesterday becomes normal very quickly indeed. We are extremely flexible. Possibly there's a state of maximum excitation beyond which things are so radically different that they just can't be understood at all, but below which pretty nearly everything becomes normal.

I suppose it might be "scary" in the sense that maybe we aren't as humbled as we should be. On the other hand, being in a state of permanent astonishment and surprise would be debilitating. Flexibility has its advantages.

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in reply to Rhysy Saturday, September 14, 2024, 5:07 PM

I looked a lot into this hard-wiring "theory" of behavior and I could never find anything of significance especially since humans can always change. So the outside pressures are always the ones capable of changing the behavior.

I would agree that this hasn't really changed any of the basics like the need for family, trade, socialising, but on the other hand, why would it ?

Well take climate change. It is a huge issue. All scientists agree about that basically. But not much is being done because something else overwrites it: the pressures in this trade based society to seek for profit.

In the same way people are more incentivized and made to watch some silly netflix series than say documentaries (due to ads for example), or find it easier to have chit-chats about nothing things than more interesting conversations because most people are tired due to work. And so on. The notion of a family is quite stagnant and promoted by the same media that everyone consumes.

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I looked a lot into this hard-wiring "theory" of behavior and I could never find anything of significance especially since humans can always change. So the outside pressures are always the ones capable of changing the behavior.

I would agree that this hasn't really changed any of the basics like the need for family, trade, socialising, but on the other hand, why would it ?

Well take climate change. It is a huge issue. All scientists agree about that basically. But not much is being done because something else overwrites it: the pressures in this trade based society to seek for profit.

In the same way people are more incentivized and made to watch some silly netflix series than say documentaries (due to ads for example), or find it easier to have chit-chats about nothing things than more interesting conversations because most people are tired due to work. And so on. The notion of a family is quite stagnant and promoted by the same media that everyone consumes.

Most boils down to this trade-based society where people are incentivized to promote and consume whatever sells best, where most people are busy and consumers, where reality is not really sold/advertised in any way, and so on.

Why would notions like the family, or the idea of work, and so forth be changed by whatever we discovered so far? Because what we discovered shows us we are one species on one planet, and same as with the climate change we should change the way we do things on this planet because we are not doing so well. And where there is no issue that is uncovered by this reality, like climate change, then the view of yourself in this universe should change if you find something new about reality, no?

There is a deep-seated need to talk to other people, to have friends, to have material goods... whether reality is the atomic waste of stellar explosions or we're actually all living inside the eye of a giant duck wouldn't make any difference to that.

It is so strange to think this way. Are you saying that if tomorrow we discover that all is a computer simulation, and everyone agrees, wouldn't it be weird if people would have the same lives as before?

I do not think there is a "natural" excuse for this state of numbness about reality. Whenever I show others the Moon or other planets through my telescope they don't even have a clue what these are. And they are fascinated when I tell them. I think the information doesn't reach most people to begin with. You can't be curious if you don't even know.

We could be very different beings if we were to take reality more seriously.

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in reply to Tio Monday, September 16, 2024, 9:16 AM

Well, the notion that we live in a simulation is essentially Berkelian idealism, which has been floating around for at least a couple of centuries and arguably a lot longer (certainly everyone has wondered at some point, "what if it's all a dream ?"). We've already had plenty of time to get use to the idea, so if it was somehow thought to be actually true, nothing much would happen.

Same as discovering aliens. When we actually do detect an alien signal or some microfossils, or even actual living microbes, I predict the reaction will be... not much. We've been writing stories about it since basically forever - it isn't a revolutionary concept anymore. Shock value is extremely hard to maintain. Sure, discovery of aliens would cause a big press hoo-hah. But unless we actually get an alien spaceship landing on the proverbial White House lawn (or equivalent), it isn't going to change anything fundamental on the long term. Anything we can't actually interact with becomes an abstraction.

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Well, the notion that we live in a simulation is essentially Berkelian idealism, which has been floating around for at least a couple of centuries and arguably a lot longer (certainly everyone has wondered at some point, "what if it's all a dream ?"). We've already had plenty of time to get use to the idea, so if it was somehow thought to be actually true, nothing much would happen.

Same as discovering aliens. When we actually do detect an alien signal or some microfossils, or even actual living microbes, I predict the reaction will be... not much. We've been writing stories about it since basically forever - it isn't a revolutionary concept anymore. Shock value is extremely hard to maintain. Sure, discovery of aliens would cause a big press hoo-hah. But unless we actually get an alien spaceship landing on the proverbial White House lawn (or equivalent), it isn't going to change anything fundamental on the long term. Anything we can't actually interact with becomes an abstraction.

Climate change is also a good example. Here's the rub : what can any of us actually do about it ? In the case of aliens or simulations, nothing. I can't see why that would make me like or dislike my friends and family any more than I do already : what bearing would it have on anything ? I'm stuck with the reality I have before me. Knowledge of what it "really" is doesn't change anything at all for me : I still experience the same pleasures and pains, so I can't see what difference it would make practically (this is not at all the same as saying I wouldn't find it hugely interesting, however !).

(In the case of climate change, this is a bit tangential, but the answer is still "not much" individually - real differences require different power generation, farming techniques, societal structures, etc. none of which any individual has any real influence over)

It's not numbness, or even indifference. It's just that these things are orthogonal. I think you're taking it for granted that knowledge of reality should fundamentally change behaviour, but I cannot really see why this should be the case. Atomic theory hasn't altered family dynamics - I think it would be extremely strange if it did !

Culture changes enormously, as I said, and I agree that this is largely due to external factors : I'm not disagreeing with you on that one significantly. I further agree that the world would be a better place if more people were more concerned about the bigger issues than the humdrum superficial stuff. It's disappointing and, yes, even a little weird that they're not. But I can't see why any sort of discovery would, or even should, change something as fundamental as the nature of friendships and families. Material concerns could and should be mitigated, but I would think the chain of thought from "what is the nature of reality ?" to "how many eggs do I need to buy today ?" is so convoluted as to make these essentially unrelated questions. Likewise, why would knowing that you're made of atoms or dreams affect whether you fancy someone or enjoy playing tennis or having a beer ? I can't see why it would.

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It is one thing for fictional ideas to be around for ages, another to prove one of them is real. The example was to show how a shocking discovery should shock people.

Shock value is extremely hard to maintain.

I am talking about the initial shock value that does not seem to happen to begin with in many cases in regards to the contrast between reality and society.

Anything we can't actually interact with becomes an abstraction.

I bet is not about interaction as it is about stimulation. There are many people in awe and shock about galaxies, or cells, or biology, or maths, or other parts of reality, as they are about celebrities, movies, fantasy stories and other things they cannot touch, interact with. It is all about what you stimulate people, culturally, to be interested in.

Like climate change, there are many who react to this bad piece of "news" and are active about trying to do something about it. Where is that motivation coming from since they seem to have no impact on the course of it anyway? It comes from what

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It is one thing for fictional ideas to be around for ages, another to prove one of them is real. The example was to show how a shocking discovery should shock people.

Shock value is extremely hard to maintain.

I am talking about the initial shock value that does not seem to happen to begin with in many cases in regards to the contrast between reality and society.

Anything we can't actually interact with becomes an abstraction.

I bet is not about interaction as it is about stimulation. There are many people in awe and shock about galaxies, or cells, or biology, or maths, or other parts of reality, as they are about celebrities, movies, fantasy stories and other things they cannot touch, interact with. It is all about what you stimulate people, culturally, to be interested in.

Like climate change, there are many who react to this bad piece of "news" and are active about trying to do something about it. Where is that motivation coming from since they seem to have no impact on the course of it anyway? It comes from whatever these people have in their heads. That motivates them.

If you don't feel like doing anything about the climate issue then it is all because you may not realize the importance of it or whatever makes you think is not worth your energy. But in the end is all about what we have in our brains, and that comes form the environment (culture). And this culture/system is a lot, if not most, about consumption and stupid things, so that's what people have in their brains. Of course they cannot get too excited about galaxies or atoms, but they get a lot of excitement when Prince H marries with Princess A, or about some fictional TV show. These are advertised to them a lot.

Atomic theory hasn't altered family dynamics - I think it would be extremely strange if it did !

People used to get married with their cousins or even closer relatives not long ago. It was normal. I think even Darwin married his cousin. Now because of some cultural shits and knowing that it is a bad idea (genetically speaking) to mate with closer relatives, this notion seems disgusting for many. Discoveries, bits of reality, can change and should change the way we think about mundane things.

Knowing that we are all made out of atoms should make us rethink our culturally inherited values such as fictional borders, human behavior, man made laws, and so forth. Why? Because we are part of a greater story and we are all part of the same system. A planet, an ecosystem, dependent on nature, and so forth.

But I can't see why any sort of discovery would, or even should, change something as fundamental as the nature of friendships and families

Simply because there is no nature about these things.

Even today there are tribes where children are raised by the entire community and have no notions of parents. Or their relationships are vastly different from the rest of the "civilized" world.

Humans are like plasticine molded by their environment. It is simply that our culture/system is the same for thousands of years: trade, have jobs, mate, have kids, retire, die. Humans are busy at least 8h every day, and when they finish work/school they are so tired that at the best they can chew is simplistic and dumbed down media produced by the same system of trade (workers) trying to sell stuff. It is a self propelled idiocracy that makes people unable to know and digest the complexity of reality that science is discovering. I think that's a better explanation of this situation.

Imagine you take a fish from the sea and the fish could suddenly talk and understand you. You explain to him about the world, the planet, the water, the evolution. If they fish is not even curious, let alone shocked about what you enlighten him with, then I think we should probably consider the fish as non-intelligent, or incapable of understanding. No?

You put the fish back in the sea and he goes on about being a fish for the rest of his life. Why would anything change for him no?

To me this makes the fish look "stupid". Primitive. Incapable of grasping a greater reality.

With humans is different since we know they have the capacity to wonder about greater things that they cannot touch or even see. They are capable. So when they are not touched by mindblowing discoveries about reality, then it is a different explanation as of why that is, rather than "it is normal" or they are "incapable" of grasping. Again, looking at the system of trade, this society we live in, I think we can understand, as I explained, why they are not touched much about reality, but are very touched about all sort of things: fictional stories, movies, consumerism, etc..

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Thursday, August 22, 2024, 1:33 PM

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Thursday, August 22, 2024, 1:33 PM

Politics, a cringe show. And USA has the most popular of the shows.

Empty words, rich people, a cult of following. Nothing changes: most people have to trade their lives to survive (work), the rich are getting richer, inequality on the rise, the destruction of nature is flourishing. More idiots, more stupidity, shittier and fake lives.

Planet Trade. Welcome. Very predictable. Enjoy the show, slurp the fantasies.

#TradeRuinsEverything #trade #capitalism #politics #dnc #inequality #justice

#politics #Capitalism #Inequality #justice #trade #dnc #TradeRuinsEverything

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Saturday, August 10, 2024, 9:53 PM

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NO.

This is so confusing. There are many free things where you are not "the product". We make many, see tromsite.com and trom.tf.

I wish people would stop saying this about google and the like. There is a simple and to the point way of describing these "free" services. They are TRADE-BASED. You have to trade something to them, in order to use their services.

In the same way that when you go to a supermarket you have to trade your currency for what you grab from it, you have to trade your attention (ads) or data to Google when you go on their platform. Currency, attention, data.

S I M P L E

We live in a TRADE-BASED society where pretty much everything is trade-based. Money is just a currency we invented, but trades go wi

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#privacy #foss #Capitalism #Google #free #YouTube #trade-free #trom #tromsite #trade #tutanota #trade-based

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This is so confusing. There are many free things where you are not "the product".*"
If it doesn't has ads and trackers, then yes. Unless it doesn't violates user's privacy.

Thats exactly what I argue there are many trade-free things out there, google aint one. Nor is any that forces you to trade your attention (ads) or data. They are trade-based. BAD

btw learn how to use quotes in friendica.....else it is very confusing....

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The original post is all about how google and the like cannot be trusted, since it is a trade-based service.

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TROM II: Technology Won't Save Us - videos.trom.tf/w/weWXUVT1zXW5v…

#technology #renewables #renewable-energy #electric-cars #capitalism #trade

TROM II: Technology Won't Save Us

Watch the entire documentary here - https://www.tromsite.com/documentaries/trom2/

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#Capitalism #technology #trade #renewables #renewable-energy #electric-cars

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If anyone thinks that China is a "communist" society, just watch this documentary - videoneat.com/documentaries/26…

They are as "capitalistic" as USA. Or, in other words, they have a trade-based society. As simple as that. Produce, trade, consume.

#trade #china #usa #communism #capitalism #money #consumption

#Capitalism #money #USA #China #Communism #trade #Consumption

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in reply to Tio Friday, August 2, 2024, 11:50 PM

"They are as "capitalistic" as USA. Or, in other words, they have a trade-based society. As simple as that. Produce, trade, consume."

That is not what capitalism is. China is functionally capitalist to a degree, yes, but not because they have production and trade and consumption. It's because many of the means of production are held privately, and to a degree they have the capacity to buy and sell as they wish.

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in reply to AKingsbury Saturday, August 3, 2024, 12:18 AM

Well the truth is that capitalism, socialism, or other isms are vague ideals.

The means of production being privately owned means near to nothing since they are always under the weight of a gov. USA or China. You can't just own a business, meaning be able to trade as an individual under your own rules. You are always restrained and directed by gov, laws, rules, regions.

In essence what we have globally is a society of trade, where trade is the main activity and drive. China, USA, Europe, whatever hey call themselves as communist, free markets, socialist, capitalist, in the end is all about a trade-based society.

I wrote a book about it all if anyone is interested - tromsite.com/books/#flipbook-t…

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in reply to Tio Saturday, August 3, 2024, 1:20 AM

It makes a great deal of difference whether the means of production are privately owned or not. For one thing, private companies can and do fail; the government would hardly ever allow one of its departments to shutter based on bad performance in the market. For another, if the government owns the means of production, you have a monopoly; such a thing is barely possible under free market capitalism.

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in reply to AKingsbury Saturday, August 3, 2024, 1:30 AM

Private companies, if big enough, will be bailed out by the gov. See SpaceX, Tesla, and more. The gov will also intervene to stop monopolies from creating, at least in theory. They split apart the largest telecommunication company in the USA not long ago. So gov is intervening, from capping the prices of drugs, providing subsidies, tweaking taxes, etc..

China, USA, Europe or the rest. The gov is always intervening.

For another, if the government owns the means of production, you have a monopoly; such a thing is barely possible under free market capitalism.

A...sorry what? Microsoft, Apple, Facebook, Google ?? We live in a world of monopolies. In another book I wrote I showcase that in detail tromsite.com/books/#flipbook-t…

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in reply to Tio Saturday, August 3, 2024, 1:39 AM

Private companies, if big enough, are sometimes bailed out; I agree. They should not be. That is cronyism, not capitalism. They should be allowed to fail, and indeed sometimes are.

As to monopolies, nearly all of them are enabled by government action, not stopped by it.

Tell me; what does google have a monopoly in? Putting aside, of course, that we absolutely don't live under free market capitalism.

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in reply to AKingsbury Saturday, August 3, 2024, 1:47 AM

But they are....I am talking about the real world we live in not idealistic concepts. I compare USA with China and their self imposed labels, not the official and mushy definitions of capitalism vs communism since these do not exist.

As to monopolies, nearly all of them are enabled by government action, not stopped by it.

They are enabled by a system of trade that incentivizes companies to grow and individuals to seek profit.

Tell me; what does google have a monopoly in?

Too many things. Mobile operating systems, search engine, browser, online videos, online advertising, etc.. Again see here tromsite.com/books/#flipbook-t… - I spent a year on this book.

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in reply to Tio Saturday, August 3, 2024, 1:53 AM

Yes, they are..sometimes. Which still leaves plenty of small companies and some large ones that are allowed to fail; that is a good thing.

LIFE incentivizes individuals to profit from their action. That's true under all economic systems.

Nope; there's iOs/sailfish/Ubuntu touch, duckduckgo/yahoo/ask/dogpile/plenty more, firefox/opera/safari/chrome, peertube and odyssey, plenty of other ad companies.

So, again, what does google have a monopoly in?

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in reply to AKingsbury Saturday, August 3, 2024, 2:04 AM

Those you mention are barely "competitors". Google owns the market of mobile operating systems (over 70%), search prob over 90%, video platform, browser, etc.. They even give Firefox a ton of money to keep google as the default search engine. Basically google has no competition in many areas.

LIFE incentivizes individuals to profit from their action.

The environment pushes people to become one way or another. Currently we live in a trade-based society that incentivizes people to profit, compete, be selfish. etc..

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in reply to Tio Saturday, August 3, 2024, 2:16 AM

Those I mention are competitors. They exist, plenty of people can and do use them, and therefore google does not have a monopoly.

Yes, environments shape people. Please, provide literally any example of an environment where an individual is not incentivized to profit from their action.

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in reply to AKingsbury Saturday, August 3, 2024, 2:28 AM

Yah those are as much competitors as I am for Usain Bolt. I mean I can run...but have no chance to ever win a race with Usain. Same for Firefox and the like.

Please, provide literally any example of an environment where an individual is not incentivized to profit from their action.

Sure. We have a directory of such organizations where people volunteer without making any profits directory.trade-free.org/

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in reply to Tio Saturday, August 3, 2024, 2:31 AM

Poor comparison. No one imagines you can run anywhere near as fast as him,. PLENTY of people use the products and services of other companies, me included.

Oh, I see the issue here. You're restricting yourself to MONETARY profit. Here you go: merriam-webster.com/dictionary…

Definition of profit

Definition of 'profit' by Merriam-Webster

^{Merriam-Webster Dictionary}

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in reply to AKingsbury Saturday, August 3, 2024, 2:34 AM

No one imagines Firefox will overthrown Chrome or Linux Microsoft...these are clear examples of monopolies.

By not making a profit I mean they do not ask anything in return. They just do/help. Good people.

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in reply to Tio Saturday, August 3, 2024, 2:36 AM

It's irrelevant whether anyone imagines that anyone else will "overthrow" chrome or anyone else. Here:
merriam-webster.com/dictionary…

As to "not making a profit', do you imagine that do not see a valuable return for what they do?

Definition of monopoly

Definition of 'monopoly' by Merriam-Webster

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in reply to AKingsbury Saturday, August 3, 2024, 2:42 AM

If no one can compete with google in some domains, then google is a monopoly. And that is the case. Read the NPR article don't waste my time here please. npr.org/2024/05/02/1248152695/…

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in reply to Tio Saturday, August 3, 2024, 2:44 AM

"If no one can compete with google in some domains"

Such is not the case. I challenge you to name me a single domain in which no one, NO ONE, offers a plausible and functional alternative to google.

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in reply to AKingsbury Saturday, August 3, 2024, 2:47 AM

npr.org/2024/05/02/1248152695/…

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in reply to AKingsbury Saturday, August 3, 2024, 2:10 AM

If you do not want to read my book where I go into detail about these things, maybe read this npr.org/2024/05/02/1248152695/…

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in reply to Tio Saturday, August 3, 2024, 2:18 AM

I don't much care to read any of your material if you're going to make such basic mistakes as you've been making thus far.

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in reply to AKingsbury Saturday, August 3, 2024, 2:32 AM

I source all of my claims and so far I did not seem to have made any false claims.

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in reply to Tio Saturday, August 3, 2024, 2:34 AM

Please. You linked to en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_mar…, which in the SECOND SENTENCE says "Such markets, as modeled, operate without the intervention of government", and then went on to nonsense like social.trom.tf/display/dbc8dc4…

form of market-based economy

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By the way "free market capitalism" sounds like a horror show. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_mar… And partially it is present since big companies control governments in many cases giving them a "free" hand at doing business.

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in reply to AKingsbury Saturday, August 3, 2024, 2:40 AM

Where is my mistake?

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in reply to Tio Saturday, August 3, 2024, 2:42 AM

Seriously?

"Such markets, as modeled, operate without the intervention of government"

"And partially it is present since big companies control governments"

Do you actually not see the contradiction here?

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in reply to AKingsbury Saturday, August 3, 2024, 2:47 AM

To the contrary. If police is enforcing the law, but some people with power can buy the police officers, their guardian status is dissolved. Same with the gov. Big companies can buy off the gov rendering its guardian status as null. Thus creating a sort of free market for them. Such markets, as modeled, operate without the intervention of government ;).

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in reply to Tio Saturday, August 3, 2024, 2:52 AM

You claim that people pay the government to operate in their favor, thereby creating a free market, as define by...the government not intervening. Pure contradiction.

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in reply to AKingsbury Saturday, August 3, 2024, 2:53 AM

"And partially it is present since big companies control governments" - relax.

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in reply to Tio Saturday, August 3, 2024, 2:55 AM

I'm perfectly relaxed. If people lying online got me worked up, I'd have had a heart attack more than a decade ago.

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in reply to AKingsbury Saturday, August 3, 2024, 2:57 AM

Never too late my friend. You are lucky I am not lying :)

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in reply to Tio Saturday, August 3, 2024, 2:58 AM

Of course you are.

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in reply to AKingsbury Saturday, August 3, 2024, 2:59 AM

oh no.... :(

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in reply to Tio Saturday, August 3, 2024, 3:01 AM

Please, drop me a line when you can reconcile the government getting involved and the government not getting involved. Until then...well, I can see why no one would pay for your "books". Have a nice day,

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in reply to AKingsbury Saturday, August 3, 2024, 3:05 AM

Sorry to be rude but I'll never drop you anything. I hope you can find other things on the fediverse.

And no one can pay for my books since they are free. And they are books not "books", I think you may not understand the use of quotes.

I hope we can say goodby now and you go on your way :)

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in reply to AKingsbury Saturday, August 3, 2024, 1:50 AM

By the way "free market capitalism" sounds like a horror show. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_mar… And partially it is present since big companies control governments in many cases giving them a "free" hand at doing business.

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in reply to Tio Saturday, August 3, 2024, 1:53 AM

"And partially it is present since big companies control governments in many cases giving them a "free" hand at doing business."

Then you fail entirely to understand what a free market even is.

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in reply to AKingsbury Saturday, August 3, 2024, 2:05 AM

There is no such thing as "free market". And it does not even matter it is still a system of trade that suffers from the same symptoms: greed, consumption, profit, corruption, etc..

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in reply to Tio Saturday, August 3, 2024, 2:18 AM

There absolutely is such a thing as a free market. For example; who regulates who is and is not allowed to make, buy, or sell backpacks in the US?

As to your complaints about things like greed; tell me, are YOU greedy?

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in reply to AKingsbury Saturday, August 3, 2024, 2:31 AM

No one "markets" "freely". There are regulations in place. Even for backpacks.

And mostly no I am not greedy but it depends on what situations I face. Look at what I've been doing for the past 15 years tiotrom.com/projects/ - all free. Never made a profit. So likely I am not greedy most of the time.

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in reply to Tio Saturday, August 3, 2024, 2:32 AM

Please, show me the regulations on who can buy, sell, and/or make backpacks in the US.

Really? You're not greedy? It's rare to meet someone willing to make such a claim. What a saint you must be.

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in reply to AKingsbury Saturday, August 3, 2024, 2:39 AM

Of course you need to have a license for producing such a thing, patents, pay taxes, and a license to sell and where to. If you start to make backpacks now and sell them on the street you may be fined. You are also forced to pay taxes for your business and more.

Really? You're not greedy? It's rare to meet someone willing to make such a claim. What a saint you must be.

I said probably most of the time I am not. I released 2 huge documentaries, published over 30 books, made videos, articles, run trom.tf (free services for everyone), tromjaro.com linux distro, and more. All trade-free. Not a saint, but prob not greedy either.

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in reply to Tio Saturday, August 3, 2024, 2:41 AM

No, no, no claims. Please link me to actual regulations that say you need, for example, a license to produce backpacks.

No, no, don't sell yourself short. If you're not greedy, don;' engage in false modesty. Just admit you're not greedy.

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in reply to AKingsbury Saturday, August 3, 2024, 2:44 AM

Ok let's move on since you are slipping into nonsense. Please move on. You are starting to troll a little bit and I have a broken finger I barely can type.

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in reply to Tio Saturday, August 3, 2024, 2:45 AM

Okay, so you can't or won't provide any such regulations. I thought so.

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in reply to AKingsbury Saturday, August 3, 2024, 2:48 AM

Better go out more and maybe try to sell some backpacks in the street while at it. Maybe you'll relax more and learn some life lessons.

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in reply to Tio Saturday, August 3, 2024, 2:53 AM

Hey, if you cannot provide any proof of any kind in support of your assertions...well, that speaks volumes.

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in reply to AKingsbury Saturday, August 3, 2024, 2:55 AM

You refuse to read the books and links I sent you. You are a waste of time. Better do other things.

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in reply to Tio Saturday, August 3, 2024, 2:57 AM

I refuse to read books written by someone who makes incredibly simple logical mistakes. They're liable to be worse than nonsense.

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Bad judgement. It is your fault.

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Honest Government Ad | AI invidious.drgns.space/watch?v=…

This is too funny and truthful. Straight to the point.

#ai #artificialintelligence #billionaires #chatgpt #openai #trade #capitalism

#Capitalism #AI #trade #artificialintelligence #billionaires #openai #chatgpt

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Big Brands’ Green Claims Uncovered - videoneat.com/documentaries/26…

If you want to see how much of greenwashing is out there.....as if that's surprising...

#greenwashing #corruption #climatechange #trade #capitalism

2024-06-25 13:19:30

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#Capitalism #climatechange #Corruption #trade #greenwashing

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