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A bunch of atoms that are curious about the world, but furious about the society. We should help all humans to have a decent life without any strings attached, so that we can understand us, the atoms, and the rest of the universe. And create a smarter and saner society.

Since 2005 I make documentaries, write books, and enable many trade-free platforms for everyone.

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2022-11-07 19:31:51

Thank you InfinitelyGalactic for the TROMjaro review: Why we NEED new distros! - TROM Jaro Review https://ytb.trom.tf/watch?v=_fUGJdYPpcE
He is one of the few Linux reviewers that takes time to look into distros. So we are more than happy to see this review and the context he puts it into.
Awesome! #tromlive
Why we NEED new distros! - TROM Jaro Review

Why we NEED new distros! - TROM Jaro Review
So many thoughts on this one. Inspired by a recent videos by @Chris Titus Tech and @The Linux Experiment I make the argument for why we need new Linux distributions for the desktop using a pretty sweet distro based on Manjaro - TROM Jaro.
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I finished 29 minutes for TROM II, 3rd part! So much progress these days. I like it. I work like a crazyman! I want to finish it! go go! I will for sure finish around 40-50 minutes this month! Which is fabulous! But that's my only focus now. Be fed, be warm, be relaxed, be hydrated :D and work on the documentary! #tromlive

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Mastodon is getting traction. Good and bad.

On the front page of the BBC website I see an article about Mastodon:

That is great, but also not so.

It is fantastic that more people are joining the fediverse, but I am concerned and annoyed about a couple of things:

A. Popularity gets polluted

In a world where trade is the main activity for humans (jobs, money, data collection, all that crap), the more people will join, the more of these charlatans will, who want to promote their own shit on the platform. After all a lot of accounts on Twitter/Facebook are made for companies and to sell shit. They will start to do that on the Fediverse. Watch out!

B. Musk should not be the reason

If people move to the fediverse because of Musk, this is not ok. If they were not put off by Twitter's ads, control, data colle

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On the front page of the BBC website I see an article about Mastodon:

That is great, but also not so.

It is fantastic that more people are joining the fediverse, but I am concerned and annoyed about a couple of things:

A. Popularity gets polluted

In a world where trade is the main activity for humans (jobs, money, data collection, all that crap), the more people will join, the more of these charlatans will, who want to promote their own shit on the platform. After all a lot of accounts on Twitter/Facebook are made for companies and to sell shit. They will start to do that on the Fediverse. Watch out!

B. Musk should not be the reason

If people move to the fediverse because of Musk, this is not ok. If they were not put off by Twitter's ads, control, data collection, and centralization in the first place, then they have no clue what really fucks things up in this world. Is not just billionaires, it is the system making them and all of the above fuckery. So if platforms are trade-based: they ask you something in return (money, data, other currencies, attention, etc.) then this platform is a dangerous one. But I doubt most people understand that.

C. Misunderstanding about Mastodon/Fediverse

It is a great shame that people who write about this network only focus on Mastodon and do not understand how this works. That BBC article does make it look like the network is Mastodon. But that's gravely wrong. There are plenty of networks, some a lot more feature-rich than Mastodon. I understand, for newcomers can be confusing, but for one the more you talk about it the less confusing it becomes, and second if you do not talk about this then you completely dismiss the power of the federated network and its decentralized nature.

For example, if they were to recommend Friendica (which I use and provide a public instance of) then they could have mentioned that Friendica connects with Twitter too, and you can bring all of your friends in a second to Friendica, from Twitter. Get their posts in Friendica, reply to them, get notifications and all that. MUCH easier to come from Twitter to Friendica! Also Friendica is so feature-rich...and works with any Mastodon app....

D. Concentration is bad for federation

Speaking of promoting only Mastodon, they basically talk about 2-3 instances when they make these articles. Now people flock there, and we have a situation in which very few instances have most users...these instances are so powerful now. @Eugen 💀 and others should have not accepted more than say 100.000 users or less on their instances. This is so bad I can't explain. It means ONE single human can destroy connections and fuck things up for hundreds of thousands on the fediverse. Terrible!

Also this fuckery from the BBC article:

My god...the "donation" practice has been entirely corrupted nowadays isn't it? If admins ask for donations that's entirely different from someone asking you for money in order to get access to their network. A donation won't get you anything in return. This is why our struggle at TROM to explain why trade is essential to understand. Something is not free when you have to trade for it in return of getting that thing.

So, BBC:

If I have a Mastoton instance and say "You pay me 10$ a month and then you can join" then that's not free. You have to trade 10$ in order to join the network.
If I say "You join but you need to watch these ads that you cannot disable" then it is not free. I want your attention. So you trade your attention in order to join the network.
If I say "You can join the network but I collect data about you to make a profit off of it"....you guessed it, it is not freee. You traded your data for accessing the network.

However: if I say "You can join my network. I do not want anything from you. But if you want to donate you can." Then it is FREE. No trade. You can or cannot donate. And you can still join the network.

K? :D

Now welcome to the fediverse, not mastodon!

@Eugen Rochko blogs

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social.trom.tf/display/dbc8dc4… @Zoe Kleinman - thoughts?

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For the newcomers to the fediverse (mastodon and such) let me tell you a dark secret about this network. They tell you that you can choose any instance (server) and join the network. It is true, but what they do not tell you is that these instances cut ties with other instances quite often, so if you join instance X, is not like you can connect to everyone in this network. It fully depends on what the boss of this instance (the admin) wants to let you connect with.

And you never know much about these.

Therefore if your friend joined the instance Z and you are on the instance X, you may not be able to connect with your friend and you'll have no idea why. In that regards it is less transparent and more awful than Twitter.

Please tell instance admins to stop cutting ties with other instances. Tell them to keep their house clean without telling you who you can call from their house.

Twitter is like a massive apartment building controlled by 1 boss. And this boss is motivated by money. And the building is full of crappy shit, like marketers, ads, they knock on y

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For the newcomers to the fediverse (mastodon and such) let me tell you a dark secret about this network. They tell you that you can choose any instance (server) and join the network. It is true, but what they do not tell you is that these instances cut ties with other instances quite often, so if you join instance X, is not like you can connect to everyone in this network. It fully depends on what the boss of this instance (the admin) wants to let you connect with.

And you never know much about these.

Therefore if your friend joined the instance Z and you are on the instance X, you may not be able to connect with your friend and you'll have no idea why. In that regards it is less transparent and more awful than Twitter.

Please tell instance admins to stop cutting ties with other instances. Tell them to keep their house clean without telling you who you can call from their house.

Twitter is like a massive apartment building controlled by 1 boss. And this boss is motivated by money. And the building is full of crappy shit, like marketers, ads, they knock on your door with offers. You don't feel at home. You feel controlled. You know you have no power.

The fediverse is like a network of hippies that let you in their own houses and tell you that you can connect to any other house out there, talk to any friend you want. And if you do not like this house, you can pack your stuff and move. But it is deceiving. You may try to call your friend from the other house, only to realize you cannot. You think it may be a phone-line issue, but in fact the hippie home boss intentionally cut the connection to that house, without you even knowing it. It is a shady practice and entirely non-transparent. And if you want to move, you realize you can't move your favorite furniture, the bed, the clothes, and your belongings. You can just move your address somewhere else. And your belongings will stay at the other house. Thus, moving, is hard.

Welcome to the Internet.

The best network is a decentralized one, where your account is local and there are no servers. But the fediverse is still great for now. However be aware of such things....

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Rokosun

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Fediverse is more decentralized than mainstream social media platforms like twitter, but its still not decentralized enough to the point where we can say it "puts users back in control of their social network". This is why I'm always in the lookout for better tools that allows us to connect with our friends, without it being entirely reliant on centralized infrastructures like servers and stuff. Such completely decentralized networks will also be much more resilient and reliable.

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Cory DeVore 🏜️

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this is why I really love SSB (scuttlebutt) but the whole keeping your whole history makes for a pretty big local file after awhile 😅

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Alien (A23P)

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"Such completely decentralized networks will also be much more resilient and reliable"

To be fair, being decentralized does not inherently mean something is more resilient or reliable. In fact there exist many cases where being decentralized can render something/one less resilient, less reliable, or even both. The fediverse it self has shown many examples of this over (it's young) the years.

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Tio

in reply to Alien (A23P) • 2 years ago •

It is not that difficult to shut down a server. So being decentralized (no servers) is a lot more reliable and resilient in that regards.

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It still depends on exactly how it's decentralised. Briar is currently very unreliable since both sender and recipient need to be online simultaneously, meaning messages can go undelivered if both parties have limited connections.

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Tio

in reply to Mark • 2 years ago •

Sure, but if you have no internet connection then you can't reach a server either :P. And nowadays most people have an internet connection (talking about the "developed" tribes). More to that, you can implement something that allows you to send that message to anyone in the node, encrypted, and then when your friend is online, they will receive it. Making it as reliable as any server, considering the network is decently big, at least a few thousand users.

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> Briar is currently very unreliable since both sender and recipient need to be online simultaneously

In order to solve this problem you need propagation nodes in the network, that way you can send your message and then go offline, these propagation nodes will store your message and send it to the recipient when they come online. A new project that does this is github.com/markqvist/sideband

GitHub - markqvist/Sideband: LXMF client for Android, Linux and macOS allowing you to communicate with people or LXMF-compatible systems over Reticulum networks using LoRa, Packet Radio, WiFi, I2P, or anything else Reticulum supports.

LXMF client for Android, Linux and macOS allowing you to communicate with people or LXMF-compatible systems over Reticulum networks using LoRa, Packet Radio, WiFi, I2P, or anything else Reticulum s...

^GitHub

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It is funny to me that people feel outrage by Musk buying Twitter and then flock to the fediverse, but were not outraged by Twitter's ads, complete control over their accounts, data collection and so on. Maybe they should understand that first, so that they know what to stay away from.

Also it is worth mentioning, Musk is not the problem here. The system that creates Musk is the issue. It was Bill Gates, and Zucky, and before were oil-giants, and bankers, and royal families and so forth.... Musk is not the one we should throw rocks at, but the system of trade is. This global insane system that all it wants from us is to trade this for that, giving rise to businesses, inequality, waste, billionaires, useless products, data collection, ads and so forth.

That being said, welcome to the fediverse and understand that this network is going to be ok only if we keep it away from trades. As soon as any federated platform will start asking something in return from you, like your data, attention, currency, freedom and so forth (trade), shit will hit the fan. Big instances have en

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It is funny to me that people feel outrage by Musk buying Twitter and then flock to the fediverse, but were not outraged by Twitter's ads, complete control over their accounts, data collection and so on. Maybe they should understand that first, so that they know what to stay away from.

Also it is worth mentioning, Musk is not the problem here. The system that creates Musk is the issue. It was Bill Gates, and Zucky, and before were oil-giants, and bankers, and royal families and so forth.... Musk is not the one we should throw rocks at, but the system of trade is. This global insane system that all it wants from us is to trade this for that, giving rise to businesses, inequality, waste, billionaires, useless products, data collection, ads and so forth.

That being said, welcome to the fediverse and understand that this network is going to be ok only if we keep it away from trades. As soon as any federated platform will start asking something in return from you, like your data, attention, currency, freedom and so forth (trade), shit will hit the fan. Big instances have enormous power in this network too. They can de-federate and stop communicating with other instances, and slap a monthly fee on their own instance, or insert ads and who knows what.

So, the fediverse is great right now, since it is mostly made up of honest instances - different people from around the world creating their own instances. However more and more such people (admins) are cutting ties with other instances from a lack of thicker skin (knee jerk reactions), so in time, the network will grow divided and broken.

The fediverse should, in my view, be seen as a network-protocol. You can have your own instance and manage it (whatever rules you have) but never cut ties with other instances. This way we can all connect with each other, and your home (your instance) is still as clean as you want it to be. But if I am on your instance, let me connect to whoever the hell I want. It is not your business, dear admin, who my friends are, as long as I personally respect the rules of your instance.

Ok.

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Zuck is personally responsible for 2 genocides and 5 fascist leaders. Musk is an asshole with labor abuses. If you leave one you have to leave the others

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Tio

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Put the blame on people. Put them into jails. Chop their heads. Scare them. Rinse and repeat. Same society. Unless we change the society, nothing changes. New Zuckss, new Musks, new Gates will rise up in this trade based society.

Sure, try to deal with these assholes, but always understand that it is the society that needs to be changed.

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Super cheap, well built, old laptops.

Here's a video I made about those Fujitsu laptops that are quite well built and super cheap - videos.trom.tf/w/wfvj1nZLy9mA5…

Speaking of that, don't forget that I have a personal Peertube channel you can follow me at tiotrom@videos.trom.tf - I may post more videos in the future.

Super cheap, well built, old laptops.

This is my favorite laptop. Fujitsu Lifebook E series. For 100 or max 200 Euros you can but a part-metal built laptop, that is made to be serviced. Change the RAM, CD/DVDroom, drive, battery, clean the fan and all that, in seconds.

^{videos.trom.tf}

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I think eventually I will buy a framework laptop next year when I'll replace my bulky one. I mean the fact that I can replace every part of it, is absolutely amazing frame.work/de/en/marketplace/l… . The only downside for me is the small screen. I am used to 17inch screen.... Helps when designing stuff and video edit, but an external monitor can help me in that regards.

But yah if I am to buy a laptop this one is by far the best in terms of build and the fact that I can change pretty much anything is bliss. This should be the damn norm!

Fix Consumer Electronics

We know consumer electronics can be better for you and for the environment. Unlike most products, ours are open for you to repair and upgrade

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Mark

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A good concept, but quite lacking for my needs. In any case I've already done most of those upgrades/repairs on my old and current laptops.

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Tio

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Out of curiosity what is it lacking for you? A dedicated GPU perhaps? I think it can do video editing and pretty much everything except heavy 3D stuff, and prob modern games, right?

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Mark

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That's the main one, since I do have some GPU heavy workloads as well as gaming. The other big thing is that I have 2 NVMe drives in partial-RAID at the moment, while that only has a single slot .

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Tio

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I see. Yup. I really like that they also provide modules for storage.

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Roma

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If you are going with a "no dedicated GPU" laptop, I recommend to check out eGPU devices. These things allow basically to extend your laptop with any desktop GPU cards you may find. Yes, it isn't that mobile as having it inside the laptop and requires Thunderbold 3/4 protocol support (I couldn't find if framework laptops support that or not, unfortunately), but might be a good solution for rendering video and for other heavy loads which built-in graphic cards are not that capable of very well.

There are plenty of GPU cards may be found on eBay and here is the list of eGPU devices to consider:

egpu.io/best-egpu-buyers-guide…

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Tio

in reply to Roma • 2 years ago •

Very interesting idea. However if I think practically what I do with my linux system, I almost never use a dedicated GPU for several reasons, but basically whatever I use does not need a dedicated GPU. Even the video editor I use, Kdenlive almost never uses the GPU anyway...so it depends how the software is also setup to do that. Despite this I can edit a massive documentary that has many layers of footage and audio on top of each other.

I do not game either...

So for me, multitasking, video editing, graphic design and all that, a good CPU (and framerowk has plenty of those) and a good GPU (iris xe graphics that they ship with is more than enough for me) seem like a great choice :D

Also to be able to replace parts in the future is fabulous. I think what bothers me the most is the small screen size. :P

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I hear ya, just one more option for you to be aware of :winking face:

Obviously, I am not speaking of gaming and other stuff, since I know you do not game. Sometimes dedicated GPU may be a serious advancement in terms of video editing and rendering on the fly (and yea, you can choose whatever card you want, not only that which is soldered, even the AMD one, which has better support for Linux in general). Obviosly it depends on if you're having big plans for more videos after TROM II :grinning face with smiling eyes: Otherwise, it might be enough to have the built-in card :winking face:

The screen sizes though, yeah.. I feel ya, might be a real gamechanger. Unfortunately, have no better recomendation except the external screen.

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Tio

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Yes external monitors are a solution since I am used to use one anyway. Dedicated GPUs are something I was not aware of and damn I love the idea. So all it needs is a thunderbolt 4? Couldn't they provide that as one of their expansion cards frame.work/de/en/marketplace/e… ?

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Tio

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Oh seems to work with framework community.frame.work/t/my-port… ... wow

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Roma

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Oh that's just amazing. Yeah, seems like this extension card has USB4 support at least: frame.work/de/en/products/usb-… and from the blogpost seems like Thunderbold controller is also present in the laptop. Awesome! :cool

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That's it then! I'll go for it haha :D - Need to tame myself. Tame tio, tame! Caaaalm. haha. Next year! Next year! Finish TROM 2, then buy it. Sell your laptop. Do it. Next year....

But yeah fantastic. I had no idea about egpus. That's super fucking cool. It means I can always connect to such a dedicated gpu in case I need to seriously work on some idk what .... 3D stuff or crazy video editing :D

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Exactly! Way more choice with the same device, I love it. And you can upgrade GPU anytime too..

Haha, when Tio gets excited, nobody can stop him :D Man, as soon as you're ready, I'll help you out as much as I can :winking face:

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haha

You are too nice my friend! :)

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Tio

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Oh and I love that I can get it cheaper because for example I do not have to buy any RAM. I have 32GB on my laptop and I can use those. It is fantastic that they let you not buy certain parts. Damn man I got busy with this hahahaha. Dreaming about this laptop. I think because I love the idea to be able to bloody replace parts and easily maintain a laptop. And to have it well built.

Anyway, I have to tame my excitement until after TROM 2 is released and if I have enough money then, I will buy it and sell my old laptop. For now I do not need it. TROM 2 needs to be done first :D

But for now I am a bit in love with the concept of the framwork laptop.

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Yup, the framework concept is a very beatiful Idea, this is how the devices should be designed without all that bullcrap about make it even more thin for no reason or in exchange of maintainability.. I wish they had more options to choose from though. Probably, they will come with more later.

Anyway, whatever you prefer, my friend :smiling face with smiling eyes:

All these projects offer way saner devices I ever had throughout my life. And yes, ACER, I speak about you bitch hahaha. I never forget I had to disassemble the entire laptop (even to take off a keyboard and touchpad) to simple replace a fuckin battery wtf?? :grinning squinting face:

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Yeah fuck those people who design these devices to make it difficult to service them. I hate that so much.

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TROMjaro 2022.11.03 (basic system updates) - forum.tromjaro.com/t/tromjaro-…

Nothing shocking, just updates :) . And from now on I will keep it in full sync with Manjaro's stable releases.

TROMjaro 2022.11.03 (basic system updates)

The usual Manjaro system updates. Plus one more change: we set up to check for updates every week instead of every few hours, and to use 6 parallel downloads: That’s all. The rest should work just fine.

^{TROMjaro Forum}

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2022-11-03 01:17:06

Carbon Capture, yet another "green washing" that won't help us at all - https://ytb.trom.tf/watch?v=nJslrTT-Yhc
When the trade based society we live in, makes us all want to trade like insane robots, then you can't fix anything unless you fix society. Period. And these "technological" solutions are a mere scapegoat for the best players of the game, who have no interest in changing the game. After all, they are having lots of fun.
So yeah....no, carbon capture is no more than a scam. #tromlive
Carbon Capture Isn't Real

Carbon Capture Isn't Real
Finally an invention that doesn't suck . . . CO2 out of the atmosphere. Ba-dumm tss. Check out my Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/adamsomething Join my Discord: https://discord.gg/2YcarWsc8S Second channel: https://www.youtube.
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If I were to buy a new laptop, where do I find one that is very well built and has most of the things on my list? Out of curiosity....

My list:
- fully metal, no plastic
- 17inch screen
- backlit keyboard
- very good CPU
- decent GPU (I prefer AMD)
- easy to take apart, change stuff, upgrade - if it takes me me more than 2 screws and 1 minute to replace the RAM or the Drive, it is not a good laptop
- FullHD screen (no less, no more)
- ok battery life, but I care more if I can easily replace it without any screws involved
- not super expensive

Not that I want to buy now, but maybe I'd like to in the future, and replace my plastic laptop that has a shitty Nvidia card (not working well on Linux).

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Hobson Lane

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framework meets all your specs except screen size frame.work i'm sure when you're ready to buy you'll find something online, perhaps even 2nd hand on eBay, craigslist, or offerup

Introducing the new and upgraded Framework Laptop

Framework Laptop: A thin, light, high-performance notebook that's upgradeable, repairable, and 100% yours. Order today with the latest configuration options.

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Yes in terms of build quality framework is great, but no dedicated gpu + only available in usa/canada i think + they are so expensive...but yeah the idea is great.

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#tromlive

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I wish the twitter dissidents would know about the fediverse and not just "mastodon". Mastodon is 1 little piece of a huge network, the fediverse. There are plenty of platforms to choose from. I personally recommend Friendica. Our instance social.trom.tf has a custom made theme and is pretty much working 24h without issues. It can even connect with Twitter and you can post on Twitter too, follow people from Twitter, reply, get notifications when someone comments on your tweets, and so forth.

Also, it works with any Mastodon apps....

So it is a great option/alternative to have.

Therefore, the Fediverse is a network of multiple services. Some are social networks (friendica, pleroma, hubzilla, mastodon, etc.), some video platforms (peertube), some photo sharing (pixelfed). You choose the platform then the instance (server) where you can create an account. Then you are all set. You can connect with anyone from any network and server.

Done.

Welcome!

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I forgot that Friendica actually allows users to connect with Twitter, I'm sure some people will find this very useful in the migration process.

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I was so impressed by that Fujitsu laptop that I convinced my parents to replace their shitty full-on plastic and hard-to-open and upgrade laptops with those Fujitsu ones. My father will have that 100 Euro model I was writing about. And my mother a similar model but with 8GB of RAM, 180 GB SSD and a core i5-4a. For 200 Euros. So almost double the power. In the same format. We should get it this week.

Basically my father's laptop has a core i3 processor with 2 cores and 4 threads. I upgraded it to 8GB of DDR3 (had 1 more stick at home). Plus used his SSD from the old laptop. All for 100 Euros, 1 year warranty, and a few spare parts from the old laptop. The laptop is half metal and seems quite solid. It is damn fast with TROMjaro and basically if you want to open tens and tens of tabs, watch any video file, listen to musi

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I was so impressed by that Fujitsu laptop that I convinced my parents to replace their shitty full-on plastic and hard-to-open and upgrade laptops with those Fujitsu ones. My father will have that 100 Euro model I was writing about. And my mother a similar model but with 8GB of RAM, 180 GB SSD and a core i5-4a. For 200 Euros. So almost double the power. In the same format. We should get it this week.

Basically my father's laptop has a core i3 processor with 2 cores and 4 threads. I upgraded it to 8GB of DDR3 (had 1 more stick at home). Plus used his SSD from the old laptop. All for 100 Euros, 1 year warranty, and a few spare parts from the old laptop. The laptop is half metal and seems quite solid. It is damn fast with TROMjaro and basically if you want to open tens and tens of tabs, watch any video file, listen to music, even do photo editing and some video editing, or play some old school games, this laptop is perfect. I mean my father basically visits some websites, listens to some music at times, watches some live TV, and plays Solitaire and the like. For him this laptop is fantastic. More than he needs.

My mother's laptop looks exactly the same (just a few color differences), but has 8GB of RAM and if I can upgrade I will to 12. I have some RAM sticks around from old laptops. Has an SSD, and core i5 with 2 cores and 4 threads. Better than the i3. On this laptop you can do all of the above and even play more recent and decent games, and for sure do video editing and all that. For her this is more than enough. All for 200 Euros plus 1 year warranty.

Overall, and so far, I love these laptops. Super easy to upgrade, fix, and clean. Took me some 10 minutes to access the Disk and RAMs from my father's old computer, but around 20 seconds for the new one. That's the difference. Not only they are easy to fix, repair, and upgrade or clean, but they are sturdy enough. Top lid and top part where the keyboard is are metal.

They are also very Linux friendly. Everything works out of the box. The screen is decent. No webcam tho. Perhaps that's better for privacy, they don't use webcams anyway.

Anyhow, I love these laptops for the package: good build quality, easy to deal with them, linux friendly, and cheap as hell. 300 Euros for 2 laptops + 1 year warranty is not at all bad,

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You can get a Panasonic Toughbook also, they are unbeatable and designed for last for life. I have a CF-31 which is a damn brick, but there are some thinner models like this one --> ebay.com/itm/185627421074 or this --> ebay.com/itm/325369396127

Panasonic Toughbook CF-C2 * CORE i5-4310U @ 2.00GHz / 8GB Ram / NO HDD | eBay

good used condition - i have a bunch of these so it will be similar to the one pictured - same specs, same condition - laptop only - MISSING HARD DRIVE - caddy is included - NO AC ADAPTER - boots to Bios

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Oh wow yeah that Panasonic Toughbook CF-C2 looks like a tank. Kinda bulky tho but I never head of this one. Is really interesting

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A very bad laptop design.

3 days ago I was writing about a laptop I bought for 100 Euros that impressed me. How well it was design making it so easy to upgrade and repair. This post social.trom.tf/display/dbc8dc4…

Well now I have an exact opposite example. A few years ago we bought a very cheap laptop for my father. 2 core processor (intel), 4GB of RAM, some 500 GB HDD. 200 Euros or so. And the build quality is awful. Plus the way you open it up....

For example you have to open the entire back plastic panel to access anything. The screws are black on a black panel, the plastic quality is terrible, and then you have to somehow know that this:

is not just a rubber thingy to make your laptop stand better on a desk...no no, it hides screws inside of it. So you have to unglue that.

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3 days ago I was writing about a laptop I bought for 100 Euros that impressed me. How well it was design making it so easy to upgrade and repair. This post social.trom.tf/display/dbc8dc4…

Well now I have an exact opposite example. A few years ago we bought a very cheap laptop for my father. 2 core processor (intel), 4GB of RAM, some 500 GB HDD. 200 Euros or so. And the build quality is awful. Plus the way you open it up....

For example you have to open the entire back plastic panel to access anything. The screws are black on a black panel, the plastic quality is terrible, and then you have to somehow know that this:

is not just a rubber thingy to make your laptop stand better on a desk...no no, it hides screws inside of it. So you have to unglue that.

What a terrible design. I remember some 2 years ago when I first opened it up to change the HDD with an SSD, I almost broke the plastic panel trying to take it apart because I was unaware there are screws underneath those. Terrible design!

Then how do I put those rubber legs back? Glue them back? Awful!

After you struggle to open it, you find this:

It is easy to change the drive and the RAMs. However only 1 slot for the RAM. WTF! I've never seen a laptop with only 1 slot for the RAM. This is terrible. I had another RAM stick of 4GB around and wanted to upgrade it to 8GB but guess what, there is nowhere to add another stick...

Actually this was the reason I opened it again tonight, to only find out about this stupid thing.

The worst part is that the hinges are metal screwed into the plastic case and because it is so difficult to open, I broke both hinges....the plastic they were screwed into broke completely. And trust me I opened many laptops this never happened to me before. But this build quality is complete shit.

This happened 2 years ago when I first opened it. And made it so difficult when I reopened it again because I was afraid I will completely destroy it....I tried to glue them but in vain. Basically you can still close the lid, but it is a shitstorm and it will break completely sooner than later.

All in all, it is a complete fuckery this laptop. Poorly made out of shitty plastic. Difficult to open up to the point where you will break it. You only have 1 RAM slot. Not worth it.

I found a newer version of the same Fujitsu laptop, same model. Double the hardware power. Core i5, 8GB of RAM, 180 GB SSD. Same ebay seller. 200 Euros with 1 year warranty. I will tell my parents to perhaps buy that one. And this laptop we can sell for 16 Euros or give it to someone who won't be able to do much with it...

Will see but this is the exact opposite example of my previous one.

A better made laptop for 100 Euros

A relative of ours who does not have much money, had an old computer. Then she had no more. It went kaboom. We thought to do a good deed an buy a laptop for ...

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Hidden screws under the rubber padding? WTF?! Its definately one of the worst designs I've ever seen.

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My plan for the next year.

My plan for the next year.

Release TROM II, have a wonderful TROM meeting in May, save as much money as possible + work to make some more and buy a motorhome. By October next year have the motorhome, some monthly income from WebApe (hopefully) and then go travel across Spain, Portugal, go to Norway see the Fjords and other parts of Europe :) . Basically see the nature side of it.

While doing that make more TROM books, more TROM-Casts, more videos, meet new orgs and projects, spread the word about "trade is the origin of most problems" and the antidote "trade-free".

If we manage to buy a motorhome and all works great with that, and if I manage to make WebApe a monthly income generator (or if we find other sources), then we can support ourselves and TROM for a long time. Maybe we can get enough financial support from donations for TROM...that'd be amazing but idk...

After that I'd like for us to go to Hawaii for a bit, because I'd love to see that place, then USA and buy a motorhome there (sell the old one) and travel across USA and see the national parks.

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Rokosun

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Have fun! 😃
@aaron

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yes it was great to visit them! :)

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Nice plan! I wish you good luck, and hope that you will succeed ! Go out and see the world!

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Fuck you Firefox with your promotional BS part of the browser updates...now they advertise even more aggressively their VPN and the "new" firefox view that puts another tab on all of my opened Firefox Windows, pinned, and does not allow me to close it like I close all other Firefox tabs. Only to remove from the toolbar...

I will eventually switch TROMjaro to use Librewolf, when I'll have more time....am tired of Firefox's BS.

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A better made laptop for 100 Euros

A relative of ours who does not have much money, had an old computer. Then she had no more. It went kaboom. We thought to do a good deed an buy a laptop for her. A cheap one. So I found one on ebay, for 100 Euros. Second hand. Yeah, 100 Euros. Fujitsu Lifebook E734 i3-4a. 4GB of RAM, 320GB HDD. Intel Graphics card. From 2014.

It is a bit scratched on the top lid, but other than that looks really good. Top lid made out of some metal, same as the top part where the keyboard is:

So I want to say a few things. First, the build aspect of it impressed me!

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A relative of ours who does not have much money, had an old computer. Then she had no more. It went kaboom. We thought to do a good deed an buy a laptop for her. A cheap one. So I found one on ebay, for 100 Euros. Second hand. Yeah, 100 Euros. Fujitsu Lifebook E734 i3-4a. 4GB of RAM, 320GB HDD. Intel Graphics card. From 2014.

It is a bit scratched on the top lid, but other than that looks really good. Top lid made out of some metal, same as the top part where the keyboard is:

So I want to say a few things. First, the build aspect of it impressed me!

It is meant to be repaired and upgraded, at least mostly. From the bottom you can easily access the Drive, RAM, and the DVDroom (whoever still uses those). Just 1 screw holding them in place. So easy to deal with those.

The best part:

You can take the dust filter out, no screws needed, from the back of the laptop. In a second. Clean it, and put it back. This is the best feature (hardware) wise that I've seen for a laptop so far. I need to open up my entire laptop to clean it once a month, else it starts to overheat and does not work well at all. Imagine if I could simply take the filter out and clean! How in the world are not all laptops equipped with this!?

I love that thing so much!

Now, when it came, only had 1 issue. When the fan kicked in, it made a very loud noise and made the laptop vibrate....was quite bad. The best part is that I managed to open it up in a few minutes by unscrewing just some 10 screws. It was very easy to open this laptop up and that I loved. I quickly accessed the fan and cleaned it inside. I had to add some special oil to make it run smoothly. This is a very old fan so this may happen. That fixed it.

I of course nuked Windows and installed TROMjaro. Everything worked!

Bluetooth, wifi, keyboard keys, function keys....all! Runs so smooth and fast. The processor is more than enough for most uses for most people. The RAM is fine, depends how many websites you have opened in tabbed windows, but you can cheaply and easily upgrade that.

Overall for 100 Euros you can get a great laptop second hand. Well built, not that bulky at all, and useful for most people.

I also love how easily I could switch the TROMjaro layout into a Windows-like, something this person may be more familiar with. Lovely!

Point is, we should re-use. Second, I have seen several laptops over these past decade and this one is the best designed so far in terms of how easy they made it to repair and upgrade. All laptops should be like that. This is 8 years old but looks 20 years ahead in terms of the thinking that went into designing it for repair and upgrade.

EDIT: I forgot to mention that I also got a 1 year warranty for this laptop. Not bad at all for 100 Euros.

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the E736 is still my main machine at work :D

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I forgot to mention that I also got a 1 year warranty for this laptop. Not bad at all for 100 Euros.

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The current state of TROM II documentary in terms of files used :)

The project itself, where most (not all) of the files reside is 1.9TB. The proxy clips for the documentary almost 1TB. Insane!

The documentary is already around 3 and a half hours long. But 2 or so more hours need to be made....I am running low on storage space. But will manage it somehow.

This must be the longest (biggest) video project ever made in @Kdenlive , right? :)

After I will release the documentary I will share it with the KDE team maybe they wanna showcase it as an example of how you can create a massive documentary all in Kdenlive. So far I love Kdenlive. It has been very stable for me.

These days I will take a bit of a break because I need to jump into a new section of the 3rd part and need to think about how to approach it. Also, @Aaron comes and visits for a few days and I want to spend some quality time with this wonderful being :) .

@Aaron

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18 minutes from the 3rd part of the TROM II documentary, done! The work is faster than I first thought. I worked today a lot on color correction....I usually do not bother with these but I had to do it better for TROM II since when we filmed the interviews we did not do a great job at dealing with the lights and camera settings.... But now looks great in my view.

The next bit, how I approach it, will be defining for the rest of the 3rd part....so let's see.... #tromlive

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Hi Russia! So this guy needs to be poisoned and jailed because he wants to challenge the people in power? To expose their corrupted behaviors!?

Hi Saudi Arabia! So you had to kill this guy because he was criticizing your government?

Hi USA...and UK....so you had to inprison and abuse this guy for exposing your military abuse?

Hm....here I am listening to all of these tribes saying how they care about free speech and human rights and all that shit, while they do the opposite....funny ha!?

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Yep. 99% of countries suck in some terrible way or another and should fix their own house before lecturing others.

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